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    Originally Posted by Iron Draggin View Post

    *life lesson learned*
    So for whatever reason I forgot about my ETHER after working out this morning. After I had changed and was getting my PW shake I noticed the baggie of Ether sitting in my gym bag. So I thought I would just throw it in the shake, and at least that would be better then nothing.

    I'm not sure I was right....

    Not only did it not improve the taste any, but I got the worst bloating/gas feeling I have had in quite some time. I have no idea why the shake would be any different from the OJ I normally throw it in, but I had enough pressure in my stomach that I thought I was going to throw up for about half an hour.
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    Actually thats a lesson learned from the directions. Its not good to mix ETHER with protein.
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    Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL View Post
    Actually thats a lesson learned from the directions. Its not good to mix ETHER with protein.
    Yeah, I know, normally I follow the directions pretty closely, but I wanted to try to take it as close to the workout as I could. I figured it may be because it lessens the absorption, not because it would make my stomach blow up like a ballon.
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    Originally Posted by Iron Draggin View Post
    Yeah, I know, normally I follow the directions pretty closely, but I wanted to try to take it as close to the workout as I could. I figured it may be because it lessens the absorption, not because it would make my stomach blow up like a ballon.
    More of the 2nd because its not good to mix bicarbinates and phosphates with protein powder.
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    Sorry about the lack of updates, I have been battling a head/chest cold since Sunday morning. I have been taking maintenance amounts (1.5 scoops 2x daily) on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Today I will also. I'm feeling a bit more human today, so I'm hoping that if I stick in bed and get some good rest, I'll be ready to hit the gym in the morning.
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    Day 18 - Day 21 1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking, 1 scoop in water 6PM.
    All last week I was battling a horrendeus head/chest cold. I was mostly incapacitated Monday through Thursday, and only got rid of the sore throat/cough Saturday.

    I was religious with taking my Maintanence doses, but all that lost time and the niggling runny nose/chest stuff, I'm afraid that my last few workouts are going to suffer a bit.

    Because I really like this product and I don't care for what happened with this log so far (getting sick right at what I consider a critical time), I decided to continue to run this log through another bottle of NOS ETHER. I have a bottle on the way from BB.com, and I'm hoping that it will show up before I run out of my current supply, but I may have a day or so lapse, we will see.

    Other then the my continued intestinal stuff, which seems to have mostly subsided, I have been really happy with the strength/endurance gains and my recovery on NOS ETHER.

    On a side note it is currently available for $42.99, which is a huge cut from the retail price, and brings it into the price range of most people. If you have any intrest in picking this up now is probably a good time, I'm not sure if that is an introductory special or what, but it's a d*mn fine price.

    I have no affilation with Get Diesel or anything like that, the products are just good, go get some!
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    Day 22 - 2 scoops (in OJ) upon waking, 2 scoop (in OJ) Post WO 6:30 AM. 3 R4W caps upon waking.

    The R4W has baselined. I'm getting pretty good focus, but that is about it right now.

    Date: Dec 17, 2007
    Name: Chest-Triceps
    Start Time: 05:50 AM
    End Time: 06:30 AM
    Duration: 0:40
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Tired
    Notes: No training partner, still recovering from illness, and all kinds of other whining here. I got up, I went and lifted, I would have liked to do more, but I didn't.
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Hammer Strength - Iso Lateral Chest Press
    #1 90 15
    #2 90 15
    #3 180 12
    #4 270 10
    #5 320 3+2
    #6 270 7
    2 Incline Dumbbell Press
    #1 55 15
    #2 70 12
    #3 80 8
    3 Dumbbell Flyes
    #1 30 10
    #2 40 8
    #3 45 6
    4 Triceps Pushdown - V-Bar Attachment
    #1 70 10
    #2 70 10
    #3 80 8

    Well the Incline DB presses were up 15lbs. down 2 reps since my last chest day; I'll take that, I'll really take that coming back from being so sick.

    Date: Nov 26, 2007
    Name: Chest-Triceps
    Start Time: 06:00 AM
    End Time: 06:50 AM
    Duration: 0:50
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Hammer Strength Press
    #1 90 15
    #2 180 12
    #3 270 10
    #4 320 10
    #5 340 8
    #6 360 6
    I was down on this, I'm not sure what to attribute that to, but it's odd. Maybe I didn't push myself becasue I couldn't remember what my last lift was, maybe it was because of the illness, but the rest of the lifts were pretty close to previous chest days, other then the Incline DB's being up. I'm going to be watching those excersise more closely in the future.
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    Day 23 - 1 scoops (in OJ) upon waking, 2 scoop (in OJ) preWO 4 PM. 2 scoops (in OJ) PostWO 5:30PM. 3 R4W caps 4 PM.

