SNS wants your opinion

[G.W. Hayduke]

I'm intrigued by the alpha GPC. Steve desperately wanted to put it in Focus XT but the cost was too high. As a stand-alone...? Hmmm.

Also, Focus contains ALCAR--not in nancy boy 200mg doses, either --and caffeine, and CVM Xtreme already contains glucuronolactone so that would be a lot of overlap.

I'm glad you saw through his hair-brained idea...

But alpha-GPC in caps may be a good idea. But for some, the cost might outweigh the benefit. And the guy Quelly is on to something with the tongkat ali I think. On that site they mention this herb as being the tongkat ali for women: http://www.tongkatali.org/kacipfatima.htm
I know a lot of guys would buy that for their women.

[Skigazzi]

I'm glad you saw through his hair-brained idea... .

HEEEEY!!!!

I still like that idea, its a good one two preworkout plan...maybe I'll just have to start my own company and get board reps of my own

[G.W. Hayduke]

HEEEEY!!!!

I still like that idea, its a good one two preworkout plan...maybe I'll just have to start my own company and get board reps of my own

Well, you definitely had the right ingredients, the dosages were just off a bit.

BTW, I do believe that the 'racetams require a "loading" period and need to be taken everyday. Could be a good way to get people to have to take the prod all the time... but I donno. That would be better off in its own cap with some choline.

[Carmen0857]

Id like to see some natural Anti estrogens.

DIM (biodim)
restervol


Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

[cakedonkey]

I also think capped (or bulk powder) citrulline malate would be an excellent addition to your line-up.

[TooMuchTooMuch]

I agree. Get ahead of the curve with a bulk CM product.

And how about improving your creatine. Why not make it 880% better than creatine like other companies? (kidding, of course).

[dtrain13]

ttt

[xJonathanx]

Antioxidant caps, like a wide variety of full-dosed antioxidants.

Bump

[uhockey]

Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

BringNit hates that stuff. Dunno why.

[SNS8778]

An energy drink formulated to mix with hard liquour.

The problem then would be that we wouldnt get anything done around the office lol. Imagine having access to thousands of them. Not good for productivity lol.

[SNS8778]

I'd like to see SNS bring out pure phenibut, l-tyrosine-akg, and phenylethylamine.

For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.

[391rippy]

Simple enough. While we are working on more complex projects, we were thinking about the idea of releasing several single ingredient capsule or powdered products. We'd like to get your opinion as a consumer on what you'd like to see. The more opinions the better.

Thanks.

hmmm...the only singe-ingredient cap or powder that i would like to see that isn't already done by BN or *** would be PEA hcl

[SNS8778]

Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.

[TE]

Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.

I'd like unflavored powder. Plan on adding it to flavored bcaa's, UNLESS you can make the flavoring strong enough to overpower plain bulk bcaa's.

[cxm]

Many people seem to like the idea of CM. Everyone let me know - if u had your option, would you rather have bulk powder (unflvored), bulk powder (flavored), or caps (750 mg might be the most that could fit per cap).

Let me know your thoughts.

Bulk unflavored is fine, it's not bad tasting just sour. Capping will raise the price too much, as it is, it's not a cheap supplement.

[NumberTwentyTwo]

after seeing some suggestions, which ones do the SNS team like??

after i see what you guys like id like to add some of my own

[SNS8778]

Skigazzi - aniracetam is an ingredient I doubt we could use.

I liked the comcept that you were going with, but I think that might go against our Focus XT, which contains ALCAR and Caffeine along with alot of other ingredients - link:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sns/focus.html

Ingredients per serving:
Focus XT Blend 9800mg
- Choline Bitartrate
- L-Tyrosine
- Acetyl-L-Carnitine
- DMAE
- Vinpocetine
- Huperzine A

Caffeine: 200 mg.
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CVM Xtreme already has 1000 mg of glucuronalactone in it per serving.

