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    Hey Ed, quick question, do you have any links or quotes on what Dante recommends for weak body part training while doing DC?
    I don't but I'll see if I can find anything.
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    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post

    Rack Deads (bar at knee level)
    LT - N/A
    TT - 315 x 20 / 315 x 16
    Your strength can't be too off the mark, Ed. 315 x 36 reps


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    What Bill said. 36 reps @ 315???? Dang! I think you have plenty to strength to tap into. If that was unstrapped, even more so. Thats a LONG TIME to be holding that weight.
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    Originally Posted by BuckSpin View Post
    What Bill said. 36 reps @ 315???? Dang! I think you have plenty to strength to tap into. If that was unstrapped, even more so. Thats a LONG TIME to be holding that weight.
    I agree with Buck, that's an incredible lift. Sounds like strength to spare.

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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Your strength can't be too off the mark, Ed. 315 x 36 reps

    Just keep hittin' it.
    Originally Posted by BuckSpin View Post
    What Bill said. 36 reps @ 315???? Dang! I think you have plenty to strength to tap into. If that was unstrapped, even more so. Thats a LONG TIME to be holding that weight.
    Originally Posted by BergMuscle View Post
    I agree with Buck, that's an incredible lift. Sounds like strength to spare.
    Thanks guys for the supportive words! It helps a ton.

    Those are with straps Buck. My grip isn't that strong.
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    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post
    Thanks guys for the supportive words! It helps a ton. Those are with straps Buck. My grip isn't that strong.
    Well, since you mentioned tons, you moved 5 1/2 TONS in 2 sets!

    315x36=11340lbs!!!!

    And guessing a 4 second TUT per rep, thats almost 2 1/2 minutes you were holding that weight, straps or not.

    So, whatcha gonna make your working weight & reps for the next go round?
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    looks like you've been making great progress wish i was! out of school in 4 weeks & will have time to catch up if u r up 4 it.
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    Originally Posted by BuckSpin View Post
    Well, since you mentioned tons, you moved 5 1/2 TONS in 2 sets!

    315x36=11340lbs!!!!

    And guessing a 4 second TUT per rep, thats almost 2 1/2 minutes you were holding that weight, straps or not.

    So, whatcha gonna make your working weight & reps for the next go round?
    Plan next time is to get 325 for reps. I'm trying to stay away from low reps on my exercises. I have a tendency to bump weight before I should and it stalls me out. My rep range is 10-15 for upper and 15-20 for lower right now. My goal this rotation is to actually go beyond the top of those ranges with a working weight.

    Originally Posted by someday View Post
    looks like you've been making great progress wish i was! out of school in 4 weeks & will have time to catch up if u r up 4 it.
    Well....well! Where have you been? Good to see your still kicking around this place. Don't wish.....do!

    Hope all is well with you Shelli! School huh? For?

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    Chest and Triceps - 1A (Rotation 4 -Week 3 - Day 1)
    TT = this time
    LT = last time

    Barbell Incline Press
    LT - 135 x 16
    TT - 135 x 22

    HS Decline Bench
    LT - 210 x 12 / 210 x 7
    TT - 210 x 15 / 210 x 9

    Machine Shoulder Press
    LT - 180 x 12 / 180 x 8
    TT - 180 x 15 / 180 x 9

    BTB Cable Side Laterals (each arm)
    LT - 40 x 12
    TT - 40 x 16

    Hammer Strength Seated Dips
    LT - 260 x 11 / 260 x 7
    TT - 260 x 12 / 260 x 6

    OH DB Extensions
    LT - 80 x 10
    TT - 80 x 18

    Cardio:
    None today......

    Comments:
    Remind me to never bitch about losing some strength because of timing between certain exercises or time off in general. I'm amazed at what muscle memory can do and how quickly the body adapts and responds.

    Right off the bat, I was shocked at what I got on the incline presses. While I was very happy with what I got for reps on exercises, I'm stumped at the seated dips. They were the only awkward exercise out of everything.

    Likely keep weight the same on some of the exercises but will bump the weight on incline's for sure and look to get high reps on those before bumping again.

    Very happy with today's workout!!

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    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post
    Very happy with today's workout!!
    I should bloody hope so

    Great, no, awesome workout Ed!
    Taking the "less is more" approach to cardio...

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    Man, I've been gone awhile and shocked again by the number of reps at those weights you are doing. Keep it up.
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    Nice work, Ed; lots of substantial increases.

    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post

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    Remind me to never bitch about losing some strength because of timing between certain exercises or time off in general. I'm amazed at what muscle memory can do and how quickly the body adapts and responds.
    And you can be confident that it will always be this way, as long as all the other factors (medical, nutrition, and rest) are in order.

