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    WEEK FORTY :: Which Bodybuilder Do You Admire The Most?

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    Throughout history there have been some very inspirational bodybuilders. They have set examples for many of today’s bodybuilders. They have motivated us, pushed us past the point that we did not think was possible and most importantly, got us into bodybuilding.

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    Favorite, not easy, but it's a toss up between Arnold and Lou. As for my least favorite, it would have to be Kamali, I wish he would just shut up.
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    Cool i surprised myself...

    hello guys i have worked on this a solid night and day and was very keen to do this as my interest is bodybuilding and history to talk of the greats and who i enjoy most puts it all in perfect harmony so here is my article and i felt i needed this to be up here no point letting it sit on my computer so here it is

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    THIS IS TOTW NUMBER 40 DONE BY DALLAS68 ENJOY IT I DID!



    All my pictures are from an agreement by myself and the webmaster/administrator of the following website for the pictures of Lee Priest it will be easier for me to just provide the links anyhow. You may need to highlight and paste into your internet search button to view some pictures, they are worth the wait believe me.

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    The main site



    http://www.hardcorebodybuildingonthe...sofapriest.htm


    Who do you admire the most? Why?



    My admiration for these serious bodybuilders that deserve so much credit can go to many well known names there are countless others but these guy stick out for me, such as

    • Arnold Schwarzenegger
    • Lee Haney
    • Dave Draper
    • Steve Reeves
    • Sergio Olivia
    • Lou Ferrigno
    • Frank Zane
    • Serge Nubert
    • Flex Wheeler
    • Dorian Yates
    • Shawn Ray
    • Jay Cutler
    • Ronnie Coleman


    Though all these guys are very admirable and deserving bodybuilders I do look up to them more at their actual physiques than all the magazines and people have to say about them although with the many bodybuilders up there they are all already or soon to be legends to many people and rightfully so! I take history as an academic subject and when the two come together namely the history of bodybuilding and the bodybuilders who make up a part of it, it sparks my interest greatly.

    That is why I genuinely have a profound respect for a load of these great role models, physique-wise as well as this always will strike you first obviously. Some of these guys are pioneers of the close past and continue the legacy of bodybuilding to where we are now a truly interesting time, which involves mainly of course Jay cutler and Ronnie Coleman who are literally at the forefront of science in more ways than one and the main ingredient in the new wave of where bodies are going. I just hope this leads to a question that will be answered in the near future. Which way is bodybuilding going? I only hope upwards. We must remember those who came before us and that is what I hope to show of this great sports bodybuilders you only want the good anyway.


    MY LEGEND



    I still agree on one person more than others due to aesthetic appeal and all round perfection along with a pleasant and no holds barred attitude towards life

    (This is when im interested in more than just the body physically because he appeals to me so much as a role model)

    and the sport that he has such a role in, this ladies and gentlemen is the man with the plan and the one guy in my book that really goes under my favourite and greatest of all time of course this is my soul opinion and some may disagree but on this board with him talking so much to the board members on the one thread I believe him to have a huge fan base. I think you may have an idea to who I am speaking so fondly of! He is none other than the awesome

    Lee Andrew Priest McCutcheon (full name)



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    REPUTATION



    He has earned his reputation as the guy who does what he likes because he is enjoying his life and what’s happening around him and most importantly he loves his sport bodybuilding the very thing that’s pushed him through in the years but he takes it in a fashion that is very noble. He says what he says and always will he participates in this sport why not be a part of it, other than in the athlete’s side?


    HEIGHT



    Lee priest is not a tall guy standing in at 5.4 foot he is not a lengthy person at all. This does not deter him from making the most of himself and he definitely has he is a well built and massively muscled bodybuilder and he has proved that. The reason why I point out his height is that I am not of tall stature although I am taller than the main man himself I still am well short in comparison to other people, and I admire him for how he does not care what people think of his stature, that’s really remarkable. I would say that he has an advantage in all this because his body doesn’t have tall mans syndrome so his legs can get damn huge and ripped, and he can become as chiseled as he pleases, he is damn wide and built like as huge as any ox can be built. Lee says he may not get a really higher placing in the Mr. Olympia due to judges looking to the bigger, taller bodybuilder.
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    AGE



    It has been a structured regiment that he adhered to from the beginning; Lee started to bite the iron bug at the age of 12 to train for his shows. He went on to win 3 of his shows at the tender age of you guessed it 13! That’s awesome and it was obviously his path to go down which he has succeeded in greatly. He was born on July 6 1972 this means he is at the age of 33 or 34 so he still is relatively young in my mind. He may not be in the history books per-se but believe me he will have the bodybuilding world in a storm when he retires from the spotlight. I believe him to be already as he already pretty much is now an absolute legend. He as a young child funnily enough wanted to be a pilot.


    COUNTRY



    He was born in Newcastle, Australia raised in New South Wales, Walls End. And lived there for many years but currently resides in the United States of America. It is quite refreshing to know where he came from personally I don’t know many top pros that came from Australia to the American circuit, only a handful.

    FAMILY



    I do not necessarily want to divulge in this great mans past family life as his birth father did not stay in his life very long leaving at four years old even though he does talk on odd occasions joking about his fathers homosexuality to him in an interesting way

    Quoted saying “My father was a homosexual, but my mother thought she could change him. But I'm the first one to make jokes about it: I told my father that I was glad he married my mom, because otherwise I could have been wasted as a b** job. I think people are just a little too quick to judge sometimes, because I couldn't care less if someone is gay.” Source

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    His mother was a huge source of encouragement in his life and was a bodybuilder herself! So it ran in the family partly, he also has a sister two years older than himself. Lee has a Wife of his own who is a female bodybuilder and he has said they are to hopefully have a family of their own one day namely a child , he has been said to say he doesn’t know if it’s a boy or girl but he knows he/she will be short! I give them all the luck in the world.
    One time Lee and his mother competed in a national’s couple bodybuilding contest and won!


    HIS GRANDPARENTS



    His grandparents introduced him to weight-lifting and I praise them for that. He learnt from this new fond interest at a young age that through hard work reaped rewards through bodybuilding it became his obsession. I think that’s perfectly alright.



    THE VOICE



    Lee has definitely stuck to his guns in this very critical part of the drama of bodybuilding shows and in the dodgy parts of this sport. He is highly opinioned and im sure every pro is on a different level, the judges took perhaps out of context what Lee said about them such as that although he did say that “the competitors sleep with the judges and kiss asses to rank high” perhaps this comes from the crowd booing the judges of his poor placing and from being angry because I mean he is just huge and to not win or come in top three when knowing yourself and as well as knowing when fans know you should have that deserved spot in the top three, his comments lead to a 12,000$ fine which had to be paid before competing again. I mean in some shows you don’t even earn that much so I believe not only as an avid fan of his but for any professional bodybuilder it would be unfair to make a fine so hefty. As long as we have his voice then perhaps this sport can change for the better.