    I always love working out in the afternoon, I'm so much better in my focus, and motivation. Unfortunatly I have to deal with crowded machines, so I guess you takes the bad with the good.

    Date: Dec 18, 2007
    Name: Back Biceps
    Start Time: 04:30 PM
    End Time: 05:30 PM
    Duration: 01:00
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Energized and Ready!
    Notes:

    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 One-Arm Dumbbell Row
    #1 45 15
    #2 45 15

    2 Hammer Strength Iso lateral rows (machine)
    #1 90 15
    #2 180 12
    #3 270 10
    #4 360 8
    #5 450 6
    #6 270 10
    Did the first 3 sets 2 arm then the last three 1 arm. Weight is for both arms, so 1/2 weight on 1 arm rows.

    3 Wide-Grip Lat Pulldown
    #1 140 12
    #2 180 5
    #3 160 10

    4 Low Cable reverse grip rows (standing)
    #1 120 12
    #2 140 10
    #3 180 8

    5 Seated Bent Over Rear Delt Raise
    #1 25 12
    #2 30 10
    #3 35 10

    6 Preacher Curl
    #1 75 10
    #2 95 8
    #3 95 5
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    Day 24 - 1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 5AM, 1.5 scoop (in OJ) postWO 6:50AM, 1 Scoop 11AM, 1 scoop 5:30PM. 3 R4W caps 5AM.

    Good Workout, but I've begun getting GI distress again, going to start speading the doses out a bit in hopes of easing this up.

    Date: Dec 19, 2007
    Name: Shoulder - Traps
    Start Time: 06:00 AM
    End Time: 06:45 AM
    Duration: 0:45
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Smith Machine Behind The Neck Press
    #1 100 12
    #2 100 10
    #3 130 8
    #4 175 6

    2 Smith Machine Behind The Neck Press
    #1 205 6
    #2 145 6
    #3 90 8
    #4 45 8
    This was one drop set. This and the previous were completed on a behind the neck machine.

    3 Hammer Strength Iso-Lateral raises
    #1 50 12
    #2 70 10
    #3 70 10
    weight for both sides

    4 Machine Shoulder (Military) Press
    #1 150 12
    #2 170 10
    #3 190 10

    5 Barbell Shrug
    #1 225 12
    #2 405 5
    #3 315 10

    6 Dumbbell Shrug
    #1 100 15

    7 Front Dumbbell Raise
    #1 25 12
    #2 30 10
    #3 40 8
    #4 20 12
    Per DB weight. The last 2 sets were a drop set.
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    Day 25 - 2 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) postWO 7AM, 1 Scoop 11AM, 1 scoop 6PM. 3 R4W caps 5AM.

    Date: Dec 20, 2007
    Name: Legs
    Start Time: 06:00 AM
    End Time: 07:00 AM
    Duration: 1:00
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Barbell Full Squat
    #1 90 12
    #2 180 8
    #3 270 6
    #4 320 4

    2 Leg Press
    #1 360 10
    #2 540 8
    #3 630 6
    Back on floor, 65-70 dgree sled machine.

    3 Leg Extensions
    #1 140 12
    #2 160 12
    #3 180 12
    Supersetted with Lying leg curls

    4 Lying Leg Curls
    #1 140 12
    #2 160 10
    #3 180 8
    Supersetted with Leg Extensions
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    Day 26 - 2 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 5:15AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) postWO 7AM, 1 Scoop 11AM, 1 scoop 6PM. 3 R4W caps 5AM.

