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    Just weigh your food cooked. Take the chicken off the bone and weight it out.
    yeah makes sense; just didnt want to make the chicken and find out it was too much you know...

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    i noticed that my strength in today's workout was noticeably less since last week's (i trained chest). i cant wait till my cheat meal on saturday night! its my 1st one; i'm thinking of:

    large chicken sandwich, 500mL chocolate milk, and something for dessert...probably an ultra king-sized chocolate bar. what do you guys think? what do you guys have for your cheats? i might do 2 sandwiches instead of 1...

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    i noticed that my strength in today's workout was noticeably less since last week's (i trained chest). i cant wait till my cheat meal on saturday night! its my 1st one; i'm thinking of:

    large chicken sandwich, 500mL chocolate milk, and something for dessert...probably an ultra king-sized chocolate bar. what do you guys think? what do you guys have for your cheats? i might do 2 sandwiches instead of 1...
    Once I had a footlong chicken bacon ranch from subway w/ large arbys fry, and friday I had a whole pizza with 3 brownies.
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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    i noticed that my strength in today's workout was noticeably less since last week's (i trained chest). i cant wait till my cheat meal on saturday night! its my 1st one; i'm thinking of:

    large chicken sandwich, 500mL chocolate milk, and something for dessert...probably an ultra king-sized chocolate bar. what do you guys think? what do you guys have for your cheats? i might do 2 sandwiches instead of 1...
    Nothing crazy.

    I had a steakburger on wheat bread with cheese, mustard, and onions.

    Edit: Besides that I will sometimes have a footlong turkey from subway on wheat

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    So just for motivational purposes how much weight have you guys lost so far???

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    Originally Posted by AngeloBangelo View Post
    Nothing crazy.

    I had a steakburger on wheat bread with cheese, mustard, and onions.

    Edit: Besides that I will sometimes have a footlong turkey from subway on wheat
    so what i have planned is a bit much in your opinion??

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    so... any before and after pics??

    is it possible you can make lean muscle gains aswell as cut fat whilse on this diet?

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    can i scramble or boil the eggs???

    also can i fry the chicken with extra virgin olive oil in the pan

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    so what i have planned is a bit much in your opinion??
    Just keep it under 500g carbs I think, you are only have like 1-2 chicken sandwiches, which isn't bad at all. You need to eat alot(until you are full).

    Originally Posted by bradhore View Post
    so... any before and after pics??


    is it possible you can make lean muscle gains aswell as cut fat whilse on this diet?
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/matthew_eubanks.htm
    I have gained strength while on this diet while cutting body fat.

    Originally Posted by bradhore View Post
    can i scramble or boil the eggs???
    Just so you eat the eggs, it doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by Ethan Carr View Post
    Just keep it under 500g carbs I think, you are only have like 1-2 chicken sandwiches, which isn't bad at all. You need to eat alot(until you are full).


    I have gained strength while on this diet while cutting body fat.


    Just so you eat the eggs, it doesn't matter.
    awesomeness; earlier in this forum (like a year ago lol) there were some pretty sickass cheat meals; this is nothing compared to those lol

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    Originally Posted by bradhore View Post
    so... any before and after pics??
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/matthew_eubanks.htm

    is it possible you can make lean muscle gains as well as cut fat whilse on this diet?
    yes.

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    well, according to the scale i got, the "teaspoon" i have been using gives me like 20+ grams of PB........wow. i just did 16g; its not even a full teaspoon....

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    Thumbs up Caffeine

    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    i thought the problem with cortisol (for us) was that it broke down muscle tissue...am i wrong on this?
    If you can do it without caffeine all the better...many of us are unfortunately addicted to and use it...many of Dave's athletes/clients use it...regards to cortisol being affected...you would have to consume around 8-10 GRAMS a day to cause cortisol being affected

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    wahey im gonna f**kin go for it!

    may take some calcium tablets and multivitamins and i wont be getting all the vitamins and minerals i need with this.

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    Originally Posted by pwc View Post
    If you can do it without caffeine all the better...many of us are unfortunately addicted to and use it...many of Dave's athletes/clients use it...regards to cortisol being affected...you would have to consume around 8-10 GRAMS a day to cause cortisol being affected
    so, the hydroxycut is okay? i emailed Dave himself, and he said i can use it if i need a pick-me-up (sparingly). you mean 8g caffeine??? thats like....80 cups of coffee lol

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    Started this yesterday, and I was actually surprised. I thought I was going to be starving, but other then the one time I had to wait 3 and a half hours eat, I was not hungry at all.

    Trained legs last night, and had a so-so squat. I've been setting PR's on squat for like the last 3 weeks, but this week I struggled a little. Then after hamstring curls I was like wow I'm dead tired. Then I smashed my PR on leg extensions and leg press. So I'm going to stick with this. I have a few question though that I couldn't find answer to, and I read close to 50 pages in the thread.