    THE PERSONALITY KNOWN TO ALL



    Lee is very much a people person when he wants to be, backstage he has been said to be quiet and serious, after shows he goes and talks to fans and anyone that will listen to anything he is saying for at least an hour or two, this is very good publicity and I do not mean that in a bad way, any true bodybuilder, athlete or any general really cool relaxed person would do this exact thing. I applaud him and wish I could talk to this phenomenon.

    In a photo shoot he did as a priest hence his surname, many fans were looking for him as soon as they found, a whole Japanese tourist bus stopped to take pictures, this may have been due to many of them getting excited and in awe that priests and church folks could get so large. Some of the church boys came by him saying goodbye father and praise you not knowing who he was. He took this all in good faith (no pun intended) and he as a side note is not against any religion the whole idea was for his surname. Even the real priest came out to see the proceedings and was very joyful of the whole idea of good triumphant over evil in some way or another.

    He has been very responsive on the forums and keeps coming back, he does go on a lot of forums on other sites as well to just let fans know what is happening in the world of the priest, if every pro would do this we may have less grudges with them. He has said one thing he could admire of himself is his ability to be funny and enjoys Adam Sandlers humor this is something which I find great, he has such a unique vibe about him that you cannot for one second not like him as a person, this humor personally to me is the funniest humor. That is the reason as to which I enjoy this icon so much.
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    How have they inspired you?



    These men of iron have inspired me by all putting themselves on the map and the spotlight. They encounter good and bad yet this comes with any celebrity type jobs. I walk into the store and look at the various muscle magazines, advertising their products, the latest interviews and any other interesting stories in the world of professional bodybuilding I am inspired by the guys in there and the others who have been mentioned on the internet or by word of mouth because I am able to be a part of it all in as much of a miniscule way I can stand up proud one day when Im older and bigger and say I am a bodybuilder, not caring about anyone else’s derogatory feelings.

    These guys inspire me and that’s all there is to it not a day goes by where I think its all worth it down your chicken and tuna because one day it will pay off, I may not have genetics like all the professionals and I don’t care for the gear some use I find that perfectly alright when not abused, but the idea of improving yourself and then able to go industrial and promote yourself with your body is awesome.

    You see these guys pumping out weights you have in your dreams, this is inspiring because it is achievable and the best part you can do it on your own, no one else has to play the part, no one else can stop you ( as far as im concerned) and there is no limit.

    These guys all have inspired me in one way or another and I would like to extend further as to why this is so.



    • Arnold Schwarzenegger

    the myth the legend he has been in my knowledge since I knew how to speak, even if I didn’t know all about him when I first heard of “Arnie” he is an awesome actor and appeals to me in the way he acts since I know him as a former bodybuilder, he has an amazing record in the competition side and the greatest of all Mr. Olympia which he won 7 times I may add though six in succession. He put the whole industry on the world map and catapulted it into the future. Through movies people knew him as a bodybuilder so it definitely worked. Governator that’s what he is called by nowadays since he became governor of California the home of huge waves, he kept in touch with his real calling through the Arnold Expos and perhaps political pressure lead him to drift from there although im sure he should bound back once a bodybuilder, always a bodybuilder. He inspires me because he has made such a huge success of himself, plus he has a very good physique. No matter if he used Deca.

    • Lee Haney

    his competitive record and all round brilliant physique plus he served as a member on presidents council very good. Has free summer camps for young teens and been a part of many different aspects of bodybuilding. Which I think is uplifting that’s what I like these guys don’t dwindle they stay on top and carry on with other interesting ideas.

    • Dave Draper

    the blonde bomber as they call him, is a phenom and has written articles on training and anything else, he still is in incredibly good shape in his older age, starred in movies, beat many other greats in publicity polls and went head to head with them all in many competitions such as Mr. Universe, IFBB Mr. America and Mr. World titles. He was a crowd pleaser as well such as Lee priest as you know I am fond of as a true people person.

    • Steve Reeves

    was called the most perfect classic physique of all time. This is a very profound statement and I tend to agree, he had set an example and based his ideal proportions on height and different ideals, such as biceps as large as calves and wrist a certain percentage to the bicep all parts are included and is very interesting, this is what I strive for. Find that article here

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    • Sergio Olivia

    has an impressive track record, and a small waist. He has a good X framed physique sweeping long back to small waist and large legs. Arnold regarded him as an incredible and perhaps one of the greats.

    • Lou Ferrigno

    personally to myself, he has a large chest and has a pumped look at all times, has very set abs.

    • Frank Zane

    had such a small waist this is a very good factor to have, in some pictures it seems as though he has a statue effect or bronzed god perhaps. He had a classic flow to his body.


    • Serge Nubert

    the main reason I have included this bodybuilder is quite funny, my friend who is a skinny bloke was skimming through my book showing me what he thought was an “acceptable” mass and he took this guy out now he is not exactly a swimmers body and I was surprised at this but then again that is quite good if he can accept that sort of physique then anyone can.



    • Flex Wheeler

    mass with pure flexibility, he does karate and has actually competed in fights, this takes away popular society beliefs of “muscle- bound” and this guy is truly a magnificent person to behold, his legs are out of this world, hence the name wheels the legs bound out then in. his arms are pumped to the max and he still retains composure in a way that is freaky.
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    • Dorian Yates

    the cause of the transition from pretty big guys to mass monsters, he has shown what you can do with your body. He as a teenager was involved in law breaking events and in prison formed his passion for lifting being rated as one of the strongest in the jail. Nicknamed the shadow he is a very tall and large competitor. I have more respect for him due to him for his huge and perfect back that definitely helped him win Olympia’s five times in a row. In a recent magazine he was involved with a debate on HIT or High Volume training. They had a pose with his back and I was blown away the very first time I saw this insane sculptured body. By the way he supports HIT.


    • Shawn Ray

    was a good all round athlete with good proportions and well he was just damned huge! He usually stayed near his contest weight and definition year round and this is impressive.

    • Jay Cutler

    he is my hopeful for the Olympia but he is still the number 2 bodybuilder on the planet that’s very impressive. He has come a long way and if he keeps on competing he shall surely get the gold he seeks so much, what can be said He rules the Arnold Classic and will strive until he finds his destination I believe he is big and defined enough for such an event.

    • Ronnie Coleman

    has come to my country for a tour and he was not in competition shape, but I will tell you I and many others stood on our seats as this monster took his belly tucked it in revealed insane abdominals and huge arms along with a chest that’s phenomenal. Then revealing his back that goes in stages first the traps then the lats and finally the widening, I could not believe it, in magazines they look big but not that big! I am very impressed with this incredible bodybuilder. I do hope he can get the record and break it but I still want Jay to win its hard to decide it is basically these two guys.

    Well there you have it these guys plus Lee Priest as my favourite make up my inspiration, these guys all help inspire me to follow what I want to dream of and I don’t let anyone drag me down, its all for myself.

    Which of their achievements are most impressive?



    Lee Priest went through questioning his life at twelve from finding about his father to being so committed to his sport and passion he follows today. He proved his mom wrong as he did give up karate and many other ideas as soon as he had to hit the stage but he obviously found his true calling and went for it, this is the biggest part of anything taking that next step.