- 50 servings per container
CVM (Cell Volumizing Matrix Blend)
DiCreatine Malate: 3 g
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate: 2 g
Betaine Anhydrous: 2 g
Taurine: 2 g
2:1 DiArginine Malate: 1.5 g
Glucuronalactone: 1 g
Glycocymine: 500 mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine): 100 mg (5000% DV)
Vitamin B3 (Niacin): 50 mg (250% DV)
Folic Acid: 200 mcg (50% DV)
Vitamin B12: 125 mcg (42% DV)
__________________________________________________ _

Also, how many people would be interested in glucuronalactone caps? They would either be 750 or 1000 mg, most likely 750 mg is what would fit. Let me know.

__________________________________________________ __

As Bringnit said, I wanted to use Alpha GPC in with Focus XT but it would have raised the price too much. If anyone is interested in Alph GPC as a stand alone, let us know.

[SNS8778]

Id like to see some natural Anti estrogens.

DIM (biodim)
restervol


Also curcumin (tumeric) seems to have many benefits for a bodybuilding lifestyle

I like the concept above. If anyone has more input, Im all ears.

Also, I know someone who's going to give me hell at the tumeric suggestion lol.

[SNS8778]

after seeing some suggestions, which ones do the SNS team like??

after i see what you guys like id like to add some of my own

Still havent picked favorites, just trying to collect some ideas. Please let me know your thoughts, all input is appreciated.

[dtrain13]

BringNit hates that stuff. Dunno why.

Don't know either.......

[Lax891122]

Capped CM would be hard to take in high doses like some people recommend(6-10 g pre W/O= about 12-20 caps if each= 1/2 gram). Throw a packet of splenda in per every 2-3 grams if you dont like the sour taste. It kinda turns out into a flat sprite/ faygo lemon-lime taste.. only sad thing is that most people dont remember what pop tastes like.

[NumberTwentyTwo]

Still havent picked favorites, just trying to collect some ideas. Please let me know your thoughts, all input is appreciated.

-bulk citrulline malate
-panax ginseng
-taurine
-maca/longjack/tongkat mix
-rhodiola <------definately

[Bane]

For the phenylethylamine, any dosage thoughts? If I am not mistaken (and I could be wrong), it doesnt last very long in the system, so you would either have to take small doses frequently or do something time released - or am I off base.

Aye

[SNS8778]

If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

[NumberTwentyTwo]

If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

400-500g

6g a day is recommended but higher doses are the best

so 10g a day....400g would last 40 days

[SNS8778]

-bulk citrulline malate
-panax ginseng
-taurine
-maca/longjack/tongkat mix
-rhodiola <------definately

Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.

[TE]

If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

500g.

[Bane]

Taurine is so inexpensive and readily accessible, but I could look into it.

Like to hear more thoughts on the Rhodiola and the mix you listed above - either dosing thoughts or just whether more people would be interested.

I have a better idea for you:
Take 5-10 grams pharmaceutical grade Glycerine,dirt cheap and with a nice sweet taste
Throw in Taurine
Add 2 grams Nacl, 1 gram KCl, some magnesium citrate
Put it in seperate plastic baggies with some decent flavorings, to be dissolved in water. Voila, you have something more effective than Glycer-Glow at aleast half price

[cxm]

If we were to do CM powder, what size would everyone vote on? I really want peoples opinions on this.

500 grams

At 6 grams for the minimum this would last 83 days

At 10 grams a day, this would last 50 days

I think 6 grams a day is good enough for people using other supplements for endurance and energy

10 grams a day would be optimal if it's the only supplement being used for endurance and energy to gauge it's efectivness.

[Lax891122]

500 grams

At 6 grams for the minimum this would last 83 days

At 10 grams a day, this would last 50 days

I think 6 grams a day is good enough for people using other supplements for endurance and energy

10 grams a day would be optimal if it's the only supplement being used for endurance and energy to gauge it's efectivness.

Agreed. If you wanted to make it in a smaller container and a big one id go with 200 and 500.