    Not that I would ever encourage or provide excuses to skip training, but if life happens, and you must miss, it's good to know that lost ground can be made up relatively quickly.
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    Originally Posted by alkell View Post
    I should bloody hope so

    Great, no, awesome workout Ed!
    Thanks Al!

    Originally Posted by storm1507 View Post
    Man, I've been gone awhile and shocked again by the number of reps at those weights you are doing. Keep it up.
    Shocked? Wow! Thanks! I intend on keeping it up.

    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Nice work, Ed; lots of substantial increases.

    And you can be confident that it will always be this way, as long as all the other factors (medical, nutrition, and rest) are in order.

    Not that I would ever encourage or provide excuses to skip training, but if life happens, and you must miss, it's good to know that lost ground can be made up relatively quickly.
    I was very happy to see the increases. I don't expect to see them in those #'s though next time but we'll see. I would imagine my first week back was tough on the muscles to get "back into shape".
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    TT = this time
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    Barbell Squats
    LT - 235 x 17 / 235 x 11
    TT - 235 x 20 / 235 x 11

    Hack Squats (machine)
    LT - 260 x 17
    TT - 260 x 20

    SLDL
    LT - 185 x 15 / 185 x 11
    TT - 185 x 18 / 185 x 12

    Standing Calves Raises
    LT - 360 x 16 / 360 x 10
    TT - 360 x 18 / 360 x 11

    Seated Calves Raises
    LT - 145 x 17 / 145 x 11
    TT - 145 x 18 / 145 x 12

    Cardio:
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    Should have posted this workout on Thursday but life gets in the way sometimes. This was Thursday's workout.

    Strength continuing to creep up there. Looking to take both bb and hack squats beyond 20 reps before I bump the weight. BB squats could have been done with a little better form on the last few sets but still happy with them.

    Calves are getting tougher for me lately. Not because of the weight but my feet. I've got some "stuff" going on on the soles of my feet. See a podiatrist who takes care of them but it only lasts short term. Surgery is an option but, according to doc, it's only successful about 60% of the time.

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    LT = last time

    WG Cable Pulldowns
    LT - 180 x 10 / 180 x 7
    TT - 180 x 12 / 180 x 8

    Barbell Rows
    LT - 165 x 12 / 165 x 8
    TT - 165 x 15 / 165 x 10

    Str8 Arm Cable Pressdowns
    LT - 130 x 15 / 130 x 11
    TT - 130 x 19 / 130 x 11

    Smith Shrugs
    LT - 110 x 12 / 110 x 7
    TT - 110 x 14 / 110 x 8

    Preacher Curls
    LT - 65 x 15 / 65 x 7
    TT - 65 x 18 / 65 x 7

    Lying Bicep Cable Curls
    LT - 100 x 15
    TT - 100 x 20

    Cardio:
    Elliptical
    30 minutes

    Comments:
    This was yesterday's workout.

    Felt good overall. Have a hard time with wg pulldowns but I'll keep working with them. Trying my best not to lean back as I pull so it ends up being mostly momentum instead of an actual pull by the back.

    Very happy with barbell rows. They feel real strong and could really feel my back doing most of the work.

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    Wow, the progress is back in a big way, good work Ed.

    Sorry to hear about your feet giving you trouble, it's frustrating when the body wont keep up with where the mind wants to go.

    What's giving your trouble with shrugs?
    Taking the "less is more" approach to cardio...

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    Good progress, across the board. Hope you get your foot issue squared-away.
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    Great numbers all around. Keep it up!

    Mind if I ask what kind of TUT you use?
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    Originally Posted by alkell View Post
    Wow, the progress is back in a big way, good work Ed.

    Sorry to hear about your feet giving you trouble, it's frustrating when the body wont keep up with where the mind wants to go.

    What's giving your trouble with shrugs?
    Thanks Al! Trouble with shrugs is too much arm movement. Need to keep my arms still while letting traps do the work. Like anything with me, my form goes to crap sometimes with movements cause my ego wants to go heavier and heavier and heavier.

    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Good progress, across the board. Hope you get your foot issue squared-away.
    Hope so too! Thanks Bill

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    Great numbers all around. Keep it up!

    Mind if I ask what kind of TUT you use?
    Frankly Buck, never really thought of it nor do I think I could accurately give you an answer.

    Best guess??

    2-1-2

    and that's only because 3-1-3 sounds too long up and down.

    Make sense??