    The biggest achievement I take from Lee is that he did what he did and he loves it and it is definitely what he wanted to do or destined to do, many people don’t live up to what they wish to do. To continue after criticism and speaking ones mind to the masses is very remarkable to say the least. I find him as a whole just damn impressive his abdominals I rate as the best in the business.

    He also says he uses gear which is fine but only two moderate cycles of strong steroids but not nearly the same amount as other guys, and I believe that (Why shouldn’t I?) plus recently he went to a supposed guru just to find out how other competitors get so cut and shredded and it is more diuretics and the usual gear, So this shows and im not saying those guys who use drugs don’t have to work harder but he is more focused on training eating and cardio he has amazing genetics to look how he does at his height.

    He is famous for loving KFC and other junk foods and then quickly whipping himself into shape before contest time, this is amazing in itself.

    Oh yes then of course my other incredible interest which im sure many young guys have is of another hobby that Lee is doing. He is a racing driver and a damn good one at that, Lee is possibly living the life I would dream to have he is a Racing car driver for a thrill and he is a bodybuilder competing at the highest level personally it does not get any sweeter than that. I am in awe and give him props for being such a successful guy not only lucratively but in other fields as well.

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    BONUS QUESTION: Who is your LEAST favorite bodybuilder? Without being too harsh, why do you not like them?



    This is a harsh question or at least difficult and im not completely sure who I do not want to see the presence of if I had to think it would be, Alex Federov the guy has been quoted as saying in an advertisement in Flex saying he shall take home the Sandow to Russia this year!

    The guy should try for maybe some low brow unimportant competitions he has no chance personally and has a long way to go I had no grudges with any professionals but this guy just made me laugh, his chest is no good, his legs are alright but I mean he still has nothing on the main two guys Jay and Ronnie.

    This may just have been a ploy to make people talk more of the upcoming Mr. Olympia so there are two sides to it I am not much of a hater especially with this sport but I would guess I am not impressed by those guys who use Synthol they are being stupid, and messing up their own health, gear can be cycled productively but Synthol is rubbish you stick in your arm to get a bigger fake muscle, that’s not bodybuilding that’s not being true to yourself and everyone else that’s not right.

    There has been a guy who had to have surgery and he had been injecting Synthol and there was a line of green rubbish running on top of his biceps muscle tissue. So please take what you please in moderation and honest knowledge and proper application but keep it real?


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    Good work Dallas- would rep you but I'm not allowed till I spread the love elsewhere first!

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    Smile Lee Priest

    in my apenion i think the most under rated bodybuilder is Lee Priest because is is only 5'4.I all so belive if he was five 6 inches taller he would place better because he would weight more. now being 5'4 he is about 210-225 in Competition with the total packege.But if he was 5'9 to 5'11 he would weight about 250 to 260 in Competition. but being short i think they should not look at how tall he is because in my apenion he has the total packege.In my apenion the most over rated bodybuilder is Ronnie Coleman because he is a taller bodybuilder and going to naturly weight more then lee.some of them Mr. Olympia were close for jay cutler to close i think to just say ronnie you won. Dont get me wrong Ronnie Coleman is a nice looking bodybuilder his wins are just to close for him to be the out right best. for ronnie being a little taller then lee he has a advantage he can pack me weight on his fram then lee can.the only reson ronnie has won so much is becaus he can add mass and has he hight to add it to his frame.lee on the other hand if he gets any bigger it would not look good in a competition because it would just not look right.

    Also for Lee Priest it was diffecult for him to became a pro because he was winning the Mr Australia at the age of 17 and 18 and the would not let him have his procard.Because they were saying he was to young to be a pro.if they would of let him be pro the i think he would have won more Competitions.Lee and ronnie have been pros for about the same time ronnie has won way more
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    • Flex Wheeler

    mass with pure flexibility, he does karate and has actually competed in fights, this takes away popular society beliefs of “muscle- bound” and this guy is truly a magnificent person to behold, his legs are out of this world, hence the name wheels the legs bound out then in. his arms are pumped to the max and he still retains composure in a way that is freaky.

    Just to correct you, he does NOT do karate. He does a mix of tae kawn do and Kempo. And he calls his style Kemp-Kwan-do. I have seen his fight in the expo and if he claims he is a karate master.. he truely is a disgrace to karate, because we karate people know how to fight, unlike him.

    That last part was my opinion on flex wheeler and should not be taken as a offense directed at dallas 68
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    Thumbs up Lee Labrada...

    Before I worked in the industry, my favorite bodybuilder was Arnold Schwarzenegger. Now that I work in the industry and know almost everyone, my favorite Bodybuilder is Lee Labrada.

    Lee's story inspires me, because he came from Cuba at a young age, and had to start a life with his parents in a new country with no earthly possessions except the clothes on his back. Like so many new Americans, the Labrada's essentially had nothing when they came to America, and they had to work hard as a family unit to support one another as each of them did what it took to be successful in a capitalist economy.

    After completing high school, Lee went to University and moved all over the country as he was trying to make his own way. After earning a degree in civil engineering, Lee took up bodybuilding, and during his competitive years he never lost sight of his beginnings. The phrase "Mass with Class" was made for him, and not only does Lee have one of the best physiques of all time, he is a classy, top-notch, A-1 stand-up guy who likes people and is always pleasant and respectful.

    Whenever I speak with Lee, I'm more impressed with him than before we talked. Every time that I meet Lee personally, I feel better about this industry, and I feel more empowered and positive than before we met.

    Lee is a down-to-Earth and honest guy, and when you talk to him in his booth he talks TO you instead of AT or DOWN to you like so many bodybuilders do. Sure, he makes products, but when he talks to you, he isn’t trying to “sell” you as so many sponsored athletes do. In an industry of over-inflated wind-bags and egomaniacal psychophants, Lee is an honest and positive guy who makes good products and promotes the healthy lifestyle with a smile and genuine sincerity.

    His physique, too, is inspiring and his dedicated work ethic speaks to the true dedication needed to live the healthy lifestyle every day.

    Some people may name Ronnie Coleman as their favorite bodybuilder, and others still will name Arnold. These are valid choices, but the true test of an amazing bodybuilder is whether he or she lives the lifestyle every day and in every way – whether he or she is a COMPLETE and BALANCED person in mind and body. Physique culture, after all, has its origins in Ancient Greek society, where the mind and the body were the focus of development, and the true definition of a bodybuilder (which I have written about several times) is one who lives the life and shines their light on a hill for the world to see, so that others too can be inspired by their dedication.

    There is no question that bodybuilding makes average people truly excellent people. It develops discipline and a hard-work ethic. It develops critical reasoning skills and it enhances the ability to plan for the future and to set goals. If done correctly and totally, bodybuilding is a life-long spiritual exercise that tests not only the body and mind, but develops the spirit to overcome adversity and to see the value and good in all things.
    In my opinion, Lee Labrada is the true bodybuilders bodybuilder – he’s positive, honest, hard working, down to Earth, and he actually cares about people more than his own ego. Not only that, but unlike so many unhealthy bodybuilders, Lee has stayed in shape since his retirement from competition. His physique is still amazing, but it’s his human qualities that make him my favorite bodybuilder of all time.

