Glucosamine Information

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Here is some information on glucosamine supplementation...



Glucosamine for Arthritis
Stephen Barrett, M.D.
Osteoarthritis (OA), the most widespread type of arthritis, is a degenerative disease of the joints. Although sometimes capable of causing acute inflammation, it is most commonly a "wear-and-tear" disease involving degeneration of joint cartilage and formation of bony spurs within various joints. Trauma to the joints, repetitive occupational usage, and obesity are risk factors. Most people over 60 years of age have this affliction to some extent, with approximately 16 million sufferers requiring medical care. The main goal of treatment is to relieve pain.

In recent years, glucosamine and chondroitin have been widely promoted as a treatment for OA. Glucosamine, an amino sugar, is thought to promote the formation and repair of cartilage. Chondroitin, a carbohydrate, is a cartilage component that is thought to promote water retention and elasticity and to inhibit the enzymes that break down cartilage. Both compounds are manufactured by the body.

Research Findings
Laboratory studies suggest that glucosamine may stimulate production of cartilage-building proteins. Other research suggests that chondroitin may inhibit production of cartilage-destroying enzymes and fight inflammation too. Glucosamine supplements are derived from shellfish shells; chondroitin supplements are generally made from cow cartilage. Human studies have shown that either one may relieve arthritis pain and stiffness with fewer side effects than conventional arthritis drugs. But two problems remain. First, there has not been enough high-quality or long-range research to determine whether their use is practical. Second, because dietary supplement manufacture is not regulated, product quality (especially of chondroitin products) is not assured.

Some published studies comparing glucosamine or chondroitin to various standard medications have found that the drugs worked faster than the supplements. But they also found that several months after treatment ended, the analgesic effect of the supplements remained stronger.

In March 2000, a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association concluded:

Trials of glucosamine and chondroitin preparations for OA symptoms demonstrate moderate to large effects, but quality issues and likely publication bias suggest that these effects are exaggerated. Nevertheless, some degree of efficacy appears probable for these preparations [1].

An accompanying editorial cautioned:

As with many nutraceuticals that currently are widely touted as beneficial for common but difficult-to-treat disorders, the promotional enthusiasm often far surpasses the scientific evidence supporting clinical use. Until high-quality studies, such as the National Institutes of Health study, are completed, work such as [the meta-analysis] is the best hope for providing physicians with information necessary to advise their patients about the risks and benefits of these therapies [2].

In 2001, the Lancet published the results of a three-year double-blind clinical trial involving 212 people with osteoarthritis who took either glucosamine or a placebo. The researchers found that symptoms improved 20% to 25% in the glucosamine group but worsened slightly in the placebo group. The x-ray examinations showed that serious narrowing of the knee-joint space -- a sign of progression of the disease -- occurred in only half as many patients taking glucosamine as in those receiving the placebo [3].However, the Medical Letter has reported that the x-rays were questionably standardized; there was little correlation between the joint-space changes and the symptoms; and there was no difference between the glucosamine and placebo groups in the use of standard medication to "rescue" patients [4].

As for chondroitin, a recent analysis of the combined results of seven randomized, controlled trials indicated that the supplement may reduce osteoarthritis symptoms and improve function by an average of some 50%, although the studies had flaws that may exaggerate the benefits.

Products
In the United States, glucosamine and chondroitin products are marketed as "dietary supplements." Glucosamine is available in many forms, including glucosamine sulfate, glucosamine hydrochloride (HCl), and N-acetylglucosamine (NAG), and may also contain a potassium chloride or sodium chloride salt. However, there appears to be no conclusive evidence that one form is better than another [5]. Chondroitin is typically sold as chondroitin sulfate. In December 1999 and January 2000, ConsumerLab.com tested 25 brands of glucosamine, chondroitin and combination products and found that (a) all 10 glucosamine-only products, passed the test but 2 chondroitin-only and 6 out of 13 combination products did not (because their chondroitin levels were too low). In January 2001, one of the combination products was removed because its manganese level was judged to be too high.

In 2001, Consumer Reports evaluated 19 products and reported:

Most . . . were reasonably well standardized, delivering at least 90 percent of the amount of glucosamine or chondroitin promised on the label, thereby meeting a new standard for the supplements proposed by the U.S. Pharmacopeia, which sets standards for drugs and proposes them for supplements. But four products -- Now Double Strength Glucosamine & Chondroitin, ArthxDS Glucosamine Chondroitin, Solgar Extra Strength Glucosamine Chondroitin Complex, and Now Chondroitin Sulfate -- failed to meet that standard. Two products -- Solgar Extra Strength Glucosamine Chondroitin Complex and Twinlab CSA (Chondroitin Sulfate) -- recommended too few pills per day to supply the dose used in the successful clinical trials. Several others listed the recommended number of pills as a range that permits consumers to take a dose that may be inadequate [6].