    BTW.....thanks for the rack reps!! I don't know that I'd call them insane but thanks none the less.
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    Chest / Triceps - 1B (Rotation 4 - Week 4 - Day 1)
    TT = this time
    LT = last time

    Hammer Strength Wide Grip Chest Press
    LT - 180 x 19
    TT - 210 x 21

    Smith Flat Bench Press
    LT - 160 x 13 / 160 x 8
    TT - 160 x 13 / 160 x 7

    Smith Shoulder Press
    LT - 120 x 13 / 120 x 7
    TT - 120 x 17 / 120 x 9

    DB Side Laterals - Hanging
    LT - 30 x 20
    TT - 35 x 15

    Smith Close Grip Bench Press
    LT - 120 x 19 / 120 x 10
    TT - 125 x 17 / 125 x 18

    Rope Pressdowns
    LT - 110 x 13
    TT - 110 x 17

    Cardio:
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    Comments:
    Bizarre workout in that smith flat bench came no where close to what I was expecting given recent rep increases. Everything else went up except for that move. Stalled. Gonna give it one more go next time and take it from there.

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    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post
    Thanks Al! Trouble with shrugs is too much arm movement. Need to keep my arms still while letting traps do the work. Like anything with me, my form goes to crap sometimes with movements cause my ego wants to go heavier and heavier and heavier.
    I reckon most people who push themselves hard find this happening at times, it is a matter of catching it before it ends up in an injury or having the courage to drop the weight and get the feel in the muscle. Dropping the weight is not an easy thing to do.
    Taking the "less is more" approach to cardio...

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    Originally Posted by alkell View Post
    Dropping the weight is not an easy thing to do.
    No, it's not, but the old mantra, "It's not how much you lift, but how you lift it," still holds true, at least for bodybuilders.

    Good work, Ed. There are more increases than decreases.
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    Legs - 2B (Rotation 4 - Week 4 - Day 2)
    TT = this time
    LT = last time

    Smith Squats
    LT - 190 x 18 / 190 x 10
    TT - 190 x 21 / 190 x 12

    Leg Press
    LT - 560 x 17
    TT - 560 x 19

    Seated Leg Curls
    LT - 160 x 19 / 160 x 10
    TT - 160 x 22 / 160 x 13

    Calves - Toe Presses
    LT - 290 x 16 / 290 x 11
    TT - 290 x 19 / 290 x 11

    Calves - Seated Presses
    LT - 150 x 17 / 150 x 10
    TT - 150 x 18 / 150 x 13

    Cardio:
    None today.......

    Comments:
    Strong workout which is welcomed. Not much else to say about it. Good workout overall.

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    Good effort, Ed. Leg presses jump out at me. Leg curls, too; mega-reps!
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    "Good workout overall" it can't get any better than that. All those reps are killers.
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    Originally Posted by eddied27 View Post
    Strong workout which is welcomed. Not much else to say about it. Good workout overall.
    Progress on every exercise, I think you understate how fantastic that workout was, well to us mere mortals anyway
    Taking the "less is more" approach to cardio...

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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Good effort, Ed. Leg presses jump out at me. Leg curls, too; mega-reps!
    Appreciate it Bill

    Originally Posted by storm1507 View Post
    "Good workout overall" it can't get any better than that. All those reps are killers.
    They were but still wanting more

    Originally Posted by alkell View Post
    Progress on every exercise, I think you understate how fantastic that workout was, well to us mere mortals anyway
    Mere mortals huh? Ain't that a stretch. Appreciate the thought but maybe you should go back and re-read your journal there Aussie. Some pretty good weight being push/pulled in that thing.
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    Back / Biceps - 3B (Rotation 4 - Week 4 - Day 3)
    TT = this time
    LT = last time

    T-Bar Rows (bar weight not included)
    LT - 150 x 13 / 150 x 8
    TT - 150 x 16 / 150 x 10

    Hammer Strength Seated Rows (weight each side; done together)
    LT - 90 x 13 / 90 x 9
    TT - 90 x 18 / 90 x 12

    Rack Deads (bar at knee level)
    LT - 315 x 20 / 315 x 16
    TT - 325 x 20 / 325 x 12

    Drag Curls
    LT - 75 x 17 / 75 x 9
    TT - 75 x 20 / 75 x 11

    Side Head Cable Curls (weight each side)
    LT - 50 x 13
    TT - 50 x 16

    Cardio:
    Treadmill
    25 minutes

    Elliptical
    20 minutes

    Comments:
    This is the workout that I've been waiting for since I started this rotation 4 weeks ago. I blew through reps today. Really solid workout and I made a vid (see main O35 section; still be processed at Youtube as of time of this post ).

    What's interesting about this workout is that I thought it would suck after first set of t-bar rows. I thought I read 16 reps from last time and when I only got 16 I had to really work hard to not freak out. Went to the log book to record the 16 and saw 13 reps from last time instead of the 16 I thought I read.

    From there, workout took off. Very happy!

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    Wow, Ed; you blew the T-Bar and HammerStrength rows away! Maybe you should try to trick yourself every workout!

    You've gotta be happy with that workout--solid increases across the board.

    Seriously, Ed; you don't give yourself enough credit. You make steady progress on at least something, at every workout. Good job.
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