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    Might be a little after the fact, but quality combination support supplements would have sold like hot cakes. I'm talking about supplements like AX perfect cycle, but on a larger scale. A all-in-one whole body support with:

    Hawthorne berry
    RYR
    CoQ10
    Picanisol
    Milkthistle
    NAC
    R-ALA
    Saw Palmetto
    Niacin
    Quercetin
    and maybe even Taurine
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    Originally Posted by SNS8778
    Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

    Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.
    agree on the taurine

    i would love rholoida, i know there is already some in the store but i would like it more from a company i trust. i also think that having a rholoida/bacopa monniera supp would be amazing. i dont think any compay has just those 2 together alone as a supp.

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    maca/longjack/trib-maybe add some muira puama and/or zinc to it and right there is a great test booster....def leave out Avena Sativa. add some thing like nac or angus cactus for a lil anti-oxidant. shouldnt be too expensive to make and it would be a great, fairly simple straightforward test booster. im not so sure about the doses for all of em but i would guess

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    maca-100mg
    tribulus-550mg
    longjack/tongkat-500mg-1g
    zinc- 40mg
    muira puama-400mg

    Anti-Oxidant
    nac-200mg
    angus cacti-?

    obviously all of this doesnt need to be included but w/e man im bored.
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    For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.
    i would suggest 50mg, so that way someone could have a small dosage or bump it up to 100 or 150 for more pronounced effects. PEA only lasts around 2.5 hours, unless you add in an MAOI-B inhibitor such as l-deprenyl. for me the short effect is not a problem.
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    Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.
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    Originally Posted by peepingyoda
    Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.
    personally, i would like the opposite. most stims i've used last 5-8 hours, and stim X will last 16-18 hours. i'd like a stim that last for 2-3 so that you can take it at night to help you study but still be able to sleep
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    Originally Posted by peepingyoda
    Here's another money maker... Time Released Stimulants. I always wondered why more companies don't time release stuff that has a short half-life.
    Maybe because properly done time released pharmacotechnical forms are a pain in the ass to do properly.
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    Originally Posted by Bane
    Maybe because properly done time released pharmacotechnical forms are a pain in the ass to do properly.
    Figured that was the case Good to know.
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    Just wanted to bump this to hopefully hear some suggestions from the evening crowd.

    Thanks to everyone that has contributed.

    BTW...numebertwentytwo .... I liked the rhodiola/bacopa suggestions.
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    Straight K-R-ALA
    Straight Citrulline Malate
    Straight D-Ribose
    Straight ATP (In bioavailable form )
    Straight Orotic Acid
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    Originally Posted by SNS8778
    Just wanted to bump this to hopefully hear some suggestions from the evening crowd.

    Thanks to everyone that has contributed.

    BTW...numebertwentytwo .... I liked the rhodiola/bacopa suggestions.
    thanks...id like 10% of profits jp

    but really itd be nice to use either alone and/or also stacked w other supps
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    Buuuuuuuuuummmmmpppp!!!

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    Straight K-R-ALA
    Straight Citrulline Malate
    Straight D-Ribose
    Straight ATP (In bioavailable form )
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    I like it!
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    I think a natural testosterone booster with Propionyl-l-carnitine(1 gram), Urtica Dioica(50mg), Bacopa Monnieri (20:1) 50 mg, Rhodiola (standardized for 3% rosavin) 175 mg and whatever Test Booster people are liking now days!

    My reasoning for these choices:

    Propionyl-L-Carnitine for more fat transport, greater blood flow to exercising muscles, higher testosterone levels, increased testosterone receptor activity, and lower cortisol.

    Urtica Dioca to help prevent testosterone conversion to DHT, keep testosterone free from SHGB, SHGB may interfere with testosterone from binding to its receptors.

    Bacopa Monnier for its adaptogen purposes. Can have a positive effect on cortisol levels due to its anxiolytic properties.

    Rhodiol for its effects on preventing mental fatique and increasing workforce capacity.

    Mind you I dont source raws so I dont know what it would cost to mabufacture this, but I will be making my own cocktail with this combo in the very near future.
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    Originally Posted by bigswole30
    I think a natural testosterone booster with Propionyl-l-carnitine(1 gram), Urtica Dioica(50mg), Bacopa Monnieri (20:1) 50 mg, Rhodiola (standardized for 3% rosavin) 175 mg and whatever Test Booster people are liking now days!

