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    Back Workout Today

    Hammer Chins - BWx17
    Wide Grip Chins - BW x10,10,10
    T Bar Rows - 180x6,6,6
    V Bar Rows - 17plates x7,7, 15plates x 10 (damned weak grip is limiting my lifts here)

    Alt DB Curls - 50x8,8,8
    Hammer DB Curls - 50x10,55x8,60x8
    Camber Bar Cable Curls - 10plates x 10,10,10

    Eliptical 20 min. medium/high intensity


    Diet
    M1 - 2/3c Oats and Honey Cereal, 1/2c FF milk, 2 scoops whey
    M2 - 2 scoops Muscle Milk
    M3 - taco salad with no shell
    M4 - 1/2c cup oats, 3 strawberries, 1/2 cup FF milk
    M5 - 3 scoops whey (Pre/during/post workout)
    M6 - Chicken, brown rice, brocolli dish (also has small amount of cream of chicken soup)
    M7 - 2 scoops Muscle Milk

    Thoughts
    Workout went well today. Nothing new to report on the stack. Overall a very average day.
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    Two Week Update

    Weight - 179lb(-6lb)
    Bicep - 16.125"(-.125")
    Chest - 43.5"
    Thigh - 25"
    Waist - 34.375" (-.125")
    Stomach - 34.875" (-.375")

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    Pectoral - 5,5,5
    Abdominal - 18,19,19
    Thigh - 15,15,15

    BF% - 11.49% (1.5%)

    I have not seen any change in measurements to speak of other than my arm being a little smaller, but caliper measurments definately dropped down. I dont really understand this but it is what I am seeing.
    I attached some pics, but there is no real change noticable. I hate the way my camera flash makes me look flat as a piece of paper. I took a couple with no flash, and you can better see definition, but they still suck and got grainy for some reason. I put up a couple for comparison. It may just be me, but I think the double bi flash/no flash look completely different. I look leaner in the no flash pic I think.
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    Comparison of flash/no flash back.
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    Legs Today

    Squats - 135x15, 225x8,8,8
    Leg Press - 600x8,8,8
    SLDL - 225x10, 245x10,10

    Seated Calf Raise - 225x15,10,10
    Standing Calf Raise - 225x20,275x18, 315x18

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    M1 - 2/3c oats, 2 strawberries, 2 scoops whey, 1/2c FF milk
    M2 - 2 scoops Muscle Milk
    M3 - ~5oz lean ground beef, 2 slice Whole Wheat Bread, sprinkle cheddar, 1tspn Light Miracle Whip
    M4 - 3 scoops whey(pre/during workout)
    M5 - 2 scoops Muscle Milk

    Next meals not yet planned, but will be clean.

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    Not much to report. Knees are getting better and I am working back up on weight. Stack is going great with no sides at all right now.
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    Sorry I have not been able to update the last couple days. I was on the road working and could not get the wireless in my hotel to work. I did a chest workout on Monday, and it was pretty bad actually. I did not get alot of sleep the previous night and it hury my workout pretty bad on strength, but I got through it.

    Back Workout Today

    Lat Pulls - 12plate x 12, 14plate x8,8
    T Bar Rows - 180x6,6,6
    V Bar Rows - 15plates x10, 16plates x 10, 17plates x8

    Straight Bar Curls - 95x8,8,8
    Hammer DB Curls - 50x10,10,10

    Bike - 5min. low intensity
    Eliptical 20 min. medium intensity


    Thoughts
    Workout went well today and my strength was good. I was still a little tired because sleep was short for three nights straight. My diet has been pretty clean, but not as good as I would like due to being on the road. Just can not do it perfect when traveling, but I do my best.

    I weighed today and I was 180.5. Weight does not seem to be dropping much at all at this point. I am feel like I am still slowly leaning up due to increased vascularity. I think that I am holding some water right now around my midsection because there has not been much change there, but I can see a difference on my arms and legs. I will see how it measures up tomorrow on my update for the week.
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    Three Week Update

    Weight - 180lb(-5lb)(up 1lb from last week??)
    Bicep - 16.125"(-.125")
    Chest - 43.5"
    Thigh - 24.25"(-.75")
    Waist - 34.375" (-.125")
    Stomach - 34.875" (-.375")

    Calipers

    Pectoral - 5,5,5
    Abdominal - 18,18,18
    Thigh - 15,15,14

    BF% - 11.19% (-1.7%)

    Well, the total changes look okay, but week to week this week is very strange. My legs seem to have shrunk down a bit. This makes sense because I can see more definition all over and vascularity in my lower legs. I also gained a bit on my weight, but caliper measurements went down. While my waist and stomach measurements dont seem to be changing, the fat on my back and stomach seems to be alot softer and "squishier". From what I understand this is a good sign when fat gets really soft. I think that my water weight is going up and down right now and alot is hanging around my waist. I think in the pics you can still see a slight reduction in love handles on the double bi pics. For some reason my camera makes me a different color against different walls....so the comparison looks funny

