Powertec Power Rack (it weighs 385 lbs!), is this one recommended?

**agent8698** · 09-24-2002, 10:35 AM

It weighs more than twice as much as this newyorkbarbells.com "super" power rack:

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92551.html

How is that possible? Does Powertec use a gauge of steel that is more than twice as heavy? Max

sorry, I forgot to post the link for the Powertec Power Rack; here it is: http://www.megafitness.com/exercise/...rack-p-pr.html

**Wildcat33** · 09-24-2002, 11:54 AM

I'm researching power racks/cages and plan on buying one within a week. I saw that too while researching the Powertec, 385 lbs. seems like a misprint. Most of these things weigh well under 200 lbs. without a lat attachment. The Powertec is made of the same diameter tubing as the Body Solid but is listed as weighing more than twice as much.

This is what I'm looking for in a rack:
1) Spotter bars that can handle 500+ lbs.
2) Pegs/bar holders that can be put on the inside or outside
3) Built in chin bar that can do both wide and narrow grip
4) Dip handles
5) Lat attachment comes standard with it or can be added later

If the rack has pushup bars, plate holders, or an angled chin bar that's a plus, but not required. Here are some interesting ones I've found, that are reasonably priced:

http://www.megafitness.com/pow0023-s...rack-p-pr.html
Looks good, but I can't find anyone who is selling the lat attachment even though it supposedly exists. Seems like the dip handles might be too far apart, and don't see any way to do close grip chins unless the handle is on the inside where the picture can't show it.

http://www.esportsales.com/cgi-local...product=PC-850
Fits all requirements but it may not handle heavy weight. Going to email their customer service and get specs. One nice thing is that is has clamps for a multi-purpose bench. If it can handle a reasonable amount of weight for squatting I'll probably buy this one and a multi-purpose bench to go in it.

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92561.html
No lat attachment made that I know of, no dip station, and looking at weight it doesn't seem any heavier than the "Body by Jake" rack above.

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92562.html
http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92551.html
same as above for both of these

http://www.completefitnessequip.com/racks.html
This one's got it all but it would cost roughly $800 for everything.

http://www.fitnessfactory.com/Fitnes...ction&linkid=3
Good but no dip bars and they can't be added. Dip bars can be added with the pro version but it gets pricey quick as you add the lat attachment & dip bars.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...3A4134%3A49040
No dip bars or lat attachment available, and probably can't handle heavy weight?

Hopefully Mr. Blue can give some insight, he seems to be the resident home gym expert.

**ctgblue** · 09-24-2002, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Wildcat33 I'm researching power racks/cages and plan on buying one within a week. I saw that too while researching the Powertec, 385 lbs. seems like a misprint. Most of these things weigh well under 200 lbs. without a lat attachment. The Powertec is made of the same diameter tubing as the Body Solid but is listed as weighing more than twice as much.

This is what I'm looking for in a rack:
1) Spotter bars that can handle 500+ lbs.
2) Pegs/bar holders that can be put on the inside or outside
3) Built in chin bar that can do both wide and narrow grip
4) Dip handles

DO NOT let the dip handles be a requirement, the all suck compared to a stand alone station.

5) Lat attachment comes standard with it or can be added later

If the rack has pushup bars, plate holders, or an angled chin bar that's a plus, but not required. Here are some interesting ones I've found, that are reasonably priced:

http://www.megafitness.com/pow0023-s...rack-p-pr.html
Looks good, but I can't find anyone who is selling the lat attachment even though it supposedly exists. Seems like the dip handles might be too far apart, and don't see any way to do close grip chins unless the handle is on the inside where the picture can't show it.

You can do close grip chins the width of the front label, no lat attach, looks solid, but it DOES NOT weigh 385, maybe with 225 in the rack it does.

http://www.esportsales.com/cgi-local...product=PC-850
Fits all requirements but it may not handle heavy weight. Going to email their customer service and get specs. One nice thing is that is has clamps for a multi-purpose bench. If it can handle a reasonable amount of weight for squatting I'll probably buy this one and a multi-purpose bench to go in it.

Body By Jake = Light duty crap, wasted money if you can lift even bodyweight. Made for wannabees. Put this together and I can rip it apart in 10 minutes with no tools.

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92561.html
No lat attachment made that I know of, no dip station, and looking at weight it doesn't seem any heavier than the "Body by Jake" rack above.

