arnold VS. Ronnie COLEMAN

**jay81** · 10-21-2002, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Muscle-Boy
you wanna see freaky?
this is freaky
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...scle_story.htm

This is a fake site.

**fsufanatik** · 10-22-2002, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by warchild
WHAT do you think is ronnie some what comparable to the "man" himself arnold or do you think that ronnie is still far yet behind the great icon, i personally thin that arnold at one point was one of the strongest people alive and could have killed coleman in the gym, any comments

you must be kidding??? you think Arnold can deadlift 800 for 2 reps? bent over rows of 450 for 8 reps???? hardly

**fsufanatik** · 10-22-2002, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Scar
Ronnie the retard WAS a powerlifter ....just not an amazing one, so he switched to bodybuilding. Same as Arnold and Franco....

lil bit of haterade going round'... probably a Cutler fan

**GettnHuge** · 10-22-2002, 03:09 AM

with arnold being as huge as he was at such an
early age...give him modern pharmaceuticals,
supplements, etc and the competition wouldnt
even be close. his pecs and biceps 30 years
ago are still better than any guy on stage today.
shoot his calves beat most competitors on stage
today! don't forget the crappy equipment they used
back then.

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle25.html

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle100.html

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle54.html

**Xtreme4Life** · 10-22-2002, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by fsufanatik
lil bit of haterade going round'... probably a Cutler fan

that's just the way scar is. he's currently trying to prove that a 75yr old man posting in the pics forum is lying about his pics. the george75's posts are genuine, and i don't think anybody would pretend to be a 75yr old man.........

**Xtreme4Life** · 10-22-2002, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by GettnHuge
with arnold being as huge as he was at such an
early age...give him modern pharmaceuticals,
supplements, etc and the competition wouldnt
even be close. his pecs and biceps 30 years
ago are still better than any guy on stage today.
shoot his calves beat most competitors on stage
today! don't forget the crappy equipment they used
back then.

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle25.html

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle100.html

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/muscle54.html

I agree 100%. those are some awesome pics bro!!! his biceps are sooo amazing

**Stabroz** · 10-22-2002, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by warchild
WHAT do you think is ronnie some what comparable to the "man" himself arnold or do you think that ronnie is still far yet behind the great icon, i personally thin that arnold at one point was one of the strongest people alive and could have killed coleman in the gym, any comments

so you want to compare the 2 right? most people here are just talking about who lifted this and who lifted that , but the main thing here is what has ronnie done?? i mean like someone posted b4 at the age of 20 arnie had done more thatn what most of us will achieve in a lifetime !!! what was ronnie donig at 20? how old is ronnie now like 35 or something?? lets think about what ronnie has done for the sport of bodybuilding............. nope cant think of SINGLE THING he has done , arnie promoted the sport of bodbybuilding when you say the word bodybuilder to ANYONE , they will most likely think of arnie straight away , people know arnie is

so what about ronnie , if i walk down the street and say " HEY do you know ronnie coleman " they will be like huh ? what ? who the **** are you talking about ?? and how old is he again ???

they are both great athletes , but if you are compareing the two as to who is the "greater" one , then arnie blasts ronnie into oblivion...

50 years from now , no one will really remember ronnie , but they will remember arnie !!!

**Blashy** · 10-22-2002, 04:05 AM

Arnold coudl not beat any pro these days because his body was not a chemical experiment.

PRO's today just plain look UGLY.

If they were on the same drugs as Arnold was on, it would probably be still Arnold's game.

Lee Haney, even with taking even MORE drugs than a Arnold and being bigger than him he is still much smaller than todays LAB rats.

As you can see I have no admiration for these guys. For one thing there muscles don't even look full.

**Xtreme4Life** · 10-22-2002, 04:13 AM

i agree with you on everything but this:

Originally posted by Blashy
For one thing there muscles don't even look full.

take a look at some of the pic from this year's Olympia!! they don't get any fuller than that............

**fsufanatik** · 10-22-2002, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by Xtreme4Life
that's just the way scar is. he's currently trying to prove that a 75yr old man posting in the pics forum is lying about his pics. the george75's posts are genuine, and i don't think anybody would pretend to be a 75yr old man.........

right on!

**GettnHuge** · 10-22-2002, 04:47 AM

more MORE MORE of the best ever
its sad that guys like coleman in the year 2002
dont even come close to calves like these.

http://web.tiscali.it/mrolympia/muscle671.html

and dont forget the wimpy back along with all his
other flaws( hahaha) that someone was referring to.

http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia/galle90.html

**Thomas** · 10-22-2002, 07:18 AM

You can't look better than this!

Ronnie looks sick, Arnold looks good.

**Roidy** · 10-22-2002, 08:29 AM

I dont care about who is better or not, but in reply to who will be remembered, saying that no1 will remember ronnie, only arnie, I think this is because arnie went into acting, so people are more familiar with him

If arnie had never done this, do u guys think he would be as known and as popular as he is today

**MIXSPEL** · 10-22-2002, 10:19 AM

ARNOLD RULEZZZZZZZZZZZ

**Mark21087** · 10-22-2002, 12:37 PM

1st of all, Arnold is only well known because he is a movie actor.

Whoever is comparing Arnold's calves to Ronnie's, Arnold may have him beat, but remember, black people geneticly don't have good calves, and they are Ronnie's weakest body parts.

