Strength and Size training question.

[RuVe]

Do you guys think its a good idea to strength train with 1-4 reps untill you get to your peak strength then start doing size training with 8-12 reps with higher weights than what you could have done before you strength trained?

[BDiamond]

Do you guys think its a good idea to strength train with 1-4 reps untill you get to your peak strength then start doing size training with 8-12 reps with higher weights than what you could have done before you strength trained?

I like to go in 8-12 week cycles of strength, size and toning routines. So after doing 8 weeks or so of strength training (4-8 reps) I'll take a week off or de-load and then start a size program (8-12 reps).

[MWheatley]

I like to go in 8-12 week cycles of strength, size and toning routines. So after doing 8 weeks or so of strength training (4-8 reps) I'll take a week off or de-load and then start a size program (8-12 reps).

I do the same.

Hypertrophy phase for me is 6-12 reps focusing on adding overall volume per week.

[matjusm]

Do you guys think its a good idea to strength train with 1-4 reps untill you get to your peak strength then start doing size training with 8-12 reps with higher weights than what you could have done before you strength trained?

Who says the two are mutually exclusive? Look at NFL players: the guys are built like beasts and strong like beasts. You don't have to choose one or the other, the two can be trained simultaneously.

You could for example do 5x3 of say flat bench press to develop maximal strength and then do 3x10 db presses for higher rep work. Size and strength go hand in hand.

[MWheatley]

Who says the two are mutually exclusive? Look at NFL players: the guys are built like beasts and strong like beasts. You don't have to choose one or the other, the two can be trained simultaneously.

You could for example do 5x3 of say flat bench press to develop maximal strength and then do 3x10 db presses for higher rep work. Size and strength go hand in hand.

Im curious as to why you wouldnt want to put your full focus on a specific goal. Yes you can do exactly what you said and see results in both fields, but what would your arguement be against having a more specifically tailored routine?

[RuVe]

Thanks for the comments guys

[nugget5]

Im curious as to why you wouldnt want to put your full focus on a specific goal. Yes you can do exactly what you said and see results in both fields, but what would your arguement be against having a more specifically tailored routine?

As to answer your question. If you aren't looking to specifically do one or the other and you would like to train at the same time and get gradual strength and size, this could work for you. Take wendlers 531 program for example

[tha shredda]

Do you guys think its a good idea to strength train with 1-4 reps untill you get to your peak strength then start doing size training with 8-12 reps with higher weights than what you could have done before you strength trained?

Actually I like doing this, esp on leg day. Ex: Ill do 3 sets of progressively heavier squats with a 3 rep scheme (3rd set getting more than 3 reps if possible, but heavy enough to where I cant get more than 5-6), and then drop weight and do a couple sets of an 8-12 rep range. This makes the lighter weight feel better, and the reps feel better than if I would have done the 8-12 rep range weight 1st. This helps with the leg exercises following as well.

This works for many diff exercises. I like it for barbell squat and barbell upright press the most.