Much sturdier than above but no options

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92562.html
http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92551.html
same as above for both of these

Both of these are quite sturdy, according to my conversations with the mfg last year. Good steel, but have NOT seen one in person

http://www.completefitnessequip.com/racks.html
This one's got it all but it would cost roughly $800 for everything.

Sturdy, but I don't like these type of spotters, can't really work Outside the cage, prefer the one below.

http://www.fitnessfactory.com/Fitnes...ction&linkid=3
Good but no dip bars and they can't be added. Dip bars can be added with the pro version but it gets pricey quick as you add the lat attachment & dip bars.

This is solid, have tried one, impressed but did not like the depth. Unable to do inclines off the back rails unless you loop the bench leg over the back (can't do with lat attach)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...3A4134%3A49040
No dip bars or lat attachment available, and probably can't handle heavy weight?

Hangs head in shame for wildcat

Give me 3 minutes and I can rip THIS one apart with no tools. Seriously, you get what you pay for, if you are 14 and 120lbs and squat bodyweight it's fine, other than that, NOT!

Hopefully Mr. Blue can give some insight, he seems to be the resident home gym expert. [/B]

Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Why do I know this much.
I shopped for over a year for a home gym. (got a YorkBarbell Light Commercial Smith, besides the point)
I think the worst investment is a BAD piece of home workout equipt that is shaky, too small, limited attachments, etc.. so it doesn't do what YOU WANT.
I like the Bodysolid Rack and the bigger Newyork Barbell ones
Also, try to get THIS kind of bench
http://www.fitnessfactory.com/Fitnes...tion&linkid=16
Much better than the pop pin type, VERY STURDY. I've got the York BB equivalent.
Buy the best you can afford, if you can go and lay your hands on one, thats better.
Try it with the bench in there, and put a bar in the hooks to try all the different lift off positions.
DON'T TAKE ANY CRAP for the salesperson, let them know you will be using this about 4 hours a week for years and you want to make sure it will work.
If they are dicks, get the boss.
I didn't have this problem but I'm an old BIG guy
Here's an all in one, expensive but has everything you want and the lat attach is far enough back that you can loop the bench leg over the back rail.
http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/4360.html

Good Luck guys, let me know what you get and how you like it please, so everyone can benefit.

**agent8698** · 09-24-2002, 08:15 PM

Thank you for your insights, ctgblue, they have been very helpful so far. Perhaps you could also comment on the Nautilus power rack NT 1200:

http://www.nautilusfitnessproducts.c...p?searchid=lg#

and what about this electric rack:

http://www.prospotfitness.com/videos.htm

I saw that in a store, and it looks interesting. When you grab the bar, you interrupt an electrical current, which tells the machine to release its hold on the bar. As soon as you let go, the machine automatically grabs the bar again. Is this the future for power racks? Do you see any problem with it (besides price)? Thanks, Max

**ctgblue** · 09-24-2002, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by agent8698 Thank you for your insights, ctgblue, they have been very helpful so far. Perhaps you could also comment on the Nautilus power rack NT 1200:

http://www.nautilusfitnessproducts.c...p?searchid=lg#

Too shallow, cannot get the back foot of the bench far enough back to do incline bench from the rear rack pins

and what about this electric rack:

http://www.prospotfitness.com/videos.htm

I saw that in a store, and it looks interesting. When you grab the bar, you interrupt an electrical current, which tells the machine to release its hold on the bar. As soon as you let go, the machine automatically grabs the bar again. Is this the future for power racks? Do you see any problem with it (besides price)? Thanks, Max

Too gimmicky. Bound to fail eventually. I'd take a smith over it any day.
I still like my choices above, especially for the money.
If you have money to spend, look at YorkBarbell Rack, TuffStuff, and Hoist.
But for dollar value, the NYBB and Bodysolid are good buys.
I would opt for the NYBB rack gym.
It was my second or third choice when I bought. If I could've gotten hands on, probably would have it now

**Wildcat33** · 09-25-2002, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by ctgblue
DO NOT let the dip handles be a requirement, the all suck compared to a stand alone station.

Please elaborate, I haven't tried any of the rack dip handles. None of the retailers around where I live stock racks, it's all special order. Got a dip station on a Dyna-pak bench in my home gym that works great, but that bench will be sold as soon as I buy a rack and multi-purpose bench. I'd prefer not to have to buy a tower.

