Designer Stackables: VIGOR™ FAQ

[cxm]

Is vitamin C and E part of the VIGOR Anti-O-Matrix blend, and if not are you at liberty to mention how much Vitamin C and E is in each serving? Thanks

[uhockey]

Is vitamin C and E part of the VIGOR Anti-O-Matrix blend, and if not are you at liberty to mention how much Vitamin C and E is in each serving? Thanks

It is NOT part of the matrix, but an addition. As everyone from DS is either on their way to or already at the Arnold I cannot obtain the info until I return.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

It is NOT part of the matrix, but an addition. As everyone from DS is either on their way to or already at the Arnold I cannot obtain the info until I return.

You guys have a blast!

[zeppelin]

i think they forgot this was still out there

http://www.charliefrancis.com/index....id=37&Itemid=2

FROSTBYTE
Building your Free Radical Firewall
(A CF.com Exclusive)

Over the last few months, antioxidants were targeted as a potential health hazard for those supplementing their diets with extra vitamin A, C, and E and this has left athletes at a loss in what to do with their nutritional needs. Like many, you may be frustrated with seeing laundry lists of rare Chinese mushrooms, exotic vitamin juices, and secret Russian herbs prescribed by gurus and clever marketing. Examining the literature further, the oxidative stress with athletes is real and should be dealt with precise dietary changes and training design safeguards. With all of the antioxidant supplements available, deciding on what formula is optimal could be a burden. Fortunately, the FROST product stands alone as one the most practical and sound formulas available.

Free Radical Damage - Hype or Horror?

FROST stands for Free Radical Oxidation Stress Terminator and was designed to support athletes during heavy training and competition. While the existence of the formula was due to the need of nutritional support from training, current fads of mega doses have been plaguing the industry with scare tactics of free radical damage from exercise. Free radicals are not new evils of exercise, just products of metabolic reactions and can be delt with fairly easily.

Chemically speaking, free radicals are uncharged atomic or molecular species with unpaired electrons that are released in the natural reactions that occur in our body. In order to neutralize themselves from their electrical charge, free radicals seek out electrons from other substances in our bodies such as cell membranes. Thanks to evolution, compounds such as enzymes, phytonutrients, metal binding proteins, and nutrient derived antioxidants from our diets protect us against ROS (reactive oxygen species) and keep us healthy.

During intense exercise, the body's uptake of oxygen can be at skyrocketing rates and this surge increases the electron flux of the mitochondrial electron transport chain, creating the need to neutralize free radicals rapidly. When training has ceased, the body is in dire need of support from internal mechanisms from oxidative stress. Our protective systems includes an array of vitamins such as the fat-soluble antioxidants such as vitamin E and beta-carotene and the water soluble antioxidant, vitamin C. Antioxidant enzymes such as superoxide dismutase (SOD), catalase (CAT), and selenium-dependent glutathione peroxidase (GPX), all counteracting free radical release.

Priming your Antioxidant System- Maximize recovery with FROST

After intense training, two pathways are possible to athletes and one of them is an upregulated adaptation that can allow the body to defend more effectively against free radicals. The other possible pathway that can occur is tissue damage if the support system is not prepared for the oxidative stress. Sound training loads are part of the responsibility of the coach and program but walking the fine line can be made easier with an antioxidant safety net. The FROST formula was designed to be flexible enough to respond to the daily needs priming the enzymes, phytonutrients, and vitamins for normal biological functions as well as to counteract acute demands of supra-maximal training such as sprinting and intense weight training. Athletes that utilize FROST can receive the following benefits:

A Strong ORAC- The ORAC acronym stands for Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity and is used to score the antioxidant potential of foods and supplements. USDA researchers say that the average person needs approximately 3,000 to 5,000 ORAC units per day to have a significant impact on plasma and tissue antioxidant capacity. FROST delivers 5850 ORAC units to athletes in one daily serving.

Apoptosis Accelerators - Apoptosis in programmed cell death that is vital to health and the FROST formula contains ellagic acid that stimulates turnover of sick, abnormal, or underperforming cells. The proprietary blend of polyphenols, a nthocyanins and proanthocyanins also perform a variety of important functions to athletes, such as supporting the organs and tissues of the body. Cells that are weak are then encouraged to be replaced by newer and healthier cells.

Apoptosis is a natural defense against cancer and other malfunctions to the body.

Cortisol Neutralizing Ability - When taken in the Alarm Dose (4 capsules) after extreme loads of heavy competition, the stable ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) can reduce elevated cortisol (1,2,3). It is highly suggested that athletes and coaches use this benefit when only necessary since constant heavy workloads can increase the chances of overtraining and injury.

