The pats will go downhill next year

[paul2121]

no more super bowl wins for the pats it's over.

discuss....

[jeremy1ns]

sounds like a plan to me, the colts and chargers will be better if they can stay healthy so i dont see the pats going to the SB again

[KingCanuck]

That line backing core +1 year of age

[manofmany]

Who remembers everyone talking about what ifs in regards to Brady having the same receivers Peyton Manning does. They said he would be inevitably the best ever and win all SB's. He got them and couldn't deliver. He's choked two years in a row.

[bubba g]

Who remembers everyone talking about what ifs in regards to Brady having the same receivers Peyton Manning does. They said he would be inevitably the best ever and win all SB's. He got them and couldn't deliver. He's choked two years in a row.

Brady must hate those Manning boys... lol


THe Patriots have an unbelivably easy schedule next year so I wouldn't count on them losing alot of games...

Teams have figured out ways to stop the Patriots from scoring so many points though..

[TheStender]

Who remembers everyone talking about what ifs in regards to Brady having the same receivers Peyton Manning does. They said he would be inevitably the best ever and win all SB's. He got them and couldn't deliver. He's choked two years in a row.

Last I checked, Brady still has more rings than either Manning. Right?

And why would the Patriots go downhill next year? Unless they have a horribly off season and lose a bunch of players, I don't see them going downhill. Of course, they won't have as good of a year as they did this year, but I wouldn't call that going downhill...

[leafs43]

Last I checked, Brady still has more rings than either Manning. Right?

And why would the Patriots go downhill next year? Unless they have a horribly off season and lose a bunch of players, I don't see them going downhill. Of course, they won't have as good of a year as they did this year, but I wouldn't call that going downhill...

Statistics are against the pats.

There is I think 1 team, the 2006 Seahawks, that have just made the playoffs after a super bowl loss since the 93 Bills. And the 06 hawks did nothing.


A super bowl loss is demoralizing to a franchise especially in this day and age when free agency rips teams apart.

[TheStender]

Statistics are against the pats.

There is I think 1 team, the 2006 Seahawks, that have just made the playoffs after a super bowl loss since the 93 Bills. And the 06 hawks did nothing.


A super bowl loss is demoralizing to a franchise especially in this day and age when free agency rips teams apart.

Eh, it's possible. We'll have to see.

[leafs43]

Eh, it's possible. We'll have to see.

Trust me, it is not pretty.

Look at the past super bowl losers such as the Bears of last year or Philly 2 years ago or Carolina or Raiders. They arent doing so hot right now as you can probably tell.

[Greg1983]

Trust me, it is not pretty.

Look at the past super bowl losers such as the Bears of last year or Philly 2 years ago or Carolina or Raiders. They arent doing so hot right now as you can probably tell.

You can't honestly think they won't make the playoffs. The best shot of that happening is if the Bills win the division lol.

[Negatron617]

i dont know...just like you dont know....if eli can win a superbowl ANYTHING is possible

[manofmany]

Last I checked, Brady still has more rings than either Manning. Right?

And why would the Patriots go downhill next year? Unless they have a horribly off season and lose a bunch of players, I don't see them going downhill. Of course, they won't have as good of a year as they did this year, but I wouldn't call that going downhill...

For now, yes.

[Negatron617]

idunno man, if they dont get to the SB with an 18-0 record it would be considered a "down year"

[kethnaab]

Who remembers everyone talking about what ifs in regards to Brady having the same receivers Peyton Manning does. They said he would be inevitably the best ever and win all SB's. He got them and couldn't deliver. He's choked threeyears in a row.

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Interestingly enough, in 2 of the last 3 Pats' playoff victories, Brady threw 3 interceptions each game.

Damn good QB, but we need to start removing him from his pedastal. He played a pedestrian game, and for once, the rest of his team didn't bail him out

[leafs43]

You can't honestly think they won't make the playoffs. The best shot of that happening is if the Bills win the division lol.

Seeing as how the bills had a playoff shot considering the were playing 3rd stringers............


all bets are off lol

[manofmany]

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Interestingly enough, in 2 of the last 3 Pats' playoff victories, Brady threw 3 interceptions each game.

Damn good QB, but we need to start removing him from his pedastal. He played a pedestrian game, and for once, the rest of his team didn't bail him out

He's no doubt an excellent quarterback and had a great run, but he just doesn't seem to be able to pull it off anymore in the playoffs.

[leafs43]

He's no doubt an excellent quarterback and had a great run, but he just doesn't seem to be able to pull it off anymore in the playoffs.

No Viniteri obviously

[ElMariachi]

no more super bowl wins for the pats it's over.

discuss....

I wouldn't say that, but their window is definitely limited, as with any team in the NFL. They'll still have a high 1st round pick, so they can definitely grab an impact player, but yeah, their linebacking group is old, they might lose some key free agents, and they have to resign Moss. They won't have as much room under the cap as they did last year either. They'll have to make sacrifices, and while they will still definitely be a contender for a long time, they won't be as dominant as they were this year.


