hey there, ive posted my diet and other things on here before and have been following it fairly well for around 2 weeks, however after buying some ketostix today and testing negative for ketosis, i was wondering if i had either been doing something wrong, or how long it should take for the ketones to be produced, by the way im on a TKD and trying a ketogenic diet for the first time.
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Thread: How Long till Ketosis?
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03-23-2006, 03:51 PM #1Pure Persian Power
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How Long till Ketosis?
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03-23-2006, 04:06 PM #2Registered User
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How much water are you drinking. If I drink alot of water I show up as negative. Have you noticed the other signs? Smelly wee, bad breath.
Whats your diet?I am going to keep on training until my back has grown a back of its own.
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03-24-2006, 06:06 AM #3Registered User
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When did you test?
It could be a million variables (well obviously not literally)!
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03-26-2006, 10:35 AM #4Registered User
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Can you post your diet again.. or a link to it?
As Chimp said - there could be a 'million' variables... typically you should be able to hit ketosis within 5 days or sometimes a little longer depending on where it's your first go or not. Also depending on your activity level - ketosis can happen sooner or later... the more activity the sooner.
or.. you may in fact be in ketosis and you just don't know it...
I'm guessing the perhaps it's got to do on when you're having your carbs and how many with regard to your workouts. I'm not the most knowledgable on TKD so... again it's a guess...Last edited by Keywil; 03-26-2006 at 10:44 AM.
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03-28-2006, 01:58 PM #5Pure Persian Power
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Sorry i didnt post for a while, heres my diet
Meal 1: 2 boiled eggs,
Meal 2: Half cup (50g) of peanuts or mixed nuts
Meal 3: 100g Chicken Breast, lettuce, mayo.
Meal 4 (Post-WO): Steak, Green Beans and Spinach, Protein Scoop.
Meal 5: 4 Tablespoons Cottage Cheese
Total Calories - 1900, (maintenance calories = 2600)
Unfortunately I had to cut out my 4th meal
, usually have a can of tuna with meal 5 instead now.
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03-28-2006, 02:21 PM #6Banned
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Eh, not enough fats me thinks.
What do your macro ratios look like? P/F/C?
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03-28-2006, 02:34 PM #7Pure Persian Power
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i have no idea wot my macro ratios look like, im estimating around 60% protein, 35% fats, 5% carbs, yeh i need to increase the amount of fat in my diet, do you know any good sources of fat for keto?
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03-28-2006, 02:35 PM #8Registered User
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You might have too much protein, and your liver is converting it to glucose. Some people are sensetive to that.
But, as you're TKD'ing, it's more likely the pre/workout carbs (which I assume isn't on your meal list). Cut them back, or do a couple workouts without them completely. You'll probably find yourself in ketosis then.
Oh, good fat sources:
Peanut Oil
Flax Oil
Coconut Oil
Butter
Lard
etc.Teenaged Supplement Addict. No plans on quitting.
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03-28-2006, 02:40 PM #9Pure Persian Power
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yeh i did used to eat carbs before a work out, but ive stopped that now, only stopped it for around a week tho, thanks for the recommended fats, im gonna probably add bacon and cheese to my breakfast too. You see, i eat a lot of leafy vegetables and was hoping that should provide just enough carbs for my 45 minutes of weights and 20 minutes of cardio.
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03-29-2006, 10:47 AM #10Registered User
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You might get rid of the peanuts and replace them with a handful of almonds.
More fat, less protein...
Flax oil is a good source of healthy fat.
You calories macros should be more like 65% from f/30% from p/5% from c ...
You might also look at www.fitday.com to establish your macros.Last edited by Keywil; 03-29-2006 at 10:55 AM.
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03-29-2006, 12:21 PM #11Registered User
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I can't remember if you had a reason for not using the standard PWO shake, do you?
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02-27-2019, 05:20 AM #12Registered User
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too much protein
You are eating too much protein and carb. Green beans are higher in carbs and so is cottage cheese and peanuts. You aren't eating enough fat. Your diet is too lean. Try upping your fats and reducing your proteins.Originally Posted by -E-
Sorry i didnt post for a while, heres my diet
Meal 1: 2 boiled eggs,
Meal 2: Half cup (50g) of peanuts or mixed nuts
Meal 3: 100g Chicken Breast, lettuce, mayo.
Meal 4 (Post-WO): Steak, Green Beans and Spinach, Protein Scoop.
Meal 5: 4 Tablespoons Cottage Cheese
Total Calories - 1900, (maintenance calories = 2600)
Unfortunately I had to cut out my 4th meal, usually have a can of tuna with meal 5 instead now.
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02-27-2019, 12:10 PM #13Registered User
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Problem is most likely how you are testing. Gluconeogenesis will not take you out of ketosis.
Are you pissing on the stick or are you peeing into a clean container and dipping the strip.
You need to piss into something and dip the strip into it.
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03-09-2019, 12:36 PM #14Registered User
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It took me 2 weeks to actually feel better (and get bad breath).
, usually have a can of tuna with meal 5 instead now.
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