    Date: Dec 21, 2007
    Name: Arms
    Start Time: 06:15 AM
    End Time: 07:00 AM
    Duration: 0:45
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 EZ-Bar Curl
    #1 75 12
    #2 95 10
    #3 95 10
    Supersetted with Nosebreakers

    2 Lying Close-Grip Barbell Triceps Press
    #1 75 12
    #2 115 8
    #3 135 3
    #4 115 8
    Supersetted with EZ bar curls

    3 Dips - Triceps Version
    #1 12
    #2 12
    #3 5

    4 Incline Dumbbell Curl
    #1 30 12
    #2 35 10

    Short WO but we were running a bit behind, and had to get to work. Felt good, but my triceps just gave out on the third set of presses.
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    Days 27 & 28 I woke up both mornings and took 1.5 scoops in OJ, then sometime in the afternoons I took another 1.5 scoops with water. It was a pretty uneventful weekend. Chocolate and Pies!
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    Day 29 - 1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 9AM, 1.5 scoops (in OJ) postWO 1:45AM, 1.5 Scoop 11AM, 1 scoop 7PM. 3 R4W caps 9AM.

    Date: Dec 24, 2007
    Name: Chest
    Start Time: 10:00 AM
    End Time: 11:00 AM
    Duration: 1:00
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Energized and Ready!
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps

    1 Dumbbell Bench Press
    #1 45 15
    #2 45 15
    #3 70 12
    #4 80 10
    #5 90 8
    #6 100 6
    I was getting some pain at the inside tie in on the middle of my left pec. I started rotating the press to a hammer grip at the bottom, and this alleviated the pain.

    2 Incline Dumbbell Press
    #1 45 12
    #2 60 10
    #3 75 8

    3 Cable Crossover #1 40 15
    #2 60 12
    #3 80 10
    There was supposed to be a 4th set (85lbsx6) on the incline presses, but my right elbow gave out. I was experience quite a bit of joint pain on monday, enough so that I ended up taking some asprin when I got home. I'll have to watch for that in the future.

    Yes this was a short workout again, but it was Christmas eve, and we wanted to go eat more chocolate cookies, and pie! I love the R4W, but it's weird, because it's such a clean energy, I really don't notice it.

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    Day 30 - 1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 9AM, 1.5 Scoop 1PM.


    Day 31 -1 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in Water) PreWO 1:45PM, 1.5 Scoops PostWO 3:45AM. 3 R4W caps 1:45AM.


    Date: Dec 26, 2007
    Name: Quads - Hams
    Start Time: 02:30 PM
    End Time: 03:45 PM
    Duration: 1:15
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes: I warmed up my knees with some 60lbs leg extensions.

    # Exercise Name
    Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Barbell Squat
    #1 180 10
    #2 270 8
    #3 180 10
    Weight includes the 90lbs barbell.

    2 Leg Press
    #1 270 12
    #2 360 8
    #3 450 8
    #4 540 6
    #5 630 4
    This is on the 60-65 degree leg press, weight not including the sled. (not sure what the sled weight is, 60-90lbs?)

    3 Leg Extensions
    #1 150 12
    #2 180 10
    #3 210 8
    Supersetted with the lying leg curls. pause at top and bottom.

    4 Lying Leg Curls
    #1 150 15
    #2 170 10
    #3 190 8
    Supersetted with leg extensions. Pause at top and bottom.

    I experienced some additional sweating with the R4W, but other then that I just the normal clean Energy. With legs it's hard to tell if I'm getting a pump, but my "in between sets" recovery was pretty good. I wasn't sucking wind nearly as bad as I often do with leg workouts.
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    Day 32 -2 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) PostWO 6:45AM. I'll have another scoop after work. 3 R4W caps 5AM.


    Date: Dec 27, 2007
    Name: Shoulders
    Start Time: 06:15 AM
    End Time: 07:00 AM
    Duration: 0:45
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Energized and Ready!
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name
    Set Lbs. Reps

    1 Hammer Stength Iso Shoulder Press
    #1 90 15
    #2 140 12
    #3 180 10
    #4 230 8
    #5 250 6

    2 Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    #1 60 12
    #2 70 10
    #3 75 8
    #4 80 6

    3 Side Lateral Raise
    #1 20 12
    #2 25 10
    #3 30 8

    4 Standing Low-Pulley Deltoid Raise
    #1 20 15

    Today was pretty good, but I have noticed that there is a marked difference in pumps when I use 5 scoops a day as opposed to 3 scoops. I'm still tweaking around on how to get 5 scoops in, but spread them out. If I take 4 in the first few hours of the day I pay for it dearly in GI distress. I'm going to try 1.5 scoops pre/post WO then another scoop mid day, and 1 more when I get home for a bit, and see if that works.
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    Some thoughts and comparisons.