In 2001, Vital Nutrients recalled two products (Vital Nutrients Joint Ease and Verified Quality Joint Comfort) that had been found to contain aristolochic acid, a substance that can cause kidney toxicity and cancer [7].

Safety Considerations
No study so far has found any serious side effects from either glucosamine or chondroitin. The most common side effects are increased intestinal gas and softened stools. However, animal research has raised the possibility that glucosamine may worsen insulin resistance, a major cause of diabetes. So far, studies in humans have not substantiated that risk. Nevertheless, people with diabetes should monitor their blood-sugar level particularly carefully when using that supplement. There have been no reports of allergic reactions to glucosamine. But since it's made from shellfish shells, people who are allergic to seafood should use it cautiously, watching for reactions, or avoid it entirely. As for chondroitin, it can cause bleeding in people who have a bleeding disorder or take a blood-thinning drug.

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Authorities Disagree

Respected medical authorities regard use of these compounds as plausible and agree that more research is needed to place them in proper perspective. However, disagreement exists about how practical it is to use them now. The organizations I trust most give different advice.. Consumer Reports states:

The long-term safety and efficacy of glucosamine and chondroitin remain unclear. Still, our medical consultants say there's enough evidence to conclude that products containing the amounts of glucosamine, chondroitin, or both that worked in the clinical trials might be worth trying for people with osteoarthritis -- particularly if they've experienced or are likely to experience significant side effects from conventional painkillers. (Those amounts were 1,500 milligrams per day of glucosamine salt -- glucosamine bound to another molecule -- and 1,200 milligrams of chondroitin salt.)

While no one knows which formulation works best, it makes sense to try one of the least expensive combination products, such as Puritan's Pride Maximum Strength Glucosamine Chondroitin or Spring Valley Glucosamine Chondroitin Double Strength; they deliver both of the ingredients at lower cost than the chondroitin-only products and, in most cases, at a similar cost to the glucosamine-only products. For those who are concerned mainly with cost, however, Spring Valley Glucosamine Complex was the least expensive product we tested (although to get the clinical-trial dosage, you need to ignore the range of daily pills recommended on the label and take the maximum, three per day).

It may take two months . . . to produce any significant improvement. If you see no effect by then, it's probably best to try a different approach [6]

The Medical Letter, which is the medical profession's most respected drug advisory publication, is more conservative:

Glucosamine with or without chondroitin may have some beneficial effect on osteoarthritis, and studies up to 3 years in duration have found no more adverse effects than with placebo, but most Medical Letter consultants are skeptical. Whether glucosamine offers any advantages over better established drugs such as acetaminophen, traditional NSAIDS or selective Cox-2 inhibitors remains to be determined. As with other dietary supplements, the quality and purity of the ingredients may vary [4].

A clinical trial that should add considerably to medical knowledge about glucosamine and chondroitin has been funded and is now recruiting patients. It will be a 24-week, placebo-controlled, double-blind, study that will evaluate the effect on osteoarthritic knee pain of glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin, a combination of the two, and celicoxib among 1588 participants at 13 centers throughout the country over a 27-month period [8]. The estimated completion date in March 2005.

The Bottom Line
Decisions to use glucosamine or chondroitin must be based on information that is far less complete than is desirable. In addition, product quality control is a significant problem. Here's my advice:

The first step in seeking care for arthritic symptoms should be to obtain a competent diagnosis.
The next step should be to explore the pros and cons of treatment options with a competent physician
If you decide to try glucosamine and/or chondroitin, have a knowledgeable physician guide how you do it.
Consumer Reports, ConsumerLab.com, or your physician can help in choosing the product.
Ignore any practitioner or seller who promises a "miracle cure" for arthritis. Never buy a dietary supplement in response to a solicitation by mail or though s radio or television ad.
Shop carefully for price. The Puritan's Pride mail-order division, which has frequent "2-for-1" and "3-for-one" sales, sells products that cost only $4 to $5 per month. (Be sure, of course, to ignore claims the company makes for its products. No seller of dietary supplements, herbs, or homeopathic remedies should be trusted for advice on whether they are useful.)
References
McAlindon TE and others. Glucosamine and chondroitin for treatment of osteoarthritis: A systematic quality assessment and meta-analysis JAMA 283:1469-1475, 2000. [Full-text version is accessible online for JAMA subscribers.]
Tanveer E, Anastassiades TP. Glucosamine and chondroitin for treating symptoms of osteoarthritis: Evidence is widely touted but incomplete. JAMA 283:1483-1484, 2000. [Full-text version is accessible online for JAMA subscribers.]
Reginster JY and others. Long-term effects of glucosamine sulfate on osteoarthritis progression: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial. Lancet 357:251-256, 2001.
Update on glucosamine for osteoarthritis. Medical Letter 43:111-112, 2001.
Product review: GLUCOSAMINE and CHONDROITIN. ConsumerLab Web site, accessed Jan 22, 2002.
Joint remedies. Consumer Reports, Jan 2002.
Vital Nutrients recalls Joint Ease & Verified Quality Brand Joint Comfort Complex because of adverse health risk associated with aristolochic acid. News release, May 24, 2001.
Study of the efficacy of glucosamine and glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate in knee osteoarthritis. NIH Web site, accessed Jan 22, 2002.