    I counted my doses last night, and I have 9 more days on the stack. I am going to actually wait two or three days after stopping LipidFX before I give the final update. I want to give the water retention a chance to decrease if, in fact, that is an issue.
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    if your worried about water retention start taking Potassium 99mg 3x per day, that should combat any water retention caused by the TTA(LipidFX)
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    Originally Posted by brandon9134
    if your worried about water retention start taking Potassium 99mg 3x per day, that should combat any water retention caused by the TTA(LipidFX)
    Thanks for the info. I am not really worried about it, but I think it might be masking fat loss around my waist.....actually I am hoping that is the case. I am just logging what I see, and I will take a couple days to let it subside before final pics. Honestly, I dont want to have to take any more pills.
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    i hear ya bro, im cutting and im takin so many pills/caps (supps/vitamins etc), i started takin potassium 3x/day and i definatly saw a difference in water retention, good luck with the rest of the stack and keep up the progress
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    Originally Posted by brandon9134
    i hear ya bro, im cutting and im takin so many pills/caps (supps/vitamins etc), i started takin potassium 3x/day and i definatly saw a difference in water retention, good luck with the rest of the stack and keep up the progress
    Thanks. I am hoping to keep up the progress
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    nice update man- and great progress for the short time you've been on it!

    BTW- excuse me for asking but is that an appendix scar?
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    Originally Posted by Blap Blaow
    nice update man- and great progress for the short time you've been on it!

    BTW- excuse me for asking but is that an appendix scar?
    Yep, appendectamy when I was 18yo. I was in the hospital for a week and weighed 142lb when I got out. I looked like a skeleton.
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    Originally Posted by turbos10
    Yep, appendectamy when I was 18yo. I was in the hospital for a week and weighed 142lb when I got out. I looked like a skeleton.
    dayum!

    Your shoulders are looking huge in that last shot btw!
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    Awesome updates bro, your doing awesome. Always nice to gain weight and lose bodyfat.
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    I have been curious to see my cummulated results so I made a handle little graph. It is very interesting. You will notice that I actually gained lean mass and lost fat this last week. This might be attributed to the fact that I lifted 6 days the last week...who knows. Not suppose to happen while cutting, but seems to be.
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    Originally Posted by Blap Blaow
    dayum!

    Your shoulders are looking huge in that last shot btw!
    Thanks. My shoulders have decent thickness front to back, but genetically I have slumped narrow shoulders. I have been concentrating on the middle delt to try to fix this. It seems to me that shoulder size has so much to do with genetics. I see guys with awesome shoulders that cant overhead press 135lb....*shruggs*....

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    Awesome updates bro, your doing awesome. Always nice to gain weight and lose bodyfat.
    Yes, it is nice. I am curious to see what happens the first couple days when I get off the stack. Water should go down a little and glycogen should come back up. From what I have heard/read, Sesamin is pretty damned efficient at depleting glycogen stores.
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    Originally Posted by turbos10
    I attached some pics, but there is no real change noticable. I hate the way my camera flash makes me look flat as a piece of paper. I took a couple with no flash, and you can better see definition, but they still suck and got grainy for some reason. I put up a couple for comparison. It may just be me, but I think the double bi flash/no flash look completely different. I look leaner in the no flash pic I think.
    I know what you mean, bro. I take all my pics with no flash, otherwise I have no shadows. Good progress, btw.
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    Originally Posted by peepingyoda
    I know what you mean, bro. I take all my pics with no flash, otherwise I have no shadows. Good progress, btw.
    Yeah, the shadows are the only thing that make definition show in the pics. Oh well, you can at least see my love handles decreasing.....
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    Legs Today

    Squats - 105x20, 205x10, 225x8,8,8
    Lungs - 90x10, 3 sets
    Leg Curl/Leg Extension - 120each, 12 reps, 3 sets

    Standing Calf Raise - 225x20,275x20,18,18
    Seated Calf Raise - 180x15,10,10

    Bike - 10 min. low intensity cool down

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    Not much new to report. I was pretty damned whipped after my leg workout today. I only had ~70g of carbs all day leading up to my workout so I was pretty low on energy. On another note, I have noticed a big increase in acne on my face and chest. I have also noticed being hot more lately. I think I have had it all along, but the weather is warming up here and I am really noticing now. Thats about it for today....
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    Originally Posted by turbos10
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    Squats - 105x20, 205x10, 225x8,8,8
    Lungs - 90x10, 3 sets
    Leg Curl/Leg Extension - 120each, 12 reps, 3 sets

    Standing Calf Raise - 225x20,275x20,18,18
    Seated Calf Raise - 180x15,10,10

    Bike - 10 min. low intensity cool down
    I bet those lunges were hell after that squat session! I'm dead right now too, looks like we both put in good leg workouts today!