    My reasoning for these choices:

    Propionyl-L-Carnitine for more fat transport, greater blood flow to exercising muscles, higher testosterone levels, increased testosterone receptor activity, and lower cortisol.

    Urtica Dioca to help prevent testosterone conversion to DHT, keep testosterone free from SHGB, SHGB may interfere with testosterone from binding to its receptors.

    Bacopa Monnier for its adaptogen purposes. Can have a positive effect on cortisol levels due to its anxiolytic properties.

    Rhodiol for its effects on preventing mental fatique and increasing workforce capacity.

    Mind you I dont source raws so I dont know what it would cost to mabufacture this, but I will be making my own cocktail with this combo in the very near future.
    none of those ing. really do a good job at raising test levels tho.
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    Originally Posted by NumberTwentyTwo
    none of those ing. really do a good job at raising test levels tho.
    I think you missed the first part of my post. I listed things I think would compliment a natural TEST booster. People are raving about this saponin, this herb, etc..........That is why I said along "WITH" whatever natural "TEST" booster people are liking these days. I listed ingredients "I" feel would make it work better. I know what I would use but another company is already using it and out of respect I did not mention as to not appear to look like I am reccomending stealing their formula
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    This one would be nice to see. Propionyl-L-Carnitine
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    Originally Posted by SNS8778
    I like the concept above. If anyone has more input, Im all ears.

    Also, I know someone who's going to give me hell at the tumeric suggestion lol.

    You mean you like the tumeric idea or the Natural Anit-Estrogen one?

    Ive been trying to find naturall anti-es that I could run for a long period of time, also could be used in PCT, then runn after one stops nolva or ATD jsut to keep levels in check after pct is over, or a natty stack, but havent really found a good affordable product.

    I guess Ill have to stick to broccli every day until I find one.
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    Originally Posted by Carmen0857
    You mean you like the tumeric idea or the Natural Anit-Estrogen one?

    Ive been trying to find naturall anti-es that I could run for a long period of time, also could be used in PCT, then runn after one stops nolva or ATD jsut to keep levels in check after pct is over, or a natty stack, but havent really found a good affordable product.

    I guess Ill have to stick to broccli every day until I find one.
    Meant that I liked the natural anti-e idea. Im definately open to hearing input and suggestions on it or any other ideas.

    Also, interested to see how many people would like a good tumeric product.
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    Originally Posted by SNS8778
    Meant that I liked the natural anti-e idea. Im definately open to hearing input and suggestions on it or any other ideas.

    Also, interested to see how many people would like a good tumeric product.

    Actually now that I think about it I beleive Tumeric has some Anti-E proprties, or atleast I know Ive read it may provide releif for symptoms of gyno.
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    Originally Posted by Carmen0857
    Actually now that I think about it I beleive Tumeric has some Anti-E proprties, or atleast I know Ive read it may provide releif for symptoms of gyno.
    Yes it does. It has many health benefits and unfortunatly doesn't get much attention. I'll be using as part of my upcoming cycle.
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    maybe a nootropic or sumtin for that non alcoholic buzz.
    that's why i suggested PEA. in normal doses it can be a good mood enhancer but in higher doses it can be fun
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    a REAL tongat ali/longjack mixture, not the fake crap sold by most of the supplement companies

    click the link below to see what I'm talking about....if you guys made an actual effectively dosed capsule of the right quality I'd be all over it

    http://www.tongkatali.org/extractprocedure.htm

    thats for the peeps suggesting test boosters with longjack ITS GOTTA BE QUALITY OR ITS WORTHLESS!!!
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    where's the bulk CM?



    *waiting*
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    I'd like to see stinging nettle. I've heard interesting stuff about it reducing the amount of SHBG in the blood.
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    Originally Posted by Mr. Aries
    where's the bulk CM?



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    Get in line, panty model!

    I asked for it too!
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    where's the bulk CM?



    *waiting*
    Hell I know where to get bulk CM...
    Panthers/Tar Heels/Hurricanes/Durham Bulls
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