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New Glucosamine Studies in Europe
07/01/04 Posted by Administrator

The latest round of European studies regarding the use of glucosamine is not surprising. While these studies focused on post-menopausal women, there are important findings for men as well.

The Post-Menopausal Woman

As many of you may not know, glucosamine is a "prescription medication" in some European countries. In these studies, glucosamine sulfate was used to determine what impact it had on women who were post-menopausal. We will discuss that further below.

It has been widely acknowledged that women over age 50 are prone to osteoarthritis of the knee. The researchers have speculated that this is caused by the loss of estrogen although there are no firm medical studies to confirm that fact. For purposes of this study, only women who had a diagnosis of osteoarthritis of the knee were studied. In this case study, 414 women were studied and most had entered menopause.

The Results?

What these studies found was that the use of glucosamine helped build cartilage; slowed the progression of the OA; and, that symptoms were greatly diminished. That, in itself, is significant but not surprising. However, these studies also confirmed some other interesting facts.

Knee X-rays

Although x-ray imaging is not perfect, the researchers found that those taking glucosamine did not demonstrate further loss of cartilage. Those in the "placebo" group did. As well, those in the latter group got worse. As this study confirms, glucosamine not only stopped the disease from progressing, but as well, it possibly reversed it. (I might caution that this was a three-year study so don't expect miraculous x-ray results short term.)

Those who were not taking glucosamine experienced a result that was opposite of those that did. Namely, their stiffness and other symptoms progressed.

Capsules vs. Liquid

It should be of interest that this study used a "capsule-form" of glucosamine. As any regular reader of this column knows, I strongly advocate the use of the liquid form for its greater bio-availability and absorption into the body.

The Impact of this Study for Both Sexes

While this particular study focused on post-menopausal women (since post-menopausal women have a high incidence of OA in the knee) the importance of these findings apply to men as well. It is simply part of the growing acceptance within the medical community that glucosamine plays a major role in maintaining joint health.

As these researchers pointed out, not only did OA of the knee improve with the use of glucosamine, it also benefited all joints in the body.

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More studies...
http://www.arthritis-pain-treatments...dresearch.html

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What are Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate?

Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are substances found naturally in the body. Glucosamine is a form of amino sugar that is believed to play a role in cartilage formation and repair. Chondroitin sulfate is part of a large protein molecule (proteoglycan) that gives cartilage elasticity.

Both glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are sold as dietary or nutritional supplements. They are extracted from animal tissue: glucosamine from crab, lobster or shrimp shells; and chondroitin sulfate from animal cartilage, such as tracheas or shark cartilage.

What do they do?

Past studies show that some people with mild to moderate osteoarthritis (OA) taking either glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate reported pain relief at a level similar to that of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Some research indicates that the supplements might also slow cartilage damage in people with OA. Definitive results about the effects of these supplements are expected from an in-depth clinical study currently being conducted by the National Institutes of Health.

What do I look for?

Because dietary supplements are unregulated, the quality and content may vary widely. If you decide to take these supplements:

-Choose products sold by large, well-established companies that can be held accountable.
-Read the product labels carefully to make sure the ingredient lists make sense to you. If you have trouble, ask your pharmacists for help.
-Be sure to consult your doctor before deciding to try these supplements.
Make sure that OA is the cause of your pain.
-Do not stop or reduce your current prescribed medications without talking with your doctor.
-Recommended doses should cost about $1 to $3 per day, but most insurance companies do not cover this cost.

How do I take them?

If you decide to take these supplements, consult your doctor about the proper dosage. The amount used in studies of glucosamine was 1,500 mg per day and in studies of chondroitin sulfate, 1,200 mg per day was used.

You can try the supplements along with your current medications for six to eight weeks. If you don't experience any difference in your symptoms within a few months, you probably will not get any relief from using the supplements.

Are there side effects?

The most common side effects are increased intestinal gas and softened stools. If you experience these problems, you might want to try another supplement brand before you stop using them altogether.

More studies need to be done to confirm the safety and effectiveness of the supplements. Be sure to contact your doctor if you notice any unusual or new symptoms while you are taking them.