So what does Arnold have on Ronnie? Calves? What does Ronnie have on Arnold? Back, shoulders, chest, arms, legs. Bottom line is, Ronnie is more symmetrical then Arnold, and he is alot bigger and alot more conditioned.

And don't blame it on roids, because we don't know what or how much Arnold was taking nor do we know how much Ronnie is taking

**Steinkalt** · 10-22-2002, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Mark21087
1st of all, Arnold is only well known because he is a movie actor.

Whoever is comparing Arnold's calves to Ronnie's, Arnold may have him beat, but remember, black people geneticly don't have good calves, and they are Ronnie's weakest body parts.

So what does Arnold have on Ronnie? Calves? What does Ronnie have on Arnold? Back, shoulders, chest, arms, legs. Bottom line is, Ronnie is more symmetrical then Arnold, and he is alot bigger and alot more conditioned.

And don't blame it on roids, because we don't know what or how much Arnold was taking nor do we know how much Ronnie is taking

Hey it's Jimmy the Greek! I'm just a naive white boy. Care to tell me why blacks have geneticaly inferior calves?

**Steinkalt** · 10-22-2002, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Mark21087
remember, black people geneticly don't have good calves,

Great they get the Dicks, we get the calves.

**Lats McGee** · 10-22-2002, 12:59 PM

I think it's funny everyone keeps talking about how Ronnie would be the best powerlifter if he quit bodybuilding. The fact is he isn't even the best powerlifter amoungst bodybuilders now as long as johnnie jackson is around.

**Mark21087** · 10-22-2002, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Steinkalt
Hey it's Jimmy the Greek! I'm just a naive white boy. Care to tell me why blacks have geneticaly inferior calves?

hmm...Name me a couple black people who have great calves? Besides Ronnie. Flex had to get fake ones because he couldn't build em up.

**Mark21087** · 10-22-2002, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Lats McGee
I think it's funny everyone keeps talking about how Ronnie would be the best powerlifter if he quit bodybuilding. The fact is he isn't even the best powerlifter amoungst bodybuilders now as long as johnnie jackson is around.

He could be the best powerlifter if he dedicated himself towards it. Johnie Jackson is strong, especially for his weight. However, Ronnie does most of his reps in the 12-15 range, which means he won't be as strong in the 1-3 range. If he did a crossover, he would be the greatest.

**Lats McGee** · 10-22-2002, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Mark21087
hmm...Name me a couple black people who have great calves? Besides Ronnie. Flex had to get fake ones because he couldn't build em up.

yeah because Vince Taylor's calves are so terrible, come on now.

**Scar** · 10-22-2002, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Lats McGee
I think it's funny everyone keeps talking about how Ronnie would be the best powerlifter if he quit bodybuilding. The fact is he isn't even the best powerlifter amoungst bodybuilders now as long as johnnie jackson is around.

Exactly Lats,

People also forget that Coleman WAS a powerlifter, he just wasn't good enough so turned to BB'ing.

I understand that he's Mr O and the young ones love him but come on, at least stop hero worshipping him with rose tinted spectacles on...he's not superman .

**Scar** · 10-22-2002, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Steinkalt
Great they get the Dicks, we get the calves.

LMFAO..Amen to that! Also they get to be faster,more powerful, better athletes and we can..um...swim better..GR8

**Mark21087** · 10-22-2002, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Lats McGee
yeah because Vince Taylor's calves are so terrible, come on now.

Wow, 1 bodybuilder out of how many?

People with small calves:

Shawn Ray
Chris Cormier
Darrem Charles
Victor Martinez
Melvin Anthony
Orville Burke

**Luke530** · 10-22-2002, 05:09 PM

like I said... arnold looks like he is the size of one of ronnie's legs... there is really no comparison... ronnie is better in every way... and he does not have an upperbody that overshadows his lower body like arnold

**Scar** · 10-22-2002, 05:28 PM

Why don't we all just agree to disagree? It's a subjective art..judging which is a better body. Some love the freaks,some prefer the overall,aesthetic package..that's just the way it is.

There is no objective criteria ..set in stone,that dictates the perfect body. There is just viewpoints,trends and a loose set of everchanging guidlines by which we judge. Luke,you can repost that picture of Coleman a thousand times but the guys who favor Arnold will not change...and vice versa.

**Luke530** · 10-22-2002, 05:47 PM

I agree... this will be a never ending post because it is all opinionated...

who is bigger - ronnie
who is stronger - ronnie
who uses more juice - probably ronnie
who has better genes - opinion
who is more symmetrical - opinion
who is more porportioned - opinion
who looks better - opinion
who has done more for the sport - arnie

**Scar** · 10-22-2002, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Luke530
I agree... this will be a never ending post because it is all opinionated...

who is bigger - ronnie
who is stronger - ronnie
who uses more juice - probably ronnie
who has better genes - opinion
who is more symmetrical - opinion
who is more porportioned - opinion
who looks better - opinion
who has done more for the sport - arnie

Nice post...

**Luke530** · 10-22-2002, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Scar
Nice post...

thanks

those are just basic things you cannot argue about... the other one's are infinately debatable...

**Mark21087** · 10-22-2002, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Luke530
thanks

those are just basic things you cannot argue about... the other one's are infinately debatable...

Yea, people will always say that Arnold's leg were proportional to his upper body

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