Originally posted by ctgblue
Good Luck guys, let me know what you get and how you like it please, so everyone can benefit.

Will do, thanks for the advice. I may pm or email later with some home gym ideas if you don't mind. Planning on making some purchases within a week.

**twinturbo** · 09-25-2002, 05:45 PM

I have seen the nautilus rack and it is very sturdy. If you look at the back of the rack the lat attachment is extended back, it does not go straight across like most of the others. This does make more useable room in the rack. If you want to do inclines assemble the rack with the pins on the front rack. The lat/low row is superior than most of the others. It is very smooth, look at the picture it has 2 guide rods not a square tube with another square tube riding on it creating friction. The low row has solid foot platforms. The pullup is not just a straight bar it is two bars one from either side that turn and insert into the front crossmember. This allows wide grip pullups and narrow grip with palms facing each other. I am still looking but so far this is the nicest I have put my hands on if only because of the pulley system and increased room in the rack.

**agent8698** · 09-25-2002, 07:58 PM

Thanks twinturbo, sounds good, every little bit of info adds up and helps. I'm itching to buy a rack now, but I'm going to hold off for another week or two and learn as much as I can in the meantime.

While searching for a power rack, I came across a company called Samson, which I hadn't heard of before. It turns out that's what President Bush uses in the White House Gym, and also at his ranch in Texas. They have an interesting website:

http://www.samsonequipment.com/index2.htm

They have a 9-foot power rack made with 7-gauge steel. I don't even want to know how much THAT costs. Here it is:

http://www.samsonequipment.com/111phh.htm

Here's the open rack used by President Bush:

http://www.samsonequipment.com/hdfs.htm

And here's a high-resolution 360 degree panoramic photo of the inside of the San Diego Aztec Training Center, full of Samson gear (70 yards long, ceiling height 25 feet):

http://www.samsonequipment.com/sdsu360pano.htm

Awesome stuff. And here's Dr. Squat's "Ultimate Power Rack":

http://www.drsquat.com/index.cfm?act...uipmentID=1301

Nice gear, way out of my league though (and out of my price range), I'm just a beginner. Still trying to decide from among the affordable recommended brands. Max

**ctgblue** · 09-26-2002, 03:44 AM

Before you consider that, make sure that if you do inclines from the front of the rack, you can turn the bench around.
You DO NOT want to have to reach forward to unrack the weight as it will really torque the shoulders
Not having seen it I can't comment about the space inside but you need to be able to lift off over the head and bring forward for all pressing movements.

**Wildcat33** · 09-26-2002, 08:04 AM

Going to keep researching and think about it a few more days, but right now this is what I plan on going with:

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92551.html
Should have plenty of room for deadlifts, cleans, etc. with the extra depth. 400 lb. capacity lat attachment is available for $200. Rear baseplate is moved back a little on this rack, should allow a few more inches to push the bench in for back of rack work? Only thing I don't like is that the chin bar isn't angled for wide grip chins. If that becomes a problem there are aftermarket angled bars that can be hung on the existing bar. A moot point if I end up getting a tower instead of the dip attachment below.

http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/9259.html
Haven't decided yet on this attachment or a separate tower.

This bench:
http://www.fitnessrus.com/marab4000brm.html
800 lb. capacity, should work. Cheap enough that if I end up not liking it for heavy work I'd still keep it as a dumbbell/preacher bench.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this setup.

Thanks

**D&G** · 09-26-2002, 08:24 AM

I'd love to have that little lot to use whenever I wanted at home

**agent8698** · 09-26-2002, 09:56 PM

I found a couple more power racks to consider, this one is made by Bodycraft:

http://www.home-gym-direct.com/home_...raining_System

You can zoom in to a high-resolution photo of it, very nice, all the other companies give you barely more than a thumbnail on their websites, especially Tuff Stuff with their TPR-265 Power Rack: I can't get a good look at it anywhere on the internet, every site that sells it just uses the same inadequate (tiny) photo.

And this is a Deltech power rack:

http://bestbuyfitness.freetilitsells...p?intProdID=18

It says that the uprights are only about 25 inches apart, that's not very much, is it? I wonder what I need to know about inside and outside dimensions in a power rack?