CNS Fatigue Support- The B-Pro Matrix includes five B vitamins involved in every bodily function that requires cell division. Folic acid is used to regenerate red blood cells, rebuild new muscle, and provide athletes with new nervous system chemicals for explosive movements. Also included in the B-Pro Matrix are following,Thiamin Hcl, Ribovflavin, Niacinamide, and Pyrodoxine Hcl.

FROST contains pharmaceutical grade ingredients and has no ingredients that are banned by the NCAA, IOC, FINA, FIFA, IAAF, and other governing bodies aligned with drug free sport. Each bottle includes 45 servings or 6 weeks of antioxidant support and is in capsule form. It is suggested that athletes take one capsule with breakfast and dinner daily or up to four capsules post competition or after workouts that are of the highest intensity.

Cortisol References

1. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003 Jun;13(2):125-51. Vitamin C: effects of exercise and requirements with training. Peake JM.

2. J Interferon Cytokine Res. 2000 Nov;20(11):1029-35. Influence of vitamin C supplementation on cytokine changes following an ultramarathon. Nieman DC , Peters EM, Henson DA, Nevines EI, Thompson MM.

3. Int J Sports Med. 2001 Feb;22(2):120-6. Attenuation of increase in circulating cortisol and enhancement of the acute phase protein response in vitamin C-supplemented ultramarathoners. Peters EM, Anderson R, Theron AJ.

Active Ingredients: Frost Pro Proprietary Matrix of exclusive Patent Pending ORAC+Manufacturing Process [Grape Seed Extract 95%, Bilberry Powder, Blueberry Powder, Cranberry Powder, Prune Powder, Raspberry Seed Powder, Resveratrol. Quercetin, Tart Cherry Powder], Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin E Acetate, B-Pro matrix [Thiamin Hcl, Ribovflavin, Niacinamide, Pyrodoxine Hcl, Folic Acid].

Other Ingredients: Magnesium stearate, gelatin, silica.

[cody3308]

Is vitamin C and E part of the VIGOR Anti-O-Matrix blend, and if not are you at liberty to mention how much Vitamin C and E is in each serving? Thanks

Most likely 500 mg Vit C and 400 IU Vit E, any reason Selenium wasn't included?


EDIT: Above post...it says Frost is no longer an active product.

[Blap Blaow]

, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin E Acetate, B-Pro matrix [Thiamin Hcl, Ribovflavin, Niacinamide, Pyrodoxine Hcl, Folic Acid].

Other Ingredients: Magnesium stearate, gelatin, silica.

That site dosn't sell that poduct anymore but I still don't get it. The list of ingredients are identical, as are the blends. They both even call the second blend the 'B-Pro Matrix'.

[uhockey]

That site dosn't sell that poduct anymore but I still don't get it. The list of ingredients are identical, as are the blends. They both even call the second blend the 'B-Pro Matrix'.

Neat, huh?

I'm sure some people can put 2+2 together, for others I'll simply not divulge the info unless TP gives the okay. For the time being, suffice it to say FROST isn't available, and Vigor is born of talks stemming back to October. It just took me a while to sell Steve on the idea.

[Blap Blaow]

Neat, huh?

I'm sure some people can put 2+2 together, for others I'll simply not divulge the info unless TP gives the okay. For the time being, suffice it to say FROST isn't available, and Vigor is born of talks stemming back to October. It just took me a while to sell Steve on the idea.

Interesting. A theory had occured to me

As for availability- it seems pretty available here in the UK? Actually, I see it for £5 ($8.74 US) here on eBay and £25 in an online store!

EDIT: I misread it- that's actually £25 for 4 bottles.

[cody3308]

That site dosn't sell that poduct anymore but I still don't get it. The list of ingredients are identical, as are the blends. They both even call the second blend the 'B-Pro Matrix'.

Basically DS either bought the rights to the blend... or maybe the original maker is no longer selling it, so DS decided to use the formula.

[Blap Blaow]

Basically DS either bought the rights to the blend... or maybe the original maker is no longer selling it, so DS decided to use the formula.

thanks............................................

[uhockey]

Hey all, still at the Arnold. We got in our very first shipment of Vigor AT the show and have nearly sold it out at this point.....at the prices we're charging at this thing you'd assume so......::cough:: $10 ::cough::

I also talked to the people about FROST and according to the maker of the product there is VERY little of it left and it has been d/ced As I said, there is an obvious relationship between the two products.

I know for a fact that Chuck Rudolph, Androgenic from MAN, ItallionStallion, and a lot of the Molecular nutrtion fellas picked some up.

[Tkenshin]

when will vigor be on BB.com?

[uhockey]

I was told it shipped last week, I will inquire further. I hope soon.

[Tkenshin]

thnx cuz i wanted to purchase my order from bb alrdy but waiting for vigor to arrive.

