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    Getting Rid of Man Boobs

    Getting Rid of Man Boobs
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    So many things affect how we look and feel. The things we eat and the way we live really take its toll on our bodies and the way we form especially as we grow from children. Many people believe that getting rid of man boobs is just about exercise, but they couldn't be further from the truth. If you've grown up with them then you know what affect mentally and socially they may have on people. Men with man boobs will often feel intimidated when going for a swim and wear a shirt instead of bare skin. They may be embarrassed in any situation that makes them expose thier chests. They may even wear clothing that tends to hid their man boobs so that they appear less breast-like. Whatever the case may be, there are a few simple changes that can affect their total appearance.

    Beyond exercise, beyond how much fat intake we have or calories we ingest, there is something working against us that gives us man boobs. It is in plenty of the foods we eat and it is very hard to get away from. The main cause of man boobs are an imbalance of hormones in the body. Hormones control so many things in the body and they are so often overlooked. Hormones make us more manly or womanly, they take care of chemical reactions in the body, they make us happy or sad, they speed us up or slow us down. When it comes to abnormalities, hormones are often the culprit.

    We must watch the foods we eat that may contain hormones that cause these abnormalities such as man boobs. We also should be taking supplements that may help balance the hormones that are in our body. Getting rid of man boobs isn't easy going alone, it is important to do the research and look closely at yourself to determine what you are eating that may be contributing to this. Proper hormone balance may also affect your mental outlook and calm your nerves. Balancing your hormones may bring peace to your life and save you from being self-concious the next time you are in a position where you have to expose yourself.

    The first step is to start being a label watcher. Start eating organic and watch very closely to what is in the meat and dairy products that you normally eat. More often than not, hormones are given to farm animals to get larger or produce more milk. These hormones simply get transfered from the animal to you when you eat an animal being treated with this. Same concept applies to the milk and dairy you ingest. This is the first step to getting rid of man boobs for good.
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    Originally Posted by Jax019 View Post
    Getting Rid of Man Boobs
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    So many things affect how we look and feel. The things we eat and the way we live really take its toll on our bodies and the way we form especially as we grow from children. Many people believe that getting rid of man boobs is just about exercise, but they couldn't be further from the truth. If you've grown up with them then you know what affect mentally and socially they may have on people. Men with man boobs will often feel intimidated when going for a swim and wear a shirt instead of bare skin. They may be embarrassed in any situation that makes them expose thier chests. They may even wear clothing that tends to hid their man boobs so that they appear less breast-like. Whatever the case may be, there are a few simple changes that can affect their total appearance.

    Beyond exercise, beyond how much fat intake we have or calories we ingest, there is something working against us that gives us man boobs. It is in plenty of the foods we eat and it is very hard to get away from. The main cause of man boobs are an imbalance of hormones in the body. Hormones control so many things in the body and they are so often overlooked. Hormones make us more manly or womanly, they take care of chemical reactions in the body, they make us happy or sad, they speed us up or slow us down. When it comes to abnormalities, hormones are often the culprit.

    We must watch the foods we eat that may contain hormones that cause these abnormalities such as man boobs. We also should be taking supplements that may help balance the hormones that are in our body. Getting rid of man boobs isn't easy going alone, it is important to do the research and look closely at yourself to determine what you are eating that may be contributing to this. Proper hormone balance may also affect your mental outlook and calm your nerves. Balancing your hormones may bring peace to your life and save you from being self-concious the next time you are in a position where you have to expose yourself.

    The first step is to start being a label watcher. Start eating organic and watch very closely to what is in the meat and dairy products that you normally eat. More often than not, hormones are given to farm animals to get larger or produce more milk. These hormones simply get transfered from the animal to you when you eat an animal being treated with this. Same concept applies to the milk and dairy you ingest. This is the first step to getting rid of man boobs for good.
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    More like eating at a calorie deficit. You can run all you want, if you are not eating at a deficit you won't help your moobs.
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    Oh yeah . Thanks you share info nice .
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    Originally Posted by Jax019 View Post
    Getting Rid of Man Boobs
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    The first step is to start being a label watcher. Start eating organic and watch very closely to what is in the meat and dairy products that you normally eat. More often than not, hormones are given to farm animals to get larger or produce more milk. These hormones simply get transfered from the animal to you when you eat an animal being treated with this. Same concept applies to the milk and dairy you ingest. This is the first step to getting rid of man boobs for good.
    Well, that's a start but there are more important diet considerations than the minor estrogenic content of some meat or dairy products. And the beneficial effect of eating red meat for your testosterone level probably outweighs the potential hormone content. Before you start buying only grass-fed beef and eliminating dairy (which is a good idea), here's some more important things:

    Eliminate the top sources of dietary estrogens (phytoestrogens):
    - no soy products or tofu or soybean oil
    - no flax seed or oil
    - no beer or anything else containing hops

    Other foods that should be eliminated for their effect on hormone balance are all trans fats (hydrogenated oils) and sugar. Minimize sweets and foods with added sugars. Also watch your PUFA intake by minimizing foods made with or cooked with seed oils.