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    ............................

    Originally Posted by Kill_yourself
    Just to correct you, he does NOT do karate. He does a mix of tae kawn do and Kempo. And he calls his style Kemp-Kwan-do. I have seen his fight in the expo and if he claims he is a karate master.. he truely is a disgrace to karate, because we karate people know how to fight, unlike him.

    That last part was my opinion on flex wheeler and should not be taken as a offense directed at dallas 68
    thanx man i like to learn lol
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    The Greatest Bodybuilder of all time!

    Mr. Flex Wheeler! The greatest bodybuilder, who never won the Olympia.
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    George Eiferman: More than just a bodybuilder


    George who?
    I doubt that many of you will have heard of George Eiferman. His name might not be as well-known as that of Schwarzenegger, Yates or Coleman. But George was just as big of a star in his day. George was a genuine old-school bodybuilder, an iron pioneer, who won Mr America 1948 and Mr Universe 1962. He was also, in my opinion, the most inspirational and selfless ambassador that bodybuilding has ever had.

    Sadly, George passed away in 2002. He was aged 76. He is remembered today as one the great early physique stars, who went to great lengths to promote a healthy bodybuilding lifestyle to the general public.

    George’s legacy and achievements have encouraged me to develop not only my physique, but my personal character as well.

    An inspiration for hard work
    George Eiferman was, first and foremost, a bodybuilder. So it was only natural that the first thing that drew George to my attention was his physique. I remember the first photo I saw of him: it was a grainy black-and-white picture, posted on an old-school bodybuilding website. George was standing on a beach, looking relaxed and casual. He was hardly flexing, but the huge lats and chest gave notice that here was a man who had realised his full natural potential.

    The more I learned about George, the more I realised I had to stop making excuses about my own training. George built his physique old-school style, during a time when good bodybuilding knowledge barely existed. Even something as simple as protein supplements were in short supply, and even then the main ingredient was usually soy flour (yum!).

    As a man of the future, I had many training advantages that George did not. And yet, from over half a century ago, this vintage lifter was still bigger than most modern trainees. The missing ingredient, as I learned from George’s experiences, was hard work. Real hard work. So I tossed out my old routine and started thinking big. I started lifting hard, I started lifting heavy. Squats, deadlifts, bent-over rows, bench presses, military presses. I didn’t do a bicep curl or lateral raise for months. And I grew like never before.

    Every time I felt like I couldn’t lift a heavier weight, I reminded myself of a story I had heard about George benching over 400lbs cold, in his street clothes, because someone in the gym had challenged him to do it. Man, I just wasn’t working hard enough…

    An inspiration for even harder work
    I think that having a realistic perspective is very important to me as a bodybuilder. Some days, a workout can feel like the toughest thing on earth to do. At least, it used to be that way for me. But then I realised I was just a whiny little baby compared to George Eiferman.

    I found out that George was a hardcore natural bodybuilder. By that, I mean his entire physique was built on beef, chicken and bucket loads of milk. He was completely convinced that any kind of supplement was artificial and not worth taking. George’s conviction on this point was incredibly strong: he even refused to take blood pressure tablets when he was diagnosed with heart trouble.

    And here was me with my ultra-reinforced multi-vitamins and pre-digested olygopeptalicious whey protein. Me, who had modern supplement science to help me recover faster and work out harder than any old-timer did. I realised that it was my mind making all the excuses. My body could not be as tired as I used to tell myself it was.

    So I learned to blow that mental barrier away. If I’m working out now and start to tell myself I’m getting tired, I just think of old George saying, “Pffft. You think you’ve got it tough…let’s see how well your body performs on nothing but full-cream milk. And next time you want some Vitamin C, try eating a whole crate of oranges, you pill-popping wiener.”

    So, nine times out of ten, I’ll dig deeper and crank that weight to the ceiling. No excuses.

    A true ambassador against the odds
    George’s greatest achievement stemmed directly from his genuine love of bodybuilding. He used his passion to encourage others to lead a better lifestyle during a time when working out was unfashionable. Most people thought bodybuilders were insecure girly-men, and even medical opinion of the day warned against becoming “musclebound”. But George did not let his lack of money or people’s negative perceptions stop him from promoting bodybuilding as a healthy way of life.

    There was no such thing as a professional bodybuilder in George’s time. It was hard to make much money at all from the sport. Yet George scraped together what little money he had and started promoting bodybuilding across America. He travelled to every US state except Hawaii, stopping at high schools and colleges along the way to give health and fitness presentations to young people. George lived modestly during this time and drove beat-up old cars. Dave Draper, who once joined George for a tour, remembers thinking:

    "I'm wondering why a Mr Universe title holder is driving around in a beat-up ole clunker, but don’t say anything because I think it means he’s poor.”

    Through his promotional efforts, George became one of the first bodybuilders to earn respect and acceptance among mainstream society. He helped bring credibility to bodybuilding, and encouraged thousands to take up lifting long before the fitness boom of the 70s and 80s made it fashionable.

    A lifter for life
    George truly believed that lifting weights and good eating were two of the most important things a person could do for their health. And he lived by his beliefs, following them with complete dedication for most of his life.

    George first discovered weightlifting onboard a navy battleship at age 17. He had signed up to serve his country during World War II. Legend has it that when he was finally sent home, he had bulked up so much that his own mother did not recognise him.

    To cut the rest of the story short, George continued lifting weights well into his 70s, until poor health forced him to quit. He was a man who was always in shape. No-one ever saw George with an off-season bloat. There is a picture below of George that was taken a few years before he died. Make sure you check it out: he is in phenomenal condition for a “grandpa”.

    I would be happy to be half the man that George was, both inside and out. And I do try. George Eiferman was a big man, a great bodybuilder and, from all accounts, an incredible human being.

    Some of George’s achievements
    -- Mr Philadelphia 1947, Mr California 1948, Mr America 1948, Mr Universe 1962.
    -- Member of the IFBB Bodybuilding Hall of Fame
    -- Toured with popular entertainer Mae West and starred in numerous TV shows and movies.
    -- Founded a chain of successful Las Vegas gyms
    -- Peak condition: 5’7”, 205lbs


    BONUS question: Who is your least favourite bodybuilder?
    Gregg Valentino. No doubt about it, in my opinion. Nobody has done more to destroy the image of bodybuilding than this man. Anyone who believes bodybuilding is a freak quasi-sport full of insecure, image-obsessed drug abusers will use Gregg Valentino as Exhibit A.

    If you are one of the few bodybuilders on the planet who hasn’t heard of Valentino, he’s the bald midget with the humungous arms and shoulders. Valentino, aka Mr Synthol, regularly injects the intramuscular oil and takes truckloads of steroids to overcome a self-confessed “short man complex”.

    Valentino has appeared in the mainstream news media for steroid trafficking and, more recently, for dating transsexual pornstars. It was reported that Valentino prefers former men because of “their height, silicon breasts and inability to get pregnant”.

    Do I really need to continue telling you why this man is bad for bodybuilding?

