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    Question 100 crunches every day !!

    Guys what do you think about Step 3 of this "eHow" article on how to get abs?
    Is it really healthy to exercise abs daily and 100s of times?

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    I disagree with the article.






    You should do 300 a day.
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    Originally Posted by therorschach View Post
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    You should do 300 a day.
    No u got it all wrong man 300 twice a day...LoL
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    Originally Posted by kabtq9s View Post
    Guys what do you think about Step 3 of this "eHow" article on how to get abs?
    Is it really healthy to exercise abs daily and 100s of times?

    http://www.ehow.com/how_2177270_abs-...ose-plans.html
    100 a day really isnt that much....
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    100 a day really isnt that much....
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    Originally Posted by bigash50 View Post
    R U FOR REAL...NEGGED

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    but it's really not that much, high frequency for abs is great IMO, for strength it's hard to beat training the abs nearly every training session (every day if you can) but with lower reps and heavier weight, 100 a day will be good for endurance, if the OP wants to see his abs however it's probably an issue of diet.
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    guys I am not joking here.. I am seriously looking for an answer... I have been struggling with finding an ab routine that would work with me... thanks in advance !!
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    Originally Posted by kabtq9s View Post
    guys I am not joking here.. I am seriously looking for an answer... I have been struggling with finding an ab routine that would work with me... thanks in advance !!
    what do you want an ab routine for.

    ab strength?
    ab endurance?
    just to see the abs?

    what do you want?
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    but it's really not that much, high frequency for abs is great IMO, for strength it's hard to beat training the abs nearly every training session (every day if you can) but with lower reps and heavier weight, 100 a day will be good for endurance, if the OP wants to see his abs however it's probably an issue of diet.
    High reps yes, but not every day, its just obvious that any muscle group needs sufficent time to recover
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    decline sit-ups,bike cardio,running cardio,deadlifts,weighted decline situps,and there are some good ab machines out there (not like the bowflex or that crap,like cybex stuff)
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    Originally Posted by kabtq9s View Post
    guys I am not joking here.. I am seriously looking for an answer... I have been struggling with finding an ab routine that would work with me... thanks in advance !!
    Hey man, sorry for earlier, i recommend doing abs twice a week with a couple of days rest in between.

    Choose 2/3 excersises for high reps, also get you diet in check cos unless your low on BF u wont see abs.

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    High reps yes, but not every day, its just obvious that any muscle group needs sufficent time to recover
    abs recovery very quickly, I believe upper back, forearms, abs, probably calves too can be trained everyday and still recover in time for your next training session.
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    abs recovery very quickly, I believe upper back, forearms, abs, probably calves too can be trained everyday and still recover in time for your next training session.
    Yes i agree abs do recover quickly but the op was asking 100 reps everday, where is the recovery time with this?

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    Yes i agree abs do recover quickly but the op was asking 100 reps everday, where is the recovery time with this?

    P.S Upper back everyday no rest days...CMON!!!!
    like I said 100 reps of crunches really isn't that much to recover from.

    pullups everyday is a great way to get better at pullups and gain some great muscle density too, you'll probably **** yourself if you saw the way many professional olympic lifters train (poland's lifters for instance train twice a day every day, that's snatch, clean&jerk, front or back squat every session; leonid taranenko (first and so far only man to clean and jerk 586 in comp) back squatted every day in training to get to an 836lbs 2 second pause back squat, he stopped front squatting after he got a 660 front squat).
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    what do you want an ab routine for.

    ab strength?
    ab endurance?
    just to see the abs?

    what do you want?
    I want all of them !!! especially seeing them.

    I have been doing weighted (10lbs) decline situps and crunches, 3 sets of 12 reps for each exercise, as well as weighted oblique extensions with 50lbs ... but I don't feel a thing the next day. I am 6.2 and wight 190lbs, have a flat stomach but no abs visible
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    like I said 100 reps of crunches really isn't that much to recover from.

    pullups everyday is a great way to get better at pullups and gain some great muscle density too, you'll probably **** yourself if you saw the way many professional olympic lifters train (poland's lifters for instance train twice a day every day, that's snatch, clean&jerk, front or back squat every session; leonid taranenko (first and so far only man to clean and jerk 586 in comp) back squatted every day in training to get to an 836lbs 2 second pause back squat, he stopped front squatting after he got a 660 front squat).
    Yet again i dont disagree with this, but the OP is not a powlifter/pro bodybuilder us normal guys require sufficent rest time, i know i also have to get up and go to work 5 days a week too as well as training.

    The main point is the op is normal every day joe like u and me he is asking what would be best and doing abs twice a week with a good diet and proper rest eventually his abs will show.
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    I want all of them !!! especially seeing them.