[Robboe]

It was shipped to us last week to be dispersed around retailers, but i don't think it's getting to us until Monday for whatever reason. It'll go out instantly though.

[Tkenshin]

It was shipped to us last week to be dispersed around retailers, but i don't think it's getting to us until Monday for whatever reason. It'll go out instantly though.

thank you, damn i hope its not more than 25 dollars.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Did I mention yet that Vigor is the shiznit?

[Skigazzi]

If the high ORAC rating is what is being targeted (as the marketing would suggest), then what advantage would this blend have at an ORAC rating of 5800 per serving versus a single capsule of quality green tea extract (lean green for example) which likely has an ORAC of 8000-10000? or a cap of GTE along with a good multi? A cup of tea is about 500-1000 ORAC according to published studies. Studies posted in POST # 34

(assuming 1000 ORAC in a cup of GT (which is conservative), with the extract being good for 10 cups which is a fairly standard assumption).

Self-bumpage for discussion

[factotum]

Did I mention yet that Vigor is the shiznit?

Better than X-factor?!?! Would this be a good combo to stack together?

[sublimejeh]

is it first only being shipped to bb.com or other retailers as well?

[G.W. Hayduke]

Better than X-factor?!?! Would this be a good combo to stack together?

In terms of ORAC... yes, it is better than X-Factor...

I think they would stack well together. Personally, Vigor is a staple supp. I wish I had a lifetime supply of it.

[uhockey]

Self-bumpage for discussion

I don't buy that ORAC personally and as we all know, antioxidants all work at different levels of the redox reaction, each buffering each other through a variety of pathways.

I personally use 1 cap Vigor, 1 cap lean green, 1 cap GXR daily to keep a balance.

WRT Vigor and X-factor.......I consider it an essential. I'm very partial to a health-first approach to this sport and really don't like the idea of promoting the inflammatory state while also decreasing the number of antioxidant omega-3s in my body.

[G.W. Hayduke]

I don't buy that ORAC personally and as we all know, antioxidants all work at different levels of the redox reaction, each buffering each other through a variety of pathways.

I personally use 1 cap Vigor, 1 cap lean green, 1 cap GXR daily to keep a balance.

WRT Vigor and X-factor.......I consider it an essential. I'm very partial to a health-first approach to this sport and really don't like the idea of promoting the inflammatory state while also decreasing the number of antioxidant omega-3s in my body.

Yep, antioxidants--especially fruit/veggie concentrates--go far beyond ORAC value. That's one reason why when I'm homebrewing I go for full-spectrum concentrates that are also standardized for a known active.

My current good health regimen is 1 Vigor, 1 GXR, and my homebrew bacopa/rhodiola/gynostemma blend (lower dose) on top of a multivite. I also drink green tea. I don't know what I'm gonna do when I run out of the Vigor and GXR I got at The Arnold. Trying to conserve.

I take a health-first approach as well (most of the time at least) and still feel confident that XF, when used appropriately, can meat the requisites of a health-first objective.

[uhockey]

I take a health-first approach as well (most of the time at least) and still feel confident that XF, when used appropriately, can meat the requisites of a health-first objective.

Considering the presence of AA in steak and other meats, was that an intentional pun, or did ya mean meet?

[G.W. Hayduke]

Considering the presence of AA in steak and other meats, was that an intentional pun, or did ya mean meet?

You're damn right it was a pun! I'm just that unconciously clever!

[Robboe]

Self-bumpage for discussion

Proanthocyanidin, Polyphenols, Anthocyanins, Ellagic acid and Quinic acid.

I've no idea if any or all are present in green tea, but they are present in VIGOR so it is a very well-rounded product.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Proanthocyanidin, Polyphenols, Anthocyanins, Ellagic acid and Quinic acid.

I've no idea if any or all are present in green tea, but they are present in VIGOR so it is a very well-rounded product.

Polyphenols, yes. The others, I don't think so (maybe quinic acid). But tea does have tannic acid which has similar actions to ellagic acid.

Self-bumpage for discussion

As Uhockey said, it isn't all about ORAC. Coffee has a huge ORAC but see if you can replace strawberries and blueberries with it.

(I had to edit that more times than any sane person would've)

[freakie]

So is Vigor "Vita Berry" or "Vita Berry Plus"?
I'm trying to ascertain what exactly is in it and since DS isn't ponying up the info I'd thought I'd go to the source.

[uhockey]

So is Vigor "Vita Berry" or "Vita Berry Plus"?
I'm trying to ascertain what exactly is in it and since DS isn't ponying up the info I'd thought I'd go to the source.

Neither.

[freakie]

Neither.

So DS isn't sourcing this product from Futureceuticals?
The marketing on Vigor sounds an awful lot like theirs.