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    Follow this link to see George still in great shape in his 70s: http://www.thecarguy.com/gallery/cg028.htm
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    Introduction
    Ever since the first concept of weight training to achieve a certain physique or to accomplish remarkable feats of strength, there have been extraordinary individuals who have stood out and become legends because of their amazing accomplishments. There are many bodybuilders who have built outstanding physiques and have gone on to win many titles and competitions. But for me, the person I would look up to isn’t necessarily the one sporting the largest and most ripped body. So yea from that you can probably guess that Ronnie Coleman isn’t on my idol list. The one bodybuilder I truly admire is Bill Pearl. Pearl was an old time bodybuilder who started lifting when he was eleven and even continued into his late fifties. His figure in his prime was excellent and Pearl also won many titles and competitions. Although he isn’t that well known in today’s generation of people who admire massive athletes like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman, Pearl was still in my opinion the most admirable person in the game.


    Why I admire Bill Pearl


    Bill Pearl started off like I did
    There isn’t just one reason why I admire Bill Pearl so much but quite a few significant reasons. First, I’ll start off with Bill Pearl’s early years. When he was eight, a strongman in a town show inspired him to be a bodybuilder and ever since that Pearl never let go of that dream. And in that time of the 40’s, there weren’t any gyms available where he lived, so at age 11 he started by using corn and bean cans and a sack of potatoes for different exercises, and I can also imagine he didn’t really know what he was doing. Bill also got a job digging ditches and other grunt work in hopes that he would get stronger and more muscular. And one day his friend who knew about his dreams of becoming a bodybuilder, (Long story short) showed Bill an issue of strength and health magazine telling him the secret to strength training was using dumbbells and barbells, which was shown in the magazine. Both of them got together with another friend and decided to buy a 110-pound weight set, and all three worked hard all summer to save up for the set and finally purchased it. He set up the weight set with apple boxes and a plank for a bench along with other common items to build the first home gym in town. Even though the weight set came with instructions and he had a clearer idea of how to weight train, he still didn’t know exactly what he was doing (For example it would take him 10 tries to do a clean and snatch once correctly dropping it several times in the process). To give you a quick summary of what Bill did next, he enlisted in the navy and was transferred to a station in San Diego where he met Leo Stern who was a weight lifting pro and ran a gym and taught Bill Pearl how to lift weights. So basically Leo corrected Bill’s way of lifting weights and showed him exactly how to weight train. With the help of Leo, Bill went into his first competition winning third. With that as a milestone, he went on to win many other titles becoming one the greatest bodybuilders in his prime.

    I also went through a similar thing when I was about the same age. When I was about twelve or thirteen, I remember wanting to get stronger and bigger after I found out that my max bench was laughable when a bunch of friends were trying to see who was stronger in our school gym. I wasn’t really born that strong or big and I didn’t really have the genetics to be extremely big or strong (Maybe because I’m Chinese and Chinese people aren’t exactly known for being the largest and strongest guys out there). But I decided I would start lifting weights to improve my strength and how big I was. Just like how Bill started out curling bean cans and not really knowing much about weight training, I started out with an old pair of fifteen pound dumbbells I could barely curl 6-8 times without cheating a little and doing pushups. I also did bench press on the floor because I had no bench, and shoulder press with dumbbells which I didn’t even know what muscle it worked and what it was called, because I just copied it off a guy I saw working out at some gym. I also had no clue what I was doing, which I’m sure happened to almost everyone when they started working out unless they had some personal trainer or something. While doing my total junk workout at home using practically nothing, I found out I was finally old enough to use this gym at a sports club. Just how Bill Pearl used his welfare bean cans and potato sack for working out, and finally got a home gym, I also started working out in a gym. But looking back now I have to admit the gym wasn’t at all good. It had one universal machine, a rack for barbells, a bench and a set of incomplete ghetto dumbbells (The set consisted of 3x 5 lbs. 2x 8 lbs. 2x 10 lbs. 4x 12 lbs. 1x 15 lbs. 2x 20 lbs. 2x 25 lbs. 2x 30 lbs. And finally a big leap to 2x 50 lbs.) And that was it. Bill Pearl had to improvise in his home gym and so did I, sometimes I used a shaky metal water pipe attached to the wall for chin-ups or I did it on the lat pull down machine. I also had to use a 5 and 10 lb dumbbell to make a 15 lb one. Even though I was using this gym I still was unsure of how many sets, reps and what exercises to do and sometimes how to do a particular exercise. It was exactly what Pearl went through in his home gym trying to figure out how to do certain exercises and still unsure of certain elements of weight training. For me learning how to lift properly took a while. I had been working out at the hole in the wall gym for about a year now, not really making huge gains because I didn’t really know what I was doing. The turning point came when some people at the sports club told me that the gym was no good and I should join another gym if I really wanted to get into lifting weights. I also decided that I should also learn how to workout properly, so I started reading a book written by Bill Pearl called “Getting Stronger”. Although the book was old school, it still gave me a good base on how to weight train (By the way this is an awesome book for beginners). I also looked on the internet for articles about weight training. That’s how I found Bodybuilding.com where I read tons of articles about how to put together a good training program, exercises to use, training splits and everything else I needed to know. I decided to join a way better gym that had everything I needed. As I worked out there more I kept learning a lot from my mistakes, from other people and by reading more articles. And after doing this for quite a while I knew exactly what to do each time I worked out. So basically I went through the same thing Bill Pearl went through when he left behind his ghetto home gym to Leo’s gym who taught him everything about weight training. I too went from a crapper gym to a good gym where I learned almost everything about pushing iron.

    So yea the only difference is basically that Bill Pearl went on to win bodybuilding tournaments and become one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time which I know I won’t do because I don’t want to be a bodybuilder for a living. Other than that how we started strength training and how Bill Pearl and I progressed was relatively the same.
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    His roid use was justified and he quit and still won
    Even though he openly admitted using roids in his book, he used it when it wasn’t illegal and when it was something new that no one really considered cheating (Remember this is in like the 50’s and 60’s). To him, it was a miracle drug that was tested successfully on cattle and as far as everyone knew was safe. Nobody thought of it as cheating or immoral and among bodybuilders of that time it was like using whey protein or creatine. Bill’s weight shot up as well as his strength levels. But there was a problem, he didn’t feel normal, and he also felt awkward, heavy and very stiff and not as flexible as he used to be. So he quit steroids but then went on it again remembering the fast progress he made earlier. He won the 1961 Mr. Universe title but felt unhappy with having to use steroids to win so he stopped using them, this time it was final. He then trained exceptionally hard to win the Mr. Universe 1967 and 1971 contests without the use of steroids while most of the bodybuilders he was competing against were hardcore roid users. That to me is amazing. That he found it in himself to say that winning a competition while juiced wasn’t as good as being natural. Then he won just on hard work while others were using roids. Bill Pearl was also very lucky in coming of steroids without having major health problems. For example a lot of the bodybuilders Bill was going up against suffered major health problems. Bill recalled that his friend who was also a bodybuilder, had to have his mammary gland removed because of roids. There was also a bodybuilder who had won several titles who died of cancer at age 38 because of juice and many others who had liver and kidney damage. He is a living example of how someone can still compete in bodybuilding and win without roids. That right there is a true bodybuilder, one who realizes roid use is not the way to go and goes all natural and still beats others who use it. Nowadays it’s hard or even impossible to find a bodybuilder who is actually true and doesn’t use juice. Plus when he did use roids he didn’t know better and it wasn’t even illegal. And I’ll say again that at that time it wasn’t considered cheating.