    I have been doing weighted (10lbs) decline situps and crunches, 3 sets of 12 reps for each exercise, as well as weighted oblique extensions with 50lbs ... but I don't feel a thing the next day. I am 6.2 and wight 190lbs, have a flat stomach but no abs visible
    Just vary your excersises bud increase reps and also lower rest periods, more abs excersises, leg raises, roman chair sit ups, window washers.

    If you dont swap things around your muscles will become stagnent.
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    Yet again i dont disagree with this, but the OP is not a powlifter/pro bodybuilder us normal guys require sufficent rest time, i know i also have to get up and go to work 5 days a week too as well as training.

    The main point is the op is normal every day joe like u and me he is asking what would be best and doing abs twice a week with a good diet and proper rest eventually his abs will show.
    how is a 100 bodyweight crunches alot to recover from? unless you have the WORST conditioning in the world I don't see how that's a problem; I don't disagree with what you're suggesting either, but to say 100 a day = teh overtrayningzzzzzzzzzz is just wrong.

    to the OP, you could cycle low rep work, like 4 sets x 6 reps heavy weight using the same weight each set and increasing when you can get all of the reps for strength, decline situps are good for this, and perhaps using 1-2 sets of 20-40+ reps or those 100 crunches you were thinking of with a lighter weight for endurance, russian twists, hanging leg raises, crunches are good for this, also weighted planks but instead of reps you'd be doing 1-2 time holds of a minute; switch which one you do every training session, do heavy/light/heavy/light you get the idea.

    to actually see your abs requires lower bodyfat though, you might wanna try the diet or nutrition section for that.
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    dude 100 reps of crunches just won't get you GREAT results. Honestly it will help your abs get stronger and only you know your body best. If you find that you find yourself struggling doing so then your abs aren't too strong and it's a perfectly good way to start off. Remember no pain no gain you should be feeling it. If you feel that it puts enough stress on your abs for it to grow then go for it. To improve you can add weights to chest or add reps good luck!
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    You also have to consider that it's the quality of the crunch rather than the quantity. If you can tightned your abs for each crunch / leg lift / sit-up for 3-5 seconds before going back to the relaxed position, you'll get a more effective workout. I was watching 2 people do crunches when I was on the cardio machine. One person was just banging away crunches. Another person next to him was holding each postion for 3-5 seconds for a total rep of 20. It seemed like for every 5 crunches the other person did was equavalent to 1 crunch from the person holding it's crunch for 3-5 seconds. I've seen guys at the gym do hundreds of crunches on some of the machines effortlessly. Does it benefit ? Maybe, maybe not. My PT always reminds his clients it's quality over quantity when doing anykind of ab routine.
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    how is a 100 bodyweight crunches alot to recover from? unless you have the WORST conditioning in the world I don't see how that's a problem; I don't disagree with what you're suggesting either, but to say 100 a day = teh overtrayningzzzzzzzzzz is just wrong.
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    crunches are a waste of time.

    most people end up doing more harm than good anyways (posture and neck come to mind)
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    OMG I actually agree with Goju.

    First, that routine does not say to only do crunches.

    2nd, I think the recommendations are pretty good. Actually, very old school.

    Abs DO recover quickly, and ST fibers recover more quickly than FT fibers, so high rep daily work of relatively low intensity can be recovered from.

    Runners obviously do it.
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    Originally Posted by bigash50 View Post
    Yes i agree abs do recover quickly but the op was asking 100 reps everday, where is the recovery time with this?

    P.S Upper back everyday no rest days...CMON!!!!
    I'm going to assume you don't train your abs. At all. You neg ppl for bad advice, it sounds to me like you're a moron.

    100 crunches a day is a decent start... I do about 150/day and my abs are 'okay'....

    Just do as many as you can, and do them daily. Abs can easilly be trained daily - they don't need much recovery time.
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    Variety is the key. There are as many different exercises for you core as there are people to do them.
    Doing a hundred crunches everyday in my opinion isn't going to do much for you if that's all your working on. You want to hit your core from many different levels.
    The other thing I see people do is that they do them all wrong. For best results you need to do them slowly and then hold for a count of two. All the momentum has to be taken out of the exercise for the exercise to work to it's optimun efficiency. And that pause is to allow your muscles to contract properly for any good to come of it.


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    Seems to work for me! I exercise abs 5 times a week and do around 300-400 reps of various ab exercises a day.
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    it depends on what you mean "to get abs"...do you want them to show, or do you just want strong abs? If the answer is just to get them to show, then half of it has to do with your diet.

    if you want strong abs, i mean no offense to the article, but just regular situps aren't going to cut it anymore. You have to do a hell of a lot harder workouts than that if you want abs of steel
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    Originally Posted by bigash50 View Post
    R U FOR REAL...NEGGED

    AS MY SIG SAYS I WILL NEG FOR BAD ADVICE!!!
    100 situps/day is really not that much..honestly
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