**ctgblue** · 09-27-2002, 08:20 AM

Neither of those are a better deal than the ones above IMO.

**Lotsosquats** · 09-27-2002, 06:44 PM

What about Yukon equipment? They have a power rack (PKR200) that can have a lat attachment added for 189.00 (Rack is 298.00). Says it can hold 800lbs. Anyone used Yukon stuff? Ctgblue, any opinion of this stuff? They don't have a picture of the new rack but the old one is there and the lat attachment mounts on the back.

www.yukon-fitness.com

**ctgblue** · 09-27-2002, 09:00 PM

Decent size
These were my criteria, it put me up a price notch but I felt it was worth it.
Tubing of 11-12 gauge steel, reinforcement plate of 7-8 gauge steel.
Most of the above items are 14 gauge with 10-11 gauge reinforcements
These are good items but I have actually had over 400 on my smith on squats and I like the peace of mind that comes from STEEL.
I looked at the Yukon Smith, too small, the PR looks as good as any of the others and I like the pins with the flanged ends.
I DO NOT like the fact that there is only ONE 'sturdy' cross support on the top, the front is just a chin bar, as opposed to the BodSol with a heavy duty chin/support bar or the double support NYB racks.
Stability is the key to safety and longevity.
Now you fukkers got me wanting a power rack too, DAMN YOU!!!

Don't forget plenty of this, I can't help myself

**Wildcat33** · 09-30-2002, 08:46 AM

Well, I ordered my rack this morning

It came down to the NY Barbell standard rack, the Nautilus (which I could get for $490 from a local dealer who has it in stock), and the Yukon. Decided against the Nautilus because you can't work outside or on the front inside of the rack because of how the holders are made ... the Nautilus is fairly pricey too. The NYBarbell rack was right there, but a couple minor details made me choose the Yukon. I wrote off the NYBB Super Power Rack a few days ago after talking to one of their engineers and finding out it will not accept their attachments. I ordered the Yukon PR from alphafitnessequipment.com in Louisiana. They were at least $20 cheaper than anyone else after shipping, and assured me on the phone that they'll be shipping the new model that accepts attachments and has the chrome pins/holders.

Researched the Yukon a few weeks ago and wrote it off since there were no attachments. But Lotsosquats post about the new model made me take another look. If everything looks right when it shows up at the house I'm also going to order the lat attachment, rowing footplate, and a dip station from NY Barbell. Should fit on this PR.

I like the angled chin bar and the available attachments. I like the flanged bar holder style and numbered holes are not necessary but nonetheless I like them. Should be able to work outside or in with this unit, and there's a few inches extra room to push the bench into the back. It has 1 1/4" spotter pins which is 1/4" thicker than most models. The stabilization plates should keep it from moving around too much, some of the other racks I've seen don't have 'em. I've seen 800 lb. listed capacity on the pins on one website, and 1,000 on another but either way it should be enough. The tubing is 12 gauge, a little thicker than most of the other low priced racks. Other than there not being enough room for good mornings, this unit fits all my requirements. My wife thinks it's "ugly" and thought the Nautilus "looked cool", but function over form right?

If anyone is interested I'll post some high quality digital camera pics and my take on the rack as soon as it shows up.

**ctgblue** · 09-30-2002, 11:04 AM

Just make sure to set your camera for "email" mode as the largest pic you can attach is 100k.
But yes, do take some, give some measurements and feedback concerning the ability to do inclines and militaries.
Good luck
NOW YOU'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM!!!!
NO excuse for not getting in a workout.

**Wildcat33** · 09-30-2002, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by ctgblue
Just make sure to set your camera for "email" mode as the largest pic you can attach is 100k.

Thanks for the heads up, didn't know there was a 100k limit. I work as an IT Manager and have 50 MB of "play" space on a serious webserver for ebay pics, code testing, and stuff. I'll probably drop the pics on there and add links so they don't have to be compressed/cropped much. Should have the PR in a week or so.

Originally posted by ctgblue
NOW YOU'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM!!!!
NO excuse for not getting in a workout.