    He’s got a nice physique, got a good track record and still lifting in his late fifties and making gains
    As I mentioned before, Bill Pearl didn’t use roids (Well used them for a little while then quit) and he still built an awesome physique. Even today if you saw a guy like him in person you would say wow this guy is pretty huge. He might not have been totally ripped with bulging muscles like today’s bodybuilders but he is still considered quite built. And that was in the 50’s and 60’s before the time of advanced supplements like creatine, whey protein and multivitamins. So I would say for his time he did an amazing job. His track record is also very good. He has won quite a few titles and competitions. This is a summary of the titles and competitions he’s won in his lifetime:
    - 1953 Mr. Southern California - 1953 Mr. California - 1953 AAU Mr. America
    - 1953 NABBA Mr. Universe, Amateur - 1956 Mr. USA, Professional –
    - 1961 NABBA Mr. Universe, Professional - 1967 NABBA Mr. Universe, Professional
    - 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe, Professional - 1971 WBBG World's Best Built Man
    - 1978 WBBG Hall Of Fame - 1988 Pioneers of Fitness Hall Of Fame - 1992 Gold's Gym Hall Of Fame
    - 1994 Guest of Honor of the Association of Old-Time Barbell & Strongmen 12th Annual Reunion
    - 1994 The Joe Weider Hall Of Fame - 1995 Heidenstam Foundation Hall Of Fame
    - 1995 AAU Lifetime Achievement - 1996 American Powerlifters Federation Hall of Fame
    - 1997 International Chiropractors Association Sports & Fitness Man of the Year
    - 2000 Spirit of Muscle Beach Award - 2001 World Gym Lifetime Achievement Award
    - 2001 Society of Weight-Training Injury Specialists Lifetime Achievement Award

    So yea that’s 21 titles and contests won. Compared to some bodybuilders it might not be as much, but it’s still pretty amazing if someone can win all those. And he didn’t stop pumping the iron after he stopped competing. He lifted even into his late fifties (He’s in his late seventies now so I doubt he can still keep lifting) and still had a crazy physique for a fifty-year-old. All the fifty-year-olds in my gym are all fat, sluggish and have no clue what they’re doing. Plus they’re desperately trying to gain muscle they wished they could gain when they were young. To me Pearl demonstrated that nothing is impossible while still making gains in his fifties. Even in his fifties he worked out six days a week for more than 2 hours a day. Most people that age trying to workout like that would either be dead, dying or starting to die.



    How he inspired me
    Bill pearl first inspired me when I read his “Getting stronger” book which is the first time I had ever heard of him. At that time the gym I was using was a total dump and I didn’t really know what I was doing (For example I would do random exercises I saw other guys do). I did make some gains and get a little bigger. But when some people told me to join a different gym if I was serious about lifting and wanted to make good gains, at that point I knew I wasn’t making the gains I could be making and I felt clueless about how to lift weights properly. That’s when I decided to join a better gym and I read Bill Pearl’s book on weight training. I read almost every page that had to do with weight training and learned a ton of things. And I read a lot of articles on the net. Also when I looked at all the pro bodybuilders of today, I knew that it was impossible to get that big without roids. But Bill Pearl’s story made me believe that it is still possible to be big, strong and even be a champ even without drugs. Also at this point I felt discouraged about lifting since I wasn’t really going anywhere (Because I didn’t know how to lift properly). But with the information I got from his book and other articles, I joined a new gym with a way better idea of how to pump iron. I also made way better gains because I would have set goals and wouldn’t just do a random workout. Also the fact that Bill was fifty and still making gains made me feel that it’s never impossible to make awesome gains. His story of how he had to spend all those years curling bean cans, working out in his welfare hole in the wall home gym and finally being able to train properly in Leo’s gym gave me bits of inspiration. I felt discouraged because I had basically spent a year and a bit lifting weights without a clear idea of what to do without much increase in muscle or strength. But when I heard that story of how Pearl slowly learned how to lift and kept lifting even when he wasn’t seeing amazing results, it gave me the inspiration I needed to keep on lifting no matter what.
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    His greatest achievements
    Although Bill Pearl had many amazing achievements there are a few that stand out. This might sound repetitive, but in my opinion was never giving up on lifting weights and his dreams of becoming a bodybuilder. When he was eleven he started with lifting corn and bean cans along with a potato sack and he also got grunt work jobs to get stronger. And he did that for three years until he got his first weight set at age 14. Just imagine though, from age 11 to age 14 trying to get stronger by lifting cans and potato sacks, that’s an amazing determination plus he never got discouraged and gave up. He also says in his book that when he got his first weight set, he wasn’t seeing fast results he hoped for but he still kept working out and never missed a workout. He only began to get real instruction from a professional when he joined the navy at about age 18, who told him how to lift properly. So think about it 9 years of lifting without real proper instructions (Remember he couldn’t have just gone on the internet because there was none back then). That’s amazing how someone can stick to training for nine years without any kind of help from anyone or anything.

    However in his professional career, I think his greatest achievements were winning the Mr. Universe 1967 and 1971 without the use of juice. Even though almost every single competitor was using it, he won the competition without it. It is amazing in going to prove that it still is possible to win contests without using drugs even though you are at a disadvantage. His greatest titles he has won in my opinion are 1974 WBBG World’s best built man award and in 1978 entering into the WBBG hall of fame. His title as the worlds best built man shows all those people who think Bill Pearl was just some alright bodybuilder that he was the top in the world even in his late forties.




    Bonus question
    From the intro, you might guess that my least favorite bodybuilder is probably Ronnie Coleman. I do admit though he does have good physique and he is amazingly huge, but I’m not just saying that he’s my least favorite just to be different. There are a couple of reasons why I don’t really like him as much as a lot of other bodybuilders. First of all and the most obvious reason (Sorry if I seem repetitive) is that he is obviously on steroids. Although I have no doubt he works hard, his body doesn’t resemble truly what his body should be. And basically the only reason why he is that huge is because of a drug. Secondly he starts advertising for BSN which claims Ronnie Coleman credits BSN supplements for how big he is and his mass gains. He probably hasn’t even used the product and if he’s going to advertise for something then he should advertise for roids because that’s what got him that big. I hope I wasn’t too harsh there and I know that other bodybuilders have advertised for supplements but Ronnie’s endorsement was the largest ever so that’s why I picked him. And lastly if you’ve ever seen his gluts (Ass muscle) they look absolutely inhuman and unnatural I don’t want to say it but they look horribly disgusting even they are mammoth huge. So that’s basically why I don’t like Ronnie Coleman that much.

