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    I was a pharmacy technician at a CVS for 2 years. I would deny most people for pseudoephedrine. Consider 90% of them look liked complete sketchballs. You don't realize how many lowlifes come in looking for it. Moon cricket after dirty moon cricket. All the time.
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    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

    25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine

    25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine

    Effects of Ephedra on autonomic nervous modulations:
    Chen WL, Tsai TH, Yang CC, Kuo TB, Clinical Pharmacology And Therapeutics [Clin Pharmacol Ther], ISSN: 1532-6535, 2010 Jul; Vol. 88 (1), pp. 39-44; PMID: 20520603

    This discusses clinical reaction and toxicity of E
    Woolf, Alan D.; Watson, William A.; Smolinske, Susan; Litovitz, Toby. Clinical Toxicology (15563650), Aug2005, Vol. 43 Issue 5, p347-355, 9p, 3 Charts, 1 Graph; DOI: 10.1081/CLT-200066075

    Chen, Wei-Lung; Tsai, Tung-Hu; Yang, Cheryl C.H.; Kuo, Terry B.J.. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, Aug2010, Vol. 130 Issue 3, p563-568, 6p; DOI: 10.1016/j.jep.2010.05.056

    And this one..
    Mehendale, Sangeeta R.; Bauer, Brent A.; Chun-Su Yuan. American Journal of Chinese Medicine, 2004, Vol. 32 Issue 1, p1-10, 10

    These studies both link to a group of case studies where scientists essentially determined the difference in ephedrine HCL and Sulfate absorption/reaction in the body was .0002% after a four week run. Thats as numerically close to "zero difference" as it gets.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    I just bought two boxes of 25mg bronkaid from cvs also. I got rejected 3 times before I was successful on a purchase lol. Im an RN to btw, good to see other ones here!

    BTW, 25mg bronkaids suck imo. I usually buy ephedrine hcl in bulk, but I only needed a 3 week supply so I just tried these. Horrible, 25mg is like 10mg of my ephedrine hcl.. hell even weaker than 10mg for me.

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    In regards to the alternative Primatene, one of the ingredients is "guaifenesin USP "expectorant", 200 mg" -> Since its just a decongestant of mucus, doesn't seem like something to worry about!
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    Originally Posted by aekest View Post
    In regards to the alternative Primatene, one of the ingredients is "guaifenesin USP "expectorant", 200 mg" -> Since its just a decongestant of mucus, doesn't seem like something to worry about!
    Definitely, man! Just take 10x the normal dose and tell us what color your puke is.
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    Originally Posted by xjdesertfox View Post
    Buy primatene next time, its HCL. Some people respond better to HCL, others the opposite.
    Primatene: ephedrine HCL 12.5 mg
    Bronkaid: Ephedrine Sulfate 25 mg.

    This is the dose it comes in.
    Primatene's 12.5mg dose > Bronkaids 25mg dose?
    Or did you mean
    25mg vs 25mg

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    If you continually take large amounts of guaifenesin for long periods of time you can end up getting stones in your urinarytract (urolithiasis). These are EXTREMELY painful...
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    I just bought two boxes of 25mg bronkaid from cvs also. I got rejected 3 times before I was successful on a purchase lol. Im an RN to btw, good to see other ones here!

    BTW, 25mg bronkaids suck imo. I usually buy ephedrine hcl in bulk, but I only needed a 3 week supply so I just tried these. Horrible, 25mg is like 10mg of my ephedrine hcl.. hell even weaker than 10mg for me.

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    What do you mean you got "rejected" 3 times?

    And btw that's why I buy primatene for the Ephedrine HCl content
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    Originally Posted by aekest View Post
    In regards to the alternative Primatene, one of the ingredients is "guaifenesin USP "expectorant", 200 mg" -> Since its just a decongestant of mucus, doesn't seem like something to worry about!
    bronkaid has the same expectorant in it as well

    Originally Posted by aekest View Post
    Primatene: ephedrine HCL 12.5 mg
    Bronkaid: Ephedrine Sulfate 25 mg.

    This is the dose it comes in.
    Primatene's 12.5mg dose > Bronkaids 25mg dose?
    Or did you mean
    25mg vs 25mg

    Edit:
    REPS to Crowler for putting it into perspective.
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    You double the dose on the prima, 2 pills.
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    That's so ridiculous we have to be 'regulated' because .01% of the population uses BRONKAID to make meth.
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    Numerics aside, I've used canadian pure hcl tabs and primatene/bronkaid and they are far from the same thing.


    The available mg used to be much higher but as mentioned because of the production, the 30mg tabs that you were able to purchase are now only available in 8 and 10mg quantities.


    24-32mg of pure hcl imho, feels like 50mg of bronkaid
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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
    Numerics aside, I've used canadian pure hcl tabs and primatene/bronkaid and they are far from the same thing.


    The available mg used to be much higher but as mentioned because of the production, the 30mg tabs that you were able to purchase are now only available in 8 and 10mg quantities.


    24-32mg of pure hcl imho, feels like 50mg of bronkaid
    I agree with that becuase 25mg of bronkaid only feels like 10mg of ephedrine HCL. I gave my bronkaid to my girl and was forced to order hcl.

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    Originally Posted by xjdesertfox View Post
    Buy primatene next time, its HCL. Some people respond better to HCL, others the opposite.
    while on the same cycle of EC could you alternate between HCL and sulfate lol?
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    Kaizen 8mg hcl from canada........actually cheaper than bronkaid and primatene if ordered thru rite site and buy in bulk
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    Originally Posted by mikaveli06 View Post
    Kaizen 8mg hcl from canada........actually cheaper than bronkaid and primatene if ordered thru rite site and buy in bulk
    agreed 100%.. i only went for bronkaid because I only needed a 2-3 week supply. I normally buy in bulk but don't have a point to right now. I use to take it when bulking pre-workout, but the pre-workout i am using now is strong enough for me as it is.

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    Originally Posted by 403Boss View Post
    In Canada you can buy it in every supplement store, even my gym sells Ephedrine HCL. They are legally only allowed to make them 8mg pills but its only 5 bucks for a bottle usually (50-60 pills if i remember right)
    Been researching the EC stack for a while now, can you buy this at Wal-Mart, and if Canada doesnt sell BronkAid, any idea's on the name? Thanks!
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    pharmacy clerk tracking your ass isnt normal... but on bronkaid it is.
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    I would be concerned about the guafenison.
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