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    fish oil vs. flaxseed oil?

    which one is better to take?

    also, i have bought Target brand fish oil caps, is this a reliable brand?
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    i take both. barlean's flax oil. it is more expensive than a lot i've seen on the market, but it is potent. as far as the fish oil caps, go for it.
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    Originally Posted by rickley
    which one is better to take?

    also, i have bought Target brand fish oil caps, is this a reliable brand?
    Fish Oil Caps are more beneficial, Here is study on the two
    http://www.flaxcouncil.ca/FlaxPrimer_Chptr12.pdf

    As for target brand, it dont really matter. Just aim for 1 gram of DHA and EPA.
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    It does matter if you're concerned about mercury and other toxins. You want fish oil that has been molecularly distilled. If you can't see this somewhere on the bottle, then it's a good idea to avoid that product.

    Fish oil is overall more beneficial than flax oil. There's nothing wrong with incorporating both, but if you have to pick just one I'd advise that it be fish oil since flax does not contain EPA or DHA, two very important fatty acids.
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    Go with the Fish oil if you have to choice one of the two.
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    Originally Posted by Glaive
    It does matter if you're concerned about mercury and other toxins. You want fish oil that has been molecularly distilled. If you can't see this somewhere on the bottle, then it's a good idea to avoid that product.

    Fish oil is overall more beneficial than flax oil. There's nothing wrong with incorporating both, but if you have to pick just one I'd advise that it be fish oil since flax does not contain EPA or DHA, two very important fatty acids.
    On the bottle it says, "Laboratory tested to meet strict quality control standards for potency, purity and disintegration."
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    Originally Posted by Glaive
    Fish oil is overall more beneficial than flax oil. There's nothing wrong with incorporating both, but if you have to pick just one I'd advise that it be fish oil since flax does not contain EPA or DHA, two very important fatty acids.
    Agreed. The conversion of the ALA to EPA and DHA is very poor (a few studies if you are interested [1,2]) and can be further skewed by things as simple as caffeine intake. So taking EPA/DHA directly from fish oil would be your best bet if choosing between the two.

    I personally just use the USP certified fish oils from Costco as they are cheap and I am a cheapskate .

    1. Burdge GC, Jones AE, Wootton SA. Eicosapentaenoic and docosapentaenoic acids are the principal products of alpha-linolenic acid metabolism in young men. Br J Nutr. 2002;88(4):355-364.
    2. Burdge GC, Wootton SA. Conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to eicosapentaenoic, docosapentaenoic and docosahexaenoic acids in young women. Br J Nutr. 2002;88(4):411-420
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    I think fish oil is better, but if you wanted to you could take both.
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    whats the big deal with fish or flackseed oil?? can soemone please give me the lowdown..
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    Originally Posted by rickley
    which one is better to take?

    also, i have bought Target brand fish oil caps, is this a reliable brand?
    In my opinion they both work hand in hand. Fish oil has a vast range of health benefits, along with flaxseed. I would take both.
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    Maybe health wise it makes a difference but as far as physique wise (building muscle/burning fat) there is virtually no difference between flax & fish oil.
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    Why I dont like Flax seed

    FLAX LIGNANS, LinumLife™ is a flax hull concentrate that contains 10 times more lignans than flaxseed or any other flax product. One gram contains 50mg lignans, the normal amount recommended per day. Lignans are phytoestrogens that act as buffers for stronger estrogens such as estridiol, block conversion of testosterone to DHT, and may decrease free testosterone by increasing globulin bonding. Obviously, this is a double edged sword. Although consumption of plant lignans is related to improved breast, prostate, menopausal, heart, and colon health, and a recent study reported improvement in hair loss in 9 of 10 male subjects; just as with soy, those trying to raise testosterone levels or promote growth should use sparingly. LinumLife™ contains some fiber and omega 3 oil, and has one year shelf-life if kept cool & tight. Slightly sweet taste.
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    Originally Posted by young_squatter
    Why flax seed sucks

    I definately wouldn't say it sucks. Many bodybuilders have been using flax oil for years succesfully.
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    Originally Posted by naturalguy
    I definately wouldn't say it sucks. Many bodybuilders have been using flax oil for years succesfully.
    I agree, I just looked up that study and posted it. I would opt for fish oil because it is overall better.
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    I definately wouldn't say it sucks. Many bodybuilders have been using flax oil for years succesfully.

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    Fish oil is not the holy grail of health perfection that many have been marketed to believe. I wouldn't necessarily hype it over flax.

    Although ALA from flax oil has poor conversion to EPA/DHA, flax still has multiple health benefits:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/69/3/395#top

    On the downside of fish oil, EPA has been observed to decrease natural killer cell (NK) activity in elderly subjects, which has negative immune implications. ALA from flax was not seen to have any decreasing effect on NK:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/73/3/539#top

    Here's some negative immune potential from DHA suppressing T-lymphocyte activation:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/79/4/674#top

    More negative effects on immune response.. EPA suppresses prostaglandin-E2 in young subjects, and decreases neutrophil respiratory activity in older subjects:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

    Despite potential negatives, having both flaxseed & fish oil in your diet is probably a good idea, in moderate amounts. If not exceeding target fat grams is an issue, these need not be taken on the same days. Rotational dosing through the week is fine; our bodies don't work on a 24-hr clock.
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    I would take both. Cover all your bases. Fish is what has those toxins. The oil usually does not, thanks to lab cleansings. Flax seeds are real good for you too. I take both flax seeds and flax oil, in my shakes, cereal or salads. Combine with other nuts and you are covered with alot of nutrition your body may be lacking. But yes, fish oil is the dominant one.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon
    Fish oil is not the holy grail of health perfection that many have been marketed to believe. I wouldn't necessarily hype it over flax.

    Although ALA from flax oil has poor conversion to EPA/DHA, flax still has multiple health benefits:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/69/3/395#top

    On the downside of fish oil, EPA has been observed to decrease natural killer cell (NK) activity in elderly subjects, which has negative immune implications. ALA from flax was not seen to have any decreasing effect on NK:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/73/3/539#top

    Here's some negative immune potential from DHA suppressing T-lymphocyte activation:

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/79/4/674#top

    More negative effects on immune response.. EPA suppresses prostaglandin-E2 in young subjects, and decreases neutrophil respiratory activity in older subjects:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

    Despite potential negatives, having both flaxseed & fish oil in your diet is probably a good idea, in moderate amounts. If not exceeding target fat grams is an issue, these need not be taken on the same days. Rotational dosing through the week is fine; our bodies don't work on a 24-hr clock.

    How much flax would be considered 'reasonable' (per day)? I just purchased some last night with my gnc gift card, and each serving contains 14 grams of fat. I only plan on taking it once per day, and it's sole purpose in my diet is to take with my first dose of sesamin in the morning.
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    I will hopefully be purchasing some flaxseed oil or fish oil..depending..but the main source I will be taking it for is my joints as I have heard it helps tremendously with joint pain due to lifting. I heard the flaxseed oil is supposed to help with the joints, but will fish oil do the same? After hearing the research and experiences on here, I will probably take both but will fish oil actually help in joint discomfort?

    Also, is liquid or soft gel caps better? What about a complete EFA, or perhaps take EFA's additionally on top of the flaxseed/fish oils?
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