    Here are a few pictures of Bill Pearl in his prime and in his fifties still looking sharp.

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    From the intro, you might guess that my least favorite bodybuilder is probably Ronnie Coleman. I do admit though he does have good physique and he is amazingly huge, but I’m not just saying that he’s my least favorite just to be different. There are a couple of reasons why I don’t really like him as much as a lot of other bodybuilders. First of all and the most obvious reason (Sorry if I seem repetitive) is that he is obviously on steroids. Although I have no doubt he works hard, his body doesn’t resemble truly what his body should be. And basically the only reason why he is that huge is because of a drug.
    Here are a few pictures of Bill Pearl in his prime and in his fifties still looking sharp.


    Getting Stronger by Bill pearl and Gary T. Morgan, Ph.D.

    Dude.. just to shed some light for you..... EVERY PRO IN THE IFBB USES STEROIDS THESE DAYS.... IF YOU DON'T YOU CAN ONLY ACHIEVE A PRO SHOW WIN IN YOUR DREAMS....
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    Which Bodybuilder Do You Admire The Most?

    Throughout bodybuilding history, there has been a numerous number of inspirational bodybuilders that we all know. Just to quote a few are, Ronnie Coleman, Lee Priest, Flex Wheeler, Dexter Jackson, Arnold, Lee Haney etc. The list can go on and on. I respect everyone single IFBB pro to ever step on the stage. It takes years of dedication and commitment to do what these guys do. Hours and hours spent dieting and training just to hit that pose on stage takes guts that many of us can only dream to have.

    My most admirable bodybuilder

    His name would have to be Shawn Irvin Ray. He is without a doubt the most talked about personality in the world of bodybuilding. He has his fans and his haters because of his unique personality. He has done a lot of things for this sport. Holding seminars, muscle camps, constant promotion of the sport and he was even the athlete’s representative for the IFBB pros.

    The traits I like about him is his enormous amount of courage to say what he really feels, unlike some of the other pros that keep things to themselves in fear of placing lower in competitions due to politics. He is someone that is truly sincere about making a difference in the sport of bodybuilding. He has always tried to put pressure on promotors that do not play the winners of their contests or shows that change the prize money that was stated in the advertisement. For this , he is also highly respected by many of the IFBB pros that know him.He is also very admirable because he has competed in 12 Mr Oylmpias, being the only one in history to last that long. Usually someone that placed within top 5 in all major events would have retired by then, from too much steroids abuse or something else but not Shawn. His body is one of a kind. He unlike the rest of the pros that play the “size” game to impress the judges. He knows what looks best and he will continue to do so even if he is not placed 1st for looking that way. And may I say, he has the most beautiful body I have seen. His proportion and size is just perfect. Unlike one of the bigger guys like Markus Ruhl that aim to create the “freak” factor just to impress the judges.

    His opinions

    Shawn Ray is especially known for his strong opinions on judges rotation in the Mr olympia. He has proven time and time again that the same set of competitors would have been judge differently if there were a switch in the judges. He has also stressed many times that it is not his intention to question the judges abilities, but to allow the competitors to be judge from a different point of view.

    And that point is very truly too. Here is a simple example,

    During the 2004 Mr olympia, Kris Dim placed 12th and Markus Ruhl placed 5th. And one week later, Kris Dim managed to beat Markus twice in Europe and the only difference is the difference in judges in comparison to the Mr Olympia. So that proves that the different judges can actually change the standings of the competitors.

    IFBB Athetle’s Reprensentative

    Because of his reputation for being an outspoken character he was elected IFBB Athlete's Reps position in 2003 by the other IFBB Pros. But sadly, he bit off more than he could swallow; it wasn’t going to be easy at all. Just to become the Athlete’s Representative, he had to fly all over the world to get signatures from the IFBB pros to show that they approve Shawn Ray to be the Athlete's Rep and that he would represent them during the 3 annual meetings with the IFBB every year. And those expenses were personally, but it still got done.

    That didn’t go well with the IFBB. So what the IFBB did was to push forward the time of one meeting without informing Shawn. That meeting was especially important because it was a time where Shawn could bring up all the monetary issues concerning the other pros. This would involve, late payment by promoters, no payments, changed payments etc. It was a deliberate move by the IFBB to prevent Shawn from raising important issues like these during the meetings which could potential mean the rise in expenses for the promoters and sponsors. And the most frustrating point is that Shawn took pains to gather all the contact details on all the Pros including himself in case they needed to be reached, and Shawn didn’t even get a telephone call about the change in time.

    To make matters worst, Shawn never got the minutes from the meeting which he was promised. He only got a e-mail stating the issues that were addressed and none of it were the ones he brought up. Along with many other issues, he finally withdrew as Athlete’s Representative.

    The reason for stating this is to show how much Shawn fought for the athletes of the IFBB. Since elected in 2003 and only quit at the start of 2005. Shawn decided to call it quits since every sweat he put into the project was faced with deaf ears and almost no actions made. Now Since Bob C is the new representative, I truly doubt if he can do it as good as Shawn Ray tried to do so.
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    How he inspired me

    Shawn’s actions have taught me many things; not only things about bodybuilding, but also things that help me through times in my life.

    Perseverance

    Being the only person to have remained so competitive for 15 years in the IFBB, he has led to me to one conclusion. There is no short cut to success, hard work pays. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning and have to gulp down my protein shake, I really feel like saying “screw this”, but just thinking about all the things that Shawn ray had to go through all those years, with politics and still competing, I feel so pumped because I know whatever that I endure, it is not even comparable with the things he goes through.

    And also having to endure so much “nonsense” given to him by the IFBB, I was surprised it took a full year before he quit. The IFBB obviously only saw him as Shawn Ray and didn’t not respect him as the athlete’s Representative. Shawn proved through his actions that he was fully prepared to take on the position, but I guess the IFBB only saw him as a cause for more expenses for them.

    One example of his efforts to help fellow bodybuilders:

    “In 2003, for the Olympia, when I raised $10,000 for the Best Poser Award, Wayne DeMilia wouldn't allow me to give it away on stage. I said, you know what, instead of giving way $10,000 to one person, why don't we give away $2,000 to the 5 guys who don't get anything, the ones who finish out of the top ten. There were 15 guys in that show that year. He would not allow that, so instead I gave the $10,000 to Melvin Anthony a day after the Mr. Olympia. Wayne DeMilia, on the 11th hour, at the press conference, accepted Kerry Kayes offer of $1,000 from Dorian Yates Approved Nutrition, to the guys who finished out of the top 10, and Wayne said he would match it with another $1,000 for each athlete. This is two days out before the 2003 Mr. Olympia. I had been talking to Wayne months before the show? Wayne could of easily been able to give every guy who placed out of the top ten that year $4,000. So as far as I am concerned, he deprived five people out of $2,000 so that one could get $10,000.”

    (The above information was taken from an interview to Shawn Ray in 2005 .)