    A month ago I was doing shoulder presses (Hammer strength Iso press) of 180lbs for 6 reps; 20 days ago I was doing 230lbs for 8, but today I was able to follow it up with 250lbs (plus 10lbs "bar weight") for 6. I'll call that an increase, but I'm not sure how much of an increase.
    Date: Dec 5, 2007
    Name: Chest - Triceps
    2 Dumbbell Bench Press
    #1 70 12
    #2 75 10
    #3 80 8
    3 Incline Dumbbell Press
    #1 50 12
    #2 60 10
    #3 65 8
    Date: Dec 17, 2007
    Name: Chest-Triceps

    2 Incline Dumbbell Press
    #1 55 15
    #2 70 12
    #3 80 8
    On the 24th I put up 75lbs for 8, on an incline DB press, and while it was 5lbs less then on the 17th, it was still 10lbs more then the 5th, which is pretty good. Add to that putting up 90lbs for 8 and 100lbs for 6 on DB presses (a 10+lbs increase from the 5th), and I'm very happy with what I am seeing so far.
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    Today was pretty good, but I have noticed that there is a marked difference in pumps when I use 5 scoops a day as opposed to 3 scoops. I'm still tweaking around on how to get 5 scoops in, but spread them out. If I take 4 in the first few hours of the day I pay for it dearly in GI distress. I'm going to try 1.5 scoops pre/post WO then another scoop mid day, and 1 more when I get home for a bit, and see if that works.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah your stomach is still pretty empty that early in the day. Try 1.5 pre-workout, 1.5 post workout, 1.5 before lunch, .5 before dinner. Thats on workout days.
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    Day 33 -1 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 6AM, 1 scoop (in water) 1PM, 1 scoop (in water) 6PM.

    Day 34 -1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 9AM, 1.5 scoops (in water) 2PM.

    Day 35 -1.5 scoops (in OJ) upon waking 10AM, 1.5 scoops (in water) 5PM.



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    Day 36 (42) -1 scoop (in Water) upon waking 9AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) 11AM.

    I don't Work out the first week of the year, it's about the only resolution I bother with, I hate working around people that haven't been to the gym in 51 weeks. My doses were spotty and low (about 1-2scoops) a day. this was mostly because of laziness, and a desire to keep the powder for when I'm working out. The first few days may be a bit of ramping back up.

    Date: Jan 7, 2008
    Name: Chest
    Start Time: 10:00 AM
    End Time: 11:00 AM
    Duration: 1:00
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes: First WO of 08, and it wasn't too bad.
    # Exercise Name
    Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Hammer Strength Iso bench press
    #1 90 15
    #2 180 12
    #3 270 10
    #4 320 6
    #5 340 4

    2 Incline Dumbbell Press
    #1 60 12
    #2 70 10
    #3 80 8

    3 Cable Crossover
    #1 40 12
    #2 40 12

    4 Incline Dumbbell Flyes - With A Twist
    #1 25 12
    #2 25 12
    I did these starting low, around the hips, and pulling up to the shoulders.
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    Day 42 -1 scoop (in Water) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) 7AM.
    Good to be back in the gym, but a pretty poor showing, none-the-less.

    Date: Jan 8, 2008
    Name: Back
    Start Time: 06:15 AM
    End Time: 07:00 AM
    Duration: 1:00
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name Set Lbs. Reps
    1 One-Arm Dumbbell Row
    #1 50 15
    #2 50 12
    #3 60 12
    #4 70 10
    #5 80 8
    #6 85 6

    2 V-Bar Pulldown
    #1 120 12
    #2 140 10
    #3 160 8

    3 Federov cable rows
    #1 40 12
    #2 40 12
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    Day 42 -1 scoop (in Water) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) 6:50AM.
    I'm still getting back into the swing after my week off, but I'm about on par with what I was lifting a couple weeks ago, which is still really good. My shoulders were swollen up really nicely, even with the short workout.

    Date: Jan 9, 2008
    Name: Shoulders
    Start Time: 06:00 AM
    End Time: 06:50 AM
    Duration: 0:50
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name
    Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Seated Dumbbell Press
    #1 45 15
    #2 50 15
    #3 80 8
    #4 70 10
    #5 60 12
    Decided to try something new, and hit heaviest set first (after warmups of course) then worked my way down. I liked it quite a bit.

