Light weight training is useless (endurance)

[farzamk]

Light is useless unless you're a distance runner (3000m or more) because what strength are you building a endurance of? Getting stronger increases endurance theoratically because think about it, I can bench 400 max and do my body weight which is 230 pounds for 40 reps (just a example), increasing my max up to 450 (increased strength) means my max reps for body weight (230 pounds) also goes up. So if Im spending time trying to increase reps on 230, my 400 will likely go up 5 pounds barely, instead lets train strength and let endurance go up as a result of increased strength.

[dansta]

yea ur right i think training for muscle endurance is pointless, but it could be useful for fighters that are trying to stay in certain weight class, and need to keep their endurance.

[monatu]

the rowers at my school did like a 3 month strength program where they trained to failure 3x a week. They had amazing results.
That was in the offseason

During season they only do endurance weights (20 squats/20 deads/20 rows/20 lunges x5 - with like 30-40kg's)

There doing really well this season.

I suppose the endurance weights are effective for them due to the length of their races? (anywhere between 1km and 8km's)

[farzamk]

the rowers at my school did like a 3 month strength program where they trained to failure 3x a week. They had amazing results.
That was in the offseason

During season they only do endurance weights (20 squats/20 deads/20 rows/20 lunges x5 - with like 30-40kg's)

There doing really well this season.

I suppose the endurance weights are effective for them due to the length of their races? (anywhere between 1km and 8km's)

Rowers are different, also going really light is useless, failure with pretty good weights or relatively medium is good for rowers. You need to look at the nture of the sport, rowing/distance running isnt something that needs quick bursts of power for short durations, therefore endurance is vital to reproduce the same level of strength.

[xKKx7]

the rowers at my school did like a 3 month strength program where they trained to failure 3x a week. They had amazing results.
That was in the offseason

During season they only do endurance weights (20 squats/20 deads/20 rows/20 lunges x5 - with like 30-40kg's)

There doing really well this season.

I suppose the endurance weights are effective for them due to the length of their races? (anywhere between 1km and 8km's)

they need to maintain an environment in-season thats not so rigorous that they won't die during their competitions. Endurance weights also isn't a bad idea for them just like farazmk was talkingabout how long distance runners need to use endurance lifting. Rowing is similar and it is due to the length of their races.

Rowing is actually a pretty hardcore sport, I wish our school had it.

[FutureFoe]

Training for maximum strength will result in more endurance per say, but not the other way around. Obviously, if you can bench 500 lbs, then 225 will feel like nothing. But if you strictly trained for max reps with 225, then your max won't necessarily go up. Your connective tissue has to be able to handle the load, and if all you do is 225 for reps, then your connective tissue won't be used to anything more than 225.

As far as endurance runners, weight training, even for strength, has shown to help with the "kick" at the end of the race.

[HoosierBoy]

Training with light weight isn't how I train for endurance (when I do, which is rare.)

Lower rest times are my ticket.

[monatu]

Rowing is actually a pretty hardcore sport, I wish our school had it.

**** yeh, one of my best friends does it

the way they train, frequency and volume and intensity, is insane. WAY more hardcore than our schools rugby training's and weight programs.

[FutureFoe]

**** yeh, one of my best friends does it

the way they train, frequency and volume and intensity, is insane. WAY more hardcore than our schools rugby training's and weight programs.

I know...has anyone been on a rowing ergometer? Absolute MURDER!!

[farzamk]

lower rest time and slightly higher reps are also how I train for endurance.

[KazuyaMishima]

If your gonna train endurance, use bw training, thats my opinion, I increase in strength(weight training) and endurance(bw) both together.

[omurphy21]

I'm a distance runner (1600m to above 5k) and have been weight training for a while. I have had success with bodyweight exercises and 8-12reps for weighted exercises. I was thinking of changing this up a little though, any suggestions?

[FutureFoe]

I'm a distance runner (1600m to above 5k) and have been weight training for a while. I have had success with bodyweight exercises and 8-12reps for weighted exercises. I was thinking of changing this up a little though, any suggestions?

Maybe a mid - high rep whole body circuit?

[DavidJr74]

I did a "shock" day for my bench press since I am in a plateau. I usually do this once every 3 monthes or so. I did 3 sets of max failure with 65 pounds. Does that make it kinda useless then?

[killermony]

i feel that light weight can be very good for working out the sorness of lifting after taking a break for a few weeks. it basicly just warms up my muscles and getts blood flowing and improves flexibility when i'm really sore. other than that i never do it.

[Reps n Sets]

If you always go heavy you will tax your CNS too much.

Plus it's good for maintaining strenght.

[farzamk]

body weight exercises are better than light lifting, personal favour though.

[thepijj]

how many reps/set are you talking about when you say light?

[farzamk]

how many reps/set are you talking about when you say light?

Depends on the muscle.

Generally 15-20+ reps on something like squats or bench. For sets 7-8+.

Some endurance work is necessary but body weight exercises cover that. Occasionally something like 10x10 is done.