I got no choice. The closest gym worth going to is 30 minutes away, and not near my work or home. And I usually work out late at night. Used to work out at a decent Y in Nashville, there were a few serious people there and the atmosphere was ok as long as you stayed away from the 3-6 kid/cardio crowd. The free weight area was separate and usually not crowded. But we built a new house in the country. Right now my equipment is stuffed into my home office, and some that won't fit is in the garage. Finishing some square footage on the top floor right now and when it's done a big room on the lower floor is being freed up to use exclusively for working out. I'll post some pics in a couple months when my equipment is moved in. Can hardly wait

I prefer working out at home anyway. Can go shirtless and shoeless if I feel like it, listen to any type of music, nutrition is just a flight of stairs away, no driving, no waiting on equipment, the "gym" is never closed, no monthly fees, no sweaty pigs leaving the machine I'm about to use without wiping it off, etc.

Thanks for the advice all, been a big help in making my decisions.

**agent8698** · 09-30-2002, 09:55 PM

This has been an interesting thread, I feel like I've learned a lot. Here are some more links I found while searching for a power rack:

somebody's homemade dip bar system attached to Body-Solid WPR78 power rack: http://members.aol.com/dnvrfox/famsprts.htm

photos of a homemade power rack:
http://www.roxboro.net/tommy/rack.htm

plans for a homemade squat rack:
http://www.theministryoffitness.com/.../article11.htm

website that sells parts that can be used for homemade racks: http://www.bwproducts.com/fitness/we...arts/index.htm

the Reflex power rack (scoll to the bottom for links to photos): http://www.net1.net/users/trigg/REFL...PRODUCTS1.html

**ctgblue** · 10-01-2002, 07:21 AM

There's a LOT of REALLY GOOD stuff out there.
Unfortunately it is hard to find as some of these "local" or "regional" guys don't advertise on the net and/or don't want to ship.
When I searched for my smith, I found some CRAZY well built stuff, that there was no way I could get, some of them looked like you could use them as a car lift.
I am lucky to have 2 bodysolid dealers, 1 hoist, 1 tuff stuff, a YorkBarbell, as well as places that carry the Weider 'beginner crap", and the body by Jake "fall apart crap"
So I was able to go and lay my hands on a LOT of this stuff.
It's very difficult to choose on the net as you REALLY don't know the build quality.
I was told by the "good " bodysolid dealer, that the NYB stuff he had seen was very well built.
If the NEW BS Smith had been out then, I'd have bought it from him. But I am much happier with the YorkBarbell System.

**Wildcat33** · 10-01-2002, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by agent8698
This has been an interesting thread, I feel like I've learned a lot. Here are some more links I found while searching for a power rack:

I've really enjoyed this thread too, lots of good info here. That homemade dip attachment is especially interesting. Looks like all that would be needed to make it would be (4) 1" water pipe elbows, 11' or so of 1" water pipe, a pipe cutter, and a tap for threading the pipes. Only problem is that if a power rack is the standard 26" depth the dip attachment will end up being about 3" too wide unless the design on that website is modified.

Here's yet another power rack to take a look at for those of you who haven't purchased yet ...

http://www.1-stop-exercise-equipment...facturer=S.G.I

Same company also has the cheapest A style weight tree I've seen yet, may get one of those some time for my Standard size plates. All USA made too so odds are the weld quality is above average.

**Wildcat33** · 10-03-2002, 06:57 AM

Ordered a bench for the rack last night and this is it:

http://www.fitnessrus.com/marab4000brm.html

Will post my take on it when it comes in too. The rack is scheduled to show up at my house sometime tomorrow.

**agent8698** · 10-03-2002, 09:09 PM

I got a good quote from a local dealer on a Parabody 843 power rack. I might go with that.

**agent8698** · 10-10-2002, 08:56 PM

This is what I ended up getting:

Power rack: Body-Solid WPR-78, no lat attachment, from classified ad, one year old, some minor scratches only, $180.

Olympic weight set: Cap Barbell 300# (bar has smooth sleeves!), new, marked as $150, bought for $120 + tax

Flat-incline bench: Nautilus model NT 1012, new, paid full price $250 + tax, it's only 48 inches long (important for me because of space), has rear rollers and a front handle, all of which make it easy to move in and out of the power rack. It is very strong, and the upholstery feels firm and indestructible. Love it, worth the price.

Dumbbells: 6 pairs hex: 8, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, with Parabody vertical rack, both together from classified ad: $100.

Total: $682.