Cautions

-Children, women who are pregnant, and women who could become pregnant should not take these supplements. They have not been studied long enough to determine their effects on a child or on a developing fetus.
-Because glucosamine is an amino sugar, people with diabetes should check their blood sugar levels more frequently when taking this supplement.
-If you are taking chondroitin sulfate in addition to a blood-thinning medication or daily aspirin therapy, have your blood clotting time checked more often. This supplement is similar in structure to the blood-thinning drug heparin, and the combination may cause bleeding in some people.
-If you are allergic to shellfish, consult your doctor before deciding to take glucosamine. In most cases, however, allergies are caused by proteins in shellfish, not chitin, a carbohydrate from which glucosamine is extracted.

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Great read...
http://www.scottishsport.co.uk/running/glucosamine.htm

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Good read...
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Does glucosamine work?
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/55416.html



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GREAT read on glucosamine and MSM...
http://www.1backpain.com/all_about_g...ne_and_msm.htm

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Does glutamine work?

I'd say no but Glucosamine on the other hand........

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Journal article...
http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html...4/04/96255.php

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I'd say no but Glucosamine on the other hand........

Damnit, my fault, better change that one, lol...

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PDR Health
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...glu_0122.shtml

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Clinical trials...
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00065377

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Summary of glucosamine and chondroitin studies

Current studies show “a moderate benefit” for glucosamine sulfate and a slightly greater benefit for glucosamine sulfate and chondroitin sulfate when used for osteoarthritis of the knee or hip to treat pain (3). The only study that examined results for treatment of osteoarthritis of the spine did not have a large enough number of patients to support or reject the use of glucosamine sulfate and/or chondroitin sulfate.
However, the authors felt the supplements to be a reasonable treatment for osteoarthritis of the spine given the low incidence of side effects, other available evidence supporting their use, and the lack of more effective traditional medical treatments.

It should be emphasized that with the current studies, there is no conclusive evidence that glucosamine sulfate or chondroitin sulfate prevents or reverses the process of joint degeneration that leads to osteoarthritis. Future studies are needed to make such conclusions.

The following summary is based on the reviewed studies:

-Typical dosage is 1500mg for glucosamine sulfate and 1200mg for chondroitin sulfate, taken once daily. For body weight less than 100 lbs, the dose is generally reduced to 1000mg for glucosamine sulfate and 800mg for chondroitin sulfate.

-Duration of treatment has not yet been determined.

-Reported improvement (e.g. reduction in painful symptoms) varies from three weeks to as much as eight weeks.

-Some studies have shown continued improvement of symptoms after oral intake was stopped.

-Generally, if there is no pain reduction after two months, there is little chance of improvement.

-Patients should keep a diary of their symptoms when treatment begins to better judge any changes in pain level or joint movement, and this information should be shared with their physician.

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Studies...
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupple...osaminecs.html

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Medical study...
http://www.drtheo.com/study112000.html

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Another clinical trial...
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00032890

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If anyone has any more info on glucosamine feel free to post it here...

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Enzymatic Therapy's home page has a large amount of medical abstracts on Glucosamine/Chondroitin. They manufacture the original Glucosamine Sulfate by which all others are judged. They also manufacture a low-molecular weight Chondroitin for increased absorption.

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hi, that is a very useful information. Can we take other supplements like whey and pre workouts or creatine while taking these glucosamine supplements ? Is there any interactions between these supplements ?

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Summary of glucosamine and chondroitin studies

Current studies show “a moderate benefit” for glucosamine sulfate and a slightly greater benefit for glucosamine sulfate and chondroitin sulfate when used for osteoarthritis of the knee or hip to treat pain (3). The only study that examined results for treatment of osteoarthritis of the spine did not have a large enough number of patients to support or reject the use of glucosamine sulfate and/or chondroitin sulfate.
However, the authors felt the supplements to be a reasonable treatment for osteoarthritis of the spine given the low incidence of side effects, other available evidence supporting their use, and the lack of more effective traditional medical treatments.

It should be emphasized that with the current studies, there is no conclusive evidence that glucosamine sulfate or chondroitin sulfate prevents or reverses the process of joint degeneration that leads to osteoarthritis. Future studies are needed to make such conclusions.

The following summary is based on the reviewed studies:

-Typical dosage is 1500mg for glucosamine sulfate and 1200mg for chondroitin sulfate, taken once daily. For body weight less than 100 lbs, the dose is generally reduced to 1000mg for glucosamine sulfate and 800mg for chondroitin sulfate.

-Duration of treatment has not yet been determined.

-Reported improvement (e.g. reduction in painful symptoms) varies from three weeks to as much as eight weeks.

-Some studies have shown continued improvement of symptoms after oral intake was stopped.

-Generally, if there is no pain reduction after two months, there is little chance of improvement.

-Patients should keep a diary of their symptoms when treatment begins to better judge any changes in pain level or joint movement, and this information should be shared with their physician.

hi, that is a very useful information. Can we take other supplements like whey and pre workouts or creatine while taking these glucosamine supplements ? Is there any interactions between these supplements ?