    2 Smith Machine Overhead Shoulder Press
    #1 140 8
    #2 100 10
    #3 70 12

    3 Reverse Flyes
    #1 25 12
    #2 20 12
    Tri-set

    4 Side Lateral Raise
    #1 25 12
    #2 20 12
    Tri-set

    5 Front Dumbbell Raise
    #1 25 12
    #2 20 12
    Tri-set
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    Day 43 - 1 scoop (in Water) upon waking 5AM, 2 scoops (in OJ) 7AM. 3 R4W caps 5AM

    Date: Jan 10, 2008
    Name: Arms
    Start Time: 06:15 AM
    End Time: 07:00 AM
    Duration: 0:45
    Location: The Press
    Mood: Normal - Not Great But Not Bad
    Notes:
    # Exercise Name
    Set Lbs. Reps
    1 Barbell Curl
    #1 60 12
    #2 70 10
    #3 90 8
    #4 115 6
    SuperSet 1

    2 Close-Grip Bench Press
    #1 130 12
    #2 180 10
    #3 220 3
    #4 130 10
    #5 180 6
    SuperSet 1
    Set 3 failed at third rep, stripped weight and completed as 4th set.

    3 One Arm Dumbbell Preacher Curl
    #1 20 12
    #2 30 10
    #3 40 8
    SuperSet 2

    4 Standing One-Arm Dumbbell Triceps Extension
    #1 20 12
    #2 30 10
    #3 30 8
    SuperSet 2

    5 Triceps Pushdown - V-Bar Attachment
    #1 50 20
    #2 50 15
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    How is this product effecting your workouts?
    x2,
    More detail on the effects of the product.The excercises and weights your are doing at the moment, dont really mean much to anyone.List the effects you are feeling .
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    Originally Posted by elstevo View Post
    x2,
    More detail on the effects of the product.The excercises and weights your are doing at the moment, dont really mean much to anyone.List the effects you are feeling .
    Yeah this is looking like those "training log" review threads with 90% info on set/reps, 10% or less on product feedback.
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    Originally Posted by elstevo View Post
    x2,
    More detail on the effects of the product.The excercises and weights your are doing at the moment, dont really mean much to anyone.List the effects you are feeling .
    x 1000. These logs are just pointless when people just record their workouts. There is a workout journal section for that. How does this product add/subtract to your workouts. How is your recovery, intensity.
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    Originally Posted by elstevo View Post
    x2,
    More detail on the effects of the product.The excercises and weights your are doing at the moment, dont really mean much to anyone.List the effects you are feeling .
    Thank you for the feedback, and that's a valid point.

    To me the strength gains are the primary thing I care about and what I have mostly been concentrating on. What would you like to see more of?

    I have been trying to limit the comments on how swollen I am or my endurance levels, as those seem to get repetative, particularly when you can't (or at least I haven't) really get/gotten greater pumps then what I got at the beginning.

    In terms of "intangibles", my recovery on ETHER is nothing short of amazing, both between sets, and between workouts. A 1 to 2 minute rest is more then enough, for everything including most heavy legs sets, to be ready to jump back in. I find my ability to do Supersets, and Dropsets increased as well. Also I can do a dropset, and be ready to hit the weights a couple minutes later.

    In terms of post workout recovery I recover in about half the time that it takes my training partner, where we normally take roughly the same time. As far as vascularity, and "pumps" I don't notice quite as much of an effect, but there is a minor increase in the muscle pumps.

    For R4W, it's somewhat more difficult for me to quantify, as I know I'm getting a concentration boost from it, but it very difficult to say how much of a boost I'm getting, as the energy is very clean. Honestly this product is hard for me to gauge, as I'm apparently so used to gauging energy supplements by the jittery/antsy side effects, that I end up wondering if it just a good concentration day, or the product.

    To me the real meat in in the lifts, things like lifting 95 lbs dumbells on an incline press for 8 reps (today, sorry I haven't gotten it up), as opposed to the 65lbs I did for 8 reps back on December 5th.
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    Originally Posted by Iron Draggin View Post

    To me the real meat in in the lifts, things like lifting 95 lbs dumbells on an incline press for 8 reps (today, sorry I haven't gotten it up), as opposed to the 65lbs I did for 8 reps back on December 5th.
    What everyone is saying even if you post ur numbers, post some type of comparision to previous numbers, not just numbers for the day because when looking at logs, people dont go back to search for the last workout with those same exercises to compare themselves. They also want some, any feedback on the products effects. Something is better than nothing.
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