It doesn't seem like a lot of football players do deadlifts. Is there a reason for this?
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02-08-2008, 06:21 AM #1
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02-08-2008, 07:38 AM #2
Usually high schools dont do them, mainly because they'd rather spend time with easier lifts to learn than spend time teaching correct form. Which is pretty stupid because most of the time they teach bad form anyways. Like squating all the way down to the floor.
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David.
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02-08-2008, 09:36 AM #3
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02-08-2008, 10:24 AM #4
SLDL's are used alot in football programs, but regular deads I don't see too much. Another is Romanian Deads(Some terminology will confllict from program to program as someone stated in another thread weeks ago. Straight leg is zero bend at knee while shifting hips back; a RDL is just like normal RDL in our program, knees slightly bent.)
We do them, but I don't know why we don't do regular deadlifts, it has never been asked or talked about. I will ask our trainer today.Free Don King...
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02-08-2008, 02:21 PM #5
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02-08-2008, 02:24 PM #6
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02-08-2008, 04:35 PM #7
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02-08-2008, 04:43 PM #8
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02-08-2008, 05:55 PM #9
Oops, didnt mean it was bad form, i just remember always being told its horrible for your knees down the road.
Edit: Heres an article i found, it talks about the cartilage(sp?) and stuff. Read Up, and btw im no S&C coach of any sort so dont take any advice from me directly, hopefully fullback or someone with experience can answer this question.
http://www.gainingweight.info/can-sq...or-your-knees/
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David.Last edited by Davidv602; 02-08-2008 at 06:03 PM.
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02-08-2008, 06:12 PM #10
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^^^I disagree with the above article.
Your knee cartilage is going to take a beating regardless of where you stop on your squats. That's a non-factor. It's the ligaments that one should really be worried about.
Your knee is at its strongest point at full flexion or full extension. It is at its WEAKEST point at a 90 degree angle. Why do you think athletic trainers do the drawer test with your knee at a 90 degree angle? Simple. There is very little support on the knee joint other than the ligaments.
Whereas, when you're at full flexion (ass-to-grass), not only is your knee in a stronger position to explode up, your hips, hammies, and glutes take a great majority more of the load, which means at ass-to-grass your knee is in a stronger position, and it has much less stress on it to begin with because of more muscles evenly spreading the load.
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02-08-2008, 06:17 PM #12
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02-08-2008, 06:19 PM #13
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02-08-2008, 06:21 PM #14
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02-08-2008, 06:24 PM #15
I've found that the problem is usually not going low enough. most of the guys at my school weight room do little butt dips or quarter squats. When they saw me get my hip sockets bellow my knees they looked very confused. I'll try to tell them these things but they don't care and keep stacking 3-4 plates on each side and doing little butt dips.
As for deadlifts, just about all of our football players in our weight room do them, they use a hex bar though. most of them have never lifted outside of school though and have never seen it done with a straight bar."when life gives you a lemon say, 'yea, I like lemons, what else ya got?'"
position: Center... or wherever/Defensive End
stats: freshman
Height-6'
Weight-170lbs
bench-180lbs
deadlift-330lbs
Squat(bellow parallel)-225lbs
power clean-185lbs
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02-08-2008, 06:27 PM #16
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02-08-2008, 06:28 PM #17
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02-08-2008, 06:33 PM #18
My coach that I'm workin out with to get ready to play in college next year has us doing them on some lower body days but my team has always done them-straight bar only. I like em
"I hated every minute of training, but I said, 'Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.' "
New Goals for May 19th (End of Freshman Year):
Current/Goal
Bench:365/415
Squat:620/700
Clean:295(bad wrists)/325
Vertical:31/35
40:5.1/5.0
Weight:293/300
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02-08-2008, 06:48 PM #19
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02-08-2008, 06:59 PM #21
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02-08-2008, 08:38 PM #25
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02-08-2008, 08:50 PM #26
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02-08-2008, 09:01 PM #27
thats the most retarded thing ive heard. janssen is completely right, deadlifts are one of the best overall lifts. when you tackle, there is a huge amount of stress on your back. when you get hit or pushing through a hole (if you're playing RB) then there is a huge amount of stress on you back. Deadlifts prepare you and your muscles will get STRONGER to adapt to more weight, it won't stunt your growth or anything.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
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02-09-2008, 04:01 AM #28
Love the deads, although you need to give the lower back adequate time to heal before doing them again. It's tough for me to do both (squat/dead) on the same day too due to energy expanded in the process. And to split them up is okay at 3-4 days between them. Just watch the lower back as articulation issues that cause muscle spasms are not fun. I speak from experience. Good luck
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02-09-2008, 06:15 AM #29
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02-09-2008, 09:26 AM #30
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