**Wildcat33** · 10-10-2002, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by agent8698
This is what I ended up getting:

Power rack: Body-Solid WPR-78, no lat attachment, from classified ad, one year old, some minor scratches only, $180.

Olympic weight set: Cap Barbell 300# (bar has smooth sleeves!), new, marked as $150, bought for $120 + tax

Flat-incline bench: Nautilus model NT 1012, new, paid full price $250 + tax, it's only 48 inches long (important for me because of space), has rear rollers and a front handle, all of which make it easy to move in and out of the power rack. It is very strong, and the upholstery feels firm and indestructible. Love it, worth the price.

Dumbbells: 6 pairs hex: 8, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, with Parabody vertical rack, both together from classified ad: $100.

Total: $682.

Congrats! Hope you end up being very pleased with the new equipment.

Should be able to add a lat attachment to the rack any time you want, and be able to do incline BP on the outside front of it. Very solid looking bench there. Is that a dumbbell rack under the seat?

**agent8698** · 10-10-2002, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Wildcat33
Congrats! Hope you end up being very pleased with the new equipment.

Should be able to add a lat attachment to the rack any time you want, and be able to do incline BP on the outside front of it. Very solid looking bench there. Is that a dumbbell rack under the seat?

Yes it is Wildcat33, but Nautilus recently changed the design I was told: they decided to remove the (dumbbell) saddles but keep the black bars. The salesman said the bars still had a structural function, but what are they supposed to do, keep the bench from collapsing under 800 pounds or something? I think the main structure is plenty strong, I didn't even attach those lightweight leftovers from the earlier design.

Lat attachment: I doubt that I will be able to find one of those used, for sale by itself. So I will probably have to order it new and pay more for it than I paid for the rack. @&#$*! I might do that later.

I also really like the Cap Barbell plates, very pleasing grey-green color, almost looks like jade or something. They look like they're machined, nice precision lines, but I have to assume they are cast (at this price). And the knurling on the bar is deeper and more uniform and better quality than other bars I've seen at other stores. Max

**Wildcat33** · 10-11-2002, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by agent8698
Yes it is Wildcat33, but Nautilus recently changed the design I was told: they decided to remove the (dumbbell) saddles but keep the black bars. The salesman said the bars still had a structural function, but what are they supposed to do, keep the bench from collapsing under 800 pounds or something? I think the main structure is plenty strong, I didn't even attach those lightweight leftovers from the earlier design.

Lat attachment: I doubt that I will be able to find one of those used, for sale by itself. So I will probably have to order it new and pay more for it than I paid for the rack. @&#$*! I might do that later.

I also really like the Cap Barbell plates, very pleasing grey-green color, almost looks like jade or something. They look like they're machined, nice precision lines, but I have to assume they are cast (at this price). And the knurling on the bar is deeper and more uniform and better quality than other bars I've seen at other stores. Max

The black bars may add a little structural rigidity to the backbone bar so the bench doesn't flex under heavy weight. But if there's enough weight on the bench to make the main backbone buckle those bars sure aren't going to stop it

Looks like a very solid bench, Nautilus makes good stuff. I like the rollers and handle.

Haven't ordered my lat attachment or dip station yet, probably will soon. The new bench has still not showed up, but is scheduled for delivery today. I'll post a mini-review when it gets here.

**Lotsosquats** · 10-12-2002, 07:02 PM

I'm gonna order my rack in the next couple of weeks but wanted some mats to set it on. Regular mats seem to run 65+ but I went to ATWOODS ( a local farming supplier type store) and got horse stall mats for $33.00. Look to be about the same thing (size, thickness, etc.) and I figure if they can hold up to a 1200 pound horse, they can hold up to my pathetic dead lifts. Just a thought to anyone looking for mats.

**ctgblue** · 10-13-2002, 05:02 PM

Thanks for the heads up, never thought of that, probably leave black marks but better than holes in the carpet.
I use a piece ofr the "college carpet" from Walmart which you can get in July/August. Approx 8x11 paid about $15, does a decent job of dispersing weight, but I've got a smith and the plates don't hit the ground.

**Lotsosquats** · 10-13-2002, 06:20 PM

No black marks yet 8) I put them down wrongside up. The top is smooth but the bottom is slightly rough so I get a good foot grip for squats and such. Talked to the guy at the store, he said they were made out of old tires. Always wondered what happened to those things.

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