    -Is the two week wait period for a cheat meal just for those doing this for competitions, or is that a general rule for anyone following this?

    -Can I have the lean protein meal (chicken), with the mixed green salad instead of almonds, or does the mixed green salad have to be with some type of fatty protein? I ask because I'm getting sick of just straight up chicken breast and would like to cut up the 8oz of chicken and put it in the salad.

    -Is tuna (180 calories, 1.5g fat, 39g protein) acceptable instead of chicken at the lean protein meal?

    Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    so, the hydroxycut is okay? i emailed Dave himself, and he said i can use it if i need a pick-me-up (sparingly). you mean 8g caffeine??? thats like....80 cups of coffee lol
    good point

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    Originally Posted by bradhore View Post
    good point
    lol what do you mean?

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    Originally Posted by KieNasty94 View Post
    Started this yesterday, and I was actually surprised. I thought I was going to be starving, but other then the one time I had to wait 3 and a half hours eat, I was not hungry at all.

    Trained legs last night, and had a so-so squat. I've been setting PR's on squat for like the last 3 weeks, but this week I struggled a little. Then after hamstring curls I was like wow I'm dead tired. Then I smashed my PR on leg extensions and leg press. So I'm going to stick with this. I have a few question though that I couldn't find answer to, and I read close to 50 pages in the thread.

    -Is the two week wait period for a cheat meal just for those doing this for competitions, or is that a general rule for anyone following this?

    -------------------it is a general rule. only the pro/veg days are for those who want competition shape

    -Can I have the lean protein meal (chicken), with the mixed green salad instead of almonds, or does the mixed green salad have to be with some type of fatty protein? I ask because I'm getting sick of just straight up chicken breast and would like to cut up the 8oz of chicken and put it in the salad.

    --------------------no, you need fats with the lean protein meal; that's where the almonds come in.

    -Is tuna (180 calories, 1.5g fat, 39g protein) acceptable instead of chicken at the lean protein meal?

    --------------------yes, that's what i used to use. just make sure you take the almonds with it, and make sure you calculate your daily macros

    Thanks.
    answers under questions

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    so, the hydroxycut is okay? i emailed Dave himself, and he said i can use it if i need a pick-me-up (sparingly). you mean 8g caffeine??? thats like....80 cups of coffee lol

    Hydroxycut is okay...yes 8 grams... I was told that by a Palumbo diet expert

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    so, the hydroxycut is okay? i emailed Dave himself, and he said i can use it if i need a pick-me-up (sparingly). you mean 8g caffeine??? thats like....80 cups of coffee lol
    I wouldn't bother with Hydroxcut - there's way better stuff out there for les $$$. Caffeine here and there won't cause any devestating elevation to cortisol unless you're freaking out and stressing over the fact you consumed caffeine. There are also some cortisol blocking fat burners, Lean Xtreme for one, that work quite well.

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    Originally Posted by cyde View Post
    I wouldn't bother with Hydroxcut - there's way better stuff out there for les $$$. Caffeine here and there won't cause any devestating elevation to cortisol unless you're freaking out and stressing over the fact you consumed caffeine. There are also some cortisol blocking fat burners, Lean Xtreme for one, that work quite well.
    lol i have 2 big bottles of hydroxycut hardcore; bought last month before i even knew about this diet

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    Originally Posted by yoyohello View Post
    lol i have 2 big bottles of hydroxycut hardcore; bought last month before i even knew about this diet
    Gotcha. Use 'em up then!

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    Originally Posted by cyde View Post
    Gotcha. Use 'em up then!
    yep; gonna start tomorrow! i am gonna bulk up in 16 weeks, but i might do a show in May. im not 100% sure; i probably wont though

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    Wow those eggs are real hard to get down.... if i cant find a better tasting way of eating them i might start substituting it for a fatty fish food. I can do this correct?

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    on the eggs, would be a little franks red hot be a deal breaker? 0 calories, 0 carbs.

    thanks

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    Originally Posted by Amir689 View Post
    Wow those eggs are real hard to get down.... if i cant find a better tasting way of eating them i might start substituting it for a fatty fish food. I can do this correct?
    hahaa.. had the same problem. hold your breath n' down em?

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    Originally Posted by Sick View Post
    Also, you don't have to have eggs, you can substitute with fatty fishes like salmon, swordfish, and tuna.
    So i can do this diet without having any eggs at all?

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    Originally Posted by Amir689 View Post
    So i can do this diet without having any eggs at all?
    Read what you just quoted.
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    Originally Posted by Ethan Carr View Post
    Read what you just quoted.
    right on... but a little miracle whip in the tuna (can't stomach it straight) would be a no-go, right? say like 1 tablespoon.

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