On top of that, just like when the Rams were tearing up the league, you'll see teams respond directly to handle the Patriots, which means that there will be a HUGE demand for talented defensive linemen that can create pressure effectively. Teams like the Ravens and Eagles drew up the blueprint on how to beat the Patriots, and the Giants perfected it, so you will never seen Brady throw for 50 TD's or even close again.

[Back To It]

Here is a list of their UFA- they might lose a few good players.

Troy Brown, WR
Tedy Bruschi, LB
Jabar Gaffney, WR
Randall Gay, CB
Larry Izzo, LB
Randy Moss, WR
Mel Mitchell, S
Lonie Paxton, LS
Asante Samuel, CB
Junior Seau, LB
Chad Scott, CB
Eugene Wilson, S

They have the No. 7 overall pick, but that will cost them a lot of money for a rookie.

[leafs43]

I wouldn't say that, but their window is definitely limited, as with any team in the NFL. They'll still have a high 1st round pick, so they can definitely grab an impact player, but yeah, their linebacking group is old, they might lose some key free agents, and they have to resign Moss. They won't have as much room under the cap as they did last year either. They'll have to make sacrifices, and while they will still definitely be a contender for a long time, they won't be as dominant as they were this year.


On top of that, just like when the Rams were tearing up the league, you'll see teams respond directly to handle the Patriots, which means that there will be a HUGE demand for talented defensive linemen that can create pressure effectively. Teams like the Ravens and Eagles drew up the blueprint on how to beat the Patriots, and the Giants perfected it, so you will never seen Brady throw for 50 TD's or even close again.

Pats are done.

Every Pats fan will admit that this was their oldest team, they are almost basically in a rebuilding stage after free agency takes over. This is where the business portion takes over. You think someone like welker is gonna play for pennies? Assante staying for chump change? Randy staying a good boy for another year? Old linebacking crew that is half past retired.

The Rams had almost everyone returning the next year and did nothing. You have to hold individual years almost mutually exclusive because the NFL is the most up and down league in pro sports.

[bubba g]

Last I checked, Brady still has more rings than either Manning. Right?

And why would the Patriots go downhill next year? Unless they have a horribly off season and lose a bunch of players, I don't see them going downhill. Of course, they won't have as good of a year as they did this year, but I wouldn't call that going downhill...

Lets see how they are going to replace Asente Samual... No way are they going to pay him what he's worth, and they can't put the franchise tag on him again. Moss is going to want a ton of money, if they put a franchise tag on him he will turn into the Moss of old in a heartbeat.

Several of their older (back bone) players will be either retiring, or one year older, and slower. Most players whos contracts are up for renewal who have rings already will be going for the money now.

When a team loses the superbowl they historicly don't do well the next year..

If any of these rumors of past spying come to be true Belechek might not be coaching anymore. It is rumored that what has come to light already is just the tip of the iceberg.

[sammy21]

Lets see how they are going to replace Asente Samual... No way are they going to pay him what he's worth, and they can't put the franchise tag on him again. Moss is going to want a ton of money, if they put a franchise tag on him he will turn into the Moss of old in a heartbeat.

Several of their older (back bone) players will be either retiring, or one year older, and slower. Most players whos contracts are up for renewal who have rings already will be going for the money now.

When a team loses the superbowl they historicly don't do well the next year..

If any of these rumors of past spying come to be true Belechek might not be coaching anymore. It is rumored that what has come to light already is just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't know, the other player that could be reitirng is Seau, and the only old part of the team are teh linebackers. I think they should try to hold onto Moss and Welker but let Stallworth go (Gaffney is good enough, Stallworth will want too much money) Otherwise their line is still young, maybe just pickup a couple defensive players in the draft and they'll be fine.

[Cramerica]

Statistics are against the pats.

There is I think 1 team, the 2006 Seahawks, that have just made the playoffs after a super bowl loss since the 93 Bills. And the 06 hawks did nothing.


A super bowl loss is demoralizing to a franchise especially in this day and age when free agency rips teams apart.

Yeah, but didn't the Patriots come back and win a Super Bowl the next year after just missing the playoffs the year before?

With their cake walk schedule next season and level of consistency over the last few years, I could still see them in the playoffs.

They need to update their aging linebackers though.

[niospecv]

They won't be the same team. They will drop and won't be as good ever.

[ElMariachi]

If they don't end up losing their 1st rounder, they can get a pretty damn good linebacker or corner with the 7th/8th pick...........personally I think that they need to find a new tackle, because Light was just plain getting abused last night.

[RelentlessChaos]

i dont either. i think the colts will come strong again, and possibly make another appearance to the sperbowl. If not them, then chargers. I think the cowboys will be good too.

[GarthVader]

no more super bowl wins for the pats it's over.

discuss....

This guy was partly right.

[dyee4613]

NVM - Didn't see it was 08

[Vikes723]

i dont either. i think the colts will come strong again, and possibly make another appearance to the sperbowl. If not them, then chargers. I think the cowboys will be good too.

boy did this age so so SO badly.... LOL

[HoganIsGOAT]

The Chiefs will win the Super Bowl next season. Write this down.