    Then eliminate major sources of endocrine disruptors from your personal products:
    - parabens or phthalates (in many deodorants, lotions, lip balms, etc). There are good natural products without these.
    - BPAs from plastics - don't heat or store food in plastic or use plastic water bottles
    - sodium lauryl sulfate (in many toothpastes, shampoos, etc). There are good natural products without it.

    Search xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens to get more detail and other minor sources.

    After eliminating those things, then make sure you get plenty of cruciferous veggies in your diet. Broccoli, cabbage, cauliflour, brussels sprouts. You can also take DIM supplements but I prefer to get it from food.

    After you take care of the diet, the next big thing is to get the right kind of exercise. You need some high intensity training (HIT) to build testosterone, and stop doing aerobics. Do interval runs instead of long jogs (one minute hard then one minute recovery, repeat for at least 20 minutes).

    Get plenty of rest, your body makes testosterone during sleep. If you aren't waking up with morning wood, sleep longer.

    And you need weight training, which will give you a double whammy against man boobs. Weight training will increase your testosterone, and building pecs will flatten and cover up the man boobs, making them look a lot better.

    Lastly and probably most obvious, is just lose weight and reduce body fat overall. Read Gary Taubes "Why We Get Fat" and then eliminate refined carbs from your diet. And if you want all the research details then get his much longer book "Good Calories Bad Calories". Both books describe and reference the extensive worldwide diet research that debunks the old lipid hypothesis and the saturated fat myths.

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    I'm one who developed boobs in puberty and then kept them for years. My diet growing up was all wrong and my hormones were all out of whack for years. Now they aren't, and I got rid of my man boobs at 50 years old and got in the best shape of my life. For years I longed to get the expensive surgery, but then I found out the causes of the problem and fixed them. Even the lumpy glandular tissue went away, not just the fat. I went from >25% to 13% body fat, fixed my diet, lost 50 lbs, and went from low T levels to high normal. All in about a year, by doing what I describe above.
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    Originally Posted by Thrqne View Post
    More like eating at a calorie deficit. You can run all you want, if you are not eating at a deficit you won't help your moobs.
    Well, it's one way, but a calorie deficit isn't necessary to lose fat weight and isn't a sustainable lifestyle when you get to your target. The old calories-in-calories-out theory has been known to be wrong for years but the myth persists. Also, aerobic exercise including light running (jogging) reduces T levels relative to estrogen levels. Do anerobic and HIT instead.
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    Well, it's one way, but a calorie deficit isn't necessary to lose fat weight and isn't a sustainable lifestyle when you get to your target. The old calories-in-calories-out theory has been known to be wrong for years but the myth persists. Also, aerobic exercise including light running (jogging) reduces T levels relative to estrogen levels. Do anerobic and HIT instead.
    Please provide sources for your claims. Id love to read those studies.
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Please provide sources for your claims. Id love to read those studies.
    I'll give you some, but at work right now and have to look them up. They aren't hard to find, there's lot's of stuff on the relationship between type of exercise and hormone balance / T levels. There's also lots of stuff on when/how/why you store or burn off fat, and it's mostly related to insulin.
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    Well, it's one way, but a calorie deficit isn't necessary to lose fat weight and isn't a sustainable lifestyle when you get to your target. The old calories-in-calories-out theory has been known to be wrong for years but the myth persists.
    More specifically, this is what im interested in.
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    Well, it's one way, but a calorie deficit isn't necessary to lose fat weight and isn't a sustainable lifestyle when you get to your target. The old calories-in-calories-out theory has been known to be wrong for years but the myth persists. Also, aerobic exercise including light running (jogging) reduces T levels relative to estrogen levels. Do anerobic and HIT instead.
    If you dont need a calorie deficit to lose fat then WHY would you be in a calorie deficit ever? To lose muscle?
    Exercise and cardio doesnt make you lose fat, calorie deficit does, and always will unless someone's body does not obey the rules of the universe.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?
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    In other news, the laws of thermodynamics have been disproven. It turns out matter and energy can accumulate in a vacuum.