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    Originally Posted by stonecoldtruth
    I bet those lunges were hell after that squat session! I'm dead right now too, looks like we both put in good leg workouts today!

    Keep up the good work bro, you are an inspiration!
    Hehe....thanks....dont think of myself as much inspiration, but thanks.
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    Chest/Tri Workout Today

    Flat Smith Bar Press - 105x18,195x10,225x6,4
    Incline Dumbell Press - 100x5, 90x8,8
    Flat Cable Flyes - 6.5platesx10,10, 7 plates x 10

    Cable Tri Pressdown - 7plates x 12, 8plates x 10,10
    Overhead DB Extension - 30x12, 35x10, 40x10

    20 minutes medium/high intensity

    Thoughts

    Workout was decent today, but nothing to write home about. Kindof like my chest workout last week....just a little off. Diet was clean today other than one cookie my wife made and I could not resist. I am out of chicken and lean ground beef so most of my protein was from whey and muscle milk today. I did have a grilled chicken sandwich for lunch with my wife.

    Fat loss seems to have kindof fallen off. It was slower last week and this week I really dont feel like I am loosing much. We'll see how it goes for the next couple days. As mentioned before I am hoping some water will disappear after I finish the stack.
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    Bi/Calf Workout Yesterday

    Standing BB Curl - 95x10,95x8,105x8
    Alt. DB Hammer Curl - 50x10,55x10,60x10(little cheatin on the last set)
    Hammer Cable Curl - high rep, low weight for pump...it worked

    Seated Calf Raise - 180x20,225x15,15
    Standing Calf Raise - 225x20, 315x15, 15

    20 minutes on bike medium intensity

    Thoughts

    Well, yesterday and today I seem to have dropped a little water or something and my waist and stomach measurments are down about 1/8-1/4 inch each over the lowest measurements I have had. I know it is not much, but any change there tells me things are happening. I weighed 179.5 yesterday, so weight is really not changing much.

    I have two days after today on the stack. I will do an update first of next week after having a couple days off everything other than my staple suppliments. That should give the most accurate before and after pics/stats.
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    Back and Hammie Workout Yesterday

    Wide grip chins - BW x 15,12,10
    DB Rows - 100x12, 120x10,10(almost hurled on that last one)
    VBar Rows - 15plates x10, 16x8, 17x7 (still grip limited dammit)
    SLDL - 135x20, 225x10, 265x8,6 (never done 265 before, reps were down)
    Ham Curls - 12plates x 8,8,8

    Thoughts

    Well, this is the end. Yesterday I ran out of everything but cAMP, which I have a little bit left. I am going to post an update first of next week to see what happens when I level out. I will tell you that this morning I measured my waist and.........under 34"!!!! I am hoping today I will drop a little more water around my waist and it will go down some more. I also measured BF yesterday and was coming in high 10's, but we will see how it looks in a couple days. Hoping to measure mid 10 putting me in the 12's at least in reality. Final update in a couple days.......
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    Wow- that went quick! Look forward to your final update!!
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    Originally Posted by Blap Blaow
    Wow- that went quick! Look forward to your final update!!
    I was thinking the same thing. Seems like I only started a couple weeks ago.
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    That did fly by, looking forward to the update.
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    Originally Posted by young_squatter
    That did fly by, looking forward to the update.
    Me too. I definately have some water up and down thing going on. Tonight my waist is up like almost an inch:O. I usually take all my measurments in the morning when water is not as much a factor. Will do the same for the wrap up.
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    Final Update

    Weight - 180lb (-5lb)
    Bicep - 16."(-.25")
    Chest - 43"(-.5")
    Thigh - 24.5"(-.5")
    Waist - 34" (-.5")
    Stomach - 34.375" (-.825")

    Calipers

    Pectoral - 5,5,5
    Abdominal - 18,17,17
    Thigh - 14,14,14

    BF% - 10.78% (-2%)

    Final Thoughts
    Hmmm.....lost 2% BF in 4 weeks. I guess that sums it up for the most part. Obviously my actaul BF is probably still in the 12% range, but I am very happy being able to drop that much on the calipers. You can look at my measurements and see a shrunk a good bit. I was able to maintain strength through the entire log and might end up gaining a little LBM in the end if I am lucky. I will weigh in today when I go to the gym and update the progress chart so you can see it all the way through.

    I would recommend this stack to anyone who is cutting. I dont really know if all the products are necessary to get the same results, but I am very happy with how it turned out. I would like to again thank Scivation and USPLabs for making the log possible and thank Derek for picking me to do it.

    I have attached the bar graph with weekly results, but I am having some technical difficulties with pics. Will have them up later or tomorrow.
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    Great work bro, 2% bodyfat in 4 weeks is awesome progress. Congrats.
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