    It was also revealed that transmutation is real -- how else would you account for air and water turning into fat? It's either that or people's bodies can suddenly eat through osmosis.

    "I didn't *eat* 'em donuts -- I just sniffed the deliciousness that was wafting in my general direction, and them calories somehow entered my body, and turned into fat."
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    If you dont need a calorie deficit to lose fat then WHY would you be in a calorie deficit ever? To lose muscle?
    Exercise and cardio doesnt make you lose fat, calorie deficit does
    The first part of your last sentence is usually right and the second part is sometimes right.

    There are multiple studies showing that cutting calories in total but keeping too high a proportion from refined carbs and starchy foods will cause insulin resistance and change your metabolism, resulting in more fat being stored in fat cells while eating fewer calories than your prior equilibrium intake. Conversely you can change your intake to a healthier mix (no refined carbs and starchy foods) while keeping total caloric intake constant, and start losing weight without changing total calories consumed. These are pretty well established facts, not my opinion.

    I forgive the snarky replies as just ignorance, many health professionals still believe the myths too.
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    You can eat whatever you want, its ALL about calories, or units of energy that all living organisms have to abide by. All of those "studies" go out the window when you talk about weight loss in dogs who just eat dog food, its all about calories.
    A carb is a carb, when it is broken down, all carbs end up being the same. There is no such thing as "healthy" or "unhealthy" food.

    What i said is correct, exercise just raises your TDEE. You can do all the exercise in the world but if you are still eating too many calories, you will never lose weight, period.
    Also the word metabolism, people dont even know what that even is. They think eating certain foods "raise" it, without understanding what metabolism is (processes your body goes through to sustain itself, krebs/citric acid cycle, thermoregulation, etc...)

    Again it doesnt matter if you are eating whole wheat bread that ends up as 2000 calories, or cheetos that ends up at 2000 calories, if you need 2500 calories to maintain your weight, then you would lose 1 pound per week. I know everyone wants to believe eating stupid chicken and brown rice makes them better than someone or they believe in something that they did and claimed it worked for them when it wasnt the cause, but calories always win.
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    The first part of your last sentence is usually right and the second part is sometimes right.

    There are multiple studies showing that cutting calories in total but keeping too high a proportion from refined carbs and starchy foods will cause insulin resistance and change your metabolism, resulting in more fat being stored in fat cells while eating fewer calories than your prior equilibrium intake. Conversely you can change your intake to a healthier mix (no refined carbs and starchy foods) while keeping total caloric intake constant, and start losing weight without changing total calories consumed. These are pretty well established facts, not my opinion.

    I forgive the snarky replies as just ignorance, many health professionals still believe the myths too.
    Personally, I recommend activated almonds with emu balls for that extra oomph.
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    The first part of your last sentence is usually right and the second part is sometimes right.

    There are multiple studies showing that cutting calories in total but keeping too high a proportion from refined carbs and starchy foods will cause insulin resistance and change your metabolism, resulting in more fat being stored in fat cells while eating fewer calories than your prior equilibrium intake. Conversely you can change your intake to a healthier mix (no refined carbs and starchy foods) while keeping total caloric intake constant, and start losing weight without changing total calories consumed. These are pretty well established facts, not my opinion.

    I forgive the snarky replies as just ignorance, many health professionals still believe the myths too.
    You have yet to produce one study to back these claims.

    I wouldn't call any of these claims you made well established facts.

    I would also like you to explain how T and what foods I eat havent mattered in my own weight loss. If these facts are well established, why don't they apply to me?
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    Originally Posted by OldNewGuy View Post
    There are multiple studies showing that cutting calories in total but keeping too high a proportion from refined carbs and starchy foods will cause insulin resistance and change your metabolism, resulting in more fat being stored in fat cells while eating fewer calories than your prior equilibrium intake. Conversely you can change your intake to a healthier mix (no refined carbs and starchy foods) while keeping total caloric intake constant, and start losing weight without changing total calories consumed. These are pretty well established facts, not my opinion.
    Can you link some of these studies?
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    Well, I regret that my secondary comment about weight loss has hijacked the thread now, when the original topic is an important one worthy of dedicated discussion.

    Being new here I didn't know the "carbohydrate hypothesis" was still so controversial, even after the past few years have seen a hundred books on the topic (many by doctors and scientists). So for a few well-cited works with huge bibliographies of research supporting that hypothesis I would simply refer you to the books by Taubes, Cordain, and Hartwig.

    I'll be happy to continue that tangent in the appropriate threads, and again I apologize for the derail. I'll continue supporting the ideas in original post, here.
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