    Selflessness

    During the Ironman Pro show in 2004, Shawn Ray offered to present a prize of $3500 to the Competitor with the best Presentation with his own money. Although he was the Athlete’s Representative, he did not have to do this. He did it only because he wanted to award the person that has worked hard for it, that’s all. But in the end the promoter not only reduced the prize money but also change the name of the award, discrediting Shawn ray.

    Shawn Ray has held many charity events to help raise money for Children’s hospitals. One of the most recent ones would be the Shawn Ray's Charity Golf Event. It raised over $25,000 for the children’s hospital. The event gathered over 100 IFBB athlete’s and Shawn ray’s sponsors Vyo-tech nutrition also pitched in to help.

    So if not for Shawn ray and his generosity in donating money and organizing events like this to help the committee, I highly doubt there will be much donations made back to society in the name of bodybuilding and fitness.

    Great Contributions to Bodybuilding

    Although Shawn is not the Mr Olympia, he has not let that stopped him from playing an active role in making bodybuilding more mainstream. Shawn Ray constantly holds Muscle camps All over the world to allow people to know what bodybuilding is all about and be interested in it.

    Basically Muscle Camp is an event to allow gym enthusiasts from around the world to have a chance to workout with the IFBB pros. The participants would have a chance to get training and dieting tips too along with spending quality time with their bodybuilding idols. The main idea is to let people get into the sport and to make it more mainstream. I had a friend that joined one of his camps and he told me that the experience was not only incredibly informative, the pros were also very helpful and patient, in contrary to what people think of people that use steroids.

    Greatest Accomplishment

    In my personally opinion of Shawn’s greatest accomplishments would have to be the time frame between 1991-1994 at the Mr Olympia. In 1991, Shawn placed 5th. But with hard work and consistency by 1994, he was the 1st runner up for the title and till this date, it is highly debated if he should have won that show. During the 1994 show, Dorian had a torn bicep and his gut was sticking out. He looked absolutely horrendous compared to the previous years. But Dorian still won the show. Some say it is politics that Shawn didn’t get what he deserved. So in my opinion, his gradual improvement in physical conditioning would have to be his greatest accomplishments.

    Bonus question:

    This question is an extremely easy one to answer. It would go to Gregg Valentino. This guy is a disgrace to the sport of bodybuilding. For those of you that do not know who this man is, he is the record holder for having the biggest arms in the world, at 27 inches. Don’t start thinking that I am jealous of his hard work. He is a classic example of a hardcore Synthol abuser.

    While others work long and hard in the gym, incorporating giants sets, drop sets, super sets etc, he is in the gym TOILET injecting himself with his new shipment of Synthol.

    Since he is associated with bodybuilding, every time someone sees his photo they automatically think that we bodybuilders are just a bunch of steroids/ Synthol abusers that like to have a damaged liver. He brings a bad name to the sport, period. Till this date I am extremely careful not to associate myself with drugs for fear of being put in the same class as Gregg. I shall just leave it as such and not be too harsh on this him since I believe every man has a right to choose how they want to live their lives. But if you fellow bodybuilders see his picture, you are going to agree with me too.

    For those who do not know what is synthol:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ronharris8.htm




    References:
    http://www.shawnray.net/home2000/aboutme/aboutme.html
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/srinter.htm
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    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...20/ai_98488367
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    Dude.. just to shed some light for you..... EVERY PRO IN THE IFBB USES STEROIDS THESE DAYS.... IF YOU DON'T YOU CAN ONLY ACHIEVE A PRO SHOW WIN IN YOUR DREAMS....
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    THE SHADOW

    Some historians theorise that the ancient Olympic games were originally set up as part of a peace treaty including an ancient tribe known as the Dorians. Fierce competition replaced actual armed conflicts as sport became the battlefield. Their love of sporting competition was only matched by their emphasis on physical perfection. The ancient Greeks famously competed nude; the struggle for physical flawlessness was almost an obsession.

    Over two and a half thousand years later in a little known English village Dorian Yates was born; a child almost destined to channel the strength of the tribe that gave him his name to become the ultimate in human physical accomplishment; Mr Olympia.

    As such, Dorian Yates took the reigns of Mr Olympia from the legendary and record setting Lee Haney, to triumphantly raise the Sandow for 6 consecutive years. Through injury and controversy Dorian Yates is the only champion ever to have won the Mr Olympia title without residing in the US. This may not sound impressive but put into perspective with all the ‘politicking’ as well as hard work and dedication that is required to take home a Sandow, Dorian Yates was truly a great. The Shadow, or Dorian Yates as he was born, is by far and away my most inspirational character in bodybuilding history.

    However, that’s only part of the story. It is Dorian Yates’ scientific and reasoned approach to bodybuilding as well as his shear honesty about the sport which sets him apart from every other bodybuilder in my eyes.

    Dorian Yates was born in the rural setting of Hurley, Staffordshire, England, and such was limited in his training resources. The flame for bodybuilding was ignited after being incarcerated at ‘her Majesties pleasure’ in a youth correctional facility at the age of 19. Dorian natural strength helped him hold his own whilst under lock and key and once out Dorian Yates had found a new direction in life. From his first serious workout in 1983, it was only 8 years before Dorian was ready for Mr Olympia, where he came in second to Lee Haney. The next year he was to take the Sandow home and start a reign which was to last until another mass monster, Ronnie Coleman, was to step up to take his place.


    Back to the Drawing Board

    Dorian Yates’ training was careful, considered and unique. One of the things I find most inspirational about Dorian Yates is that from early in his career he was both brave and intelligent enough to dissect traditional bodybuilding methodology in order to find a way of working which suited him. Influenced by, but not copying, Mike Mentzer and Arthur Jones, Dorian Yates devised his own style of hybrid high intensity training. Brief, extremely intense workouts were to become the hallmarks of Dorian’s training ideology and, as some argue, his downfall. Dorian’s logical approach included keeping a training log; an idea which today many advanced bodybuilders find below them. However the strict logic by which Dorian Yates conducted a workout mean that nothing was left to chance.

    It is this methodical, considered approach to bodybuilding which I find both interesting and inspiring. Rather than throwing himself into standard routines Dorian Yates worked extremely hard at developing a strong routine before he even tried it out. He took the training secrets of the greats before him and examined them from every angle in order to develop one of the most formidable physiques in the history of bodybuilding. Although his workouts required nothing less than total commitment and unbelievable concentration, he found a formula which worked for him.


    Mass versus Tradition

    ‘The Shadow’ was a nickname bestowed upon Dorian Yates by Peter McGough (formerly of a British publication but moved on to become editor of FLEX magazine). The name came about as Dorian tended to appear at show and win, only to disappear again back in to the shadows until next time. However the name could have just as easily come about due to the Shear size of the man and his ability to eclipse everyone else on stage. Dorian Yates tore apart traditional ideas of bodybuilding aesthetics to present shear mass combined with symmetry and proportion to present a physique the like of which had never been seen before.

    Although only a half inch separated them in terms of height, Dorian Yates would come in to competition between 10-20lbs heavier than Lee Haney ever did, and it showed. The classical proportions that distinguished a world class bodybuilder, from Larry Scott in 1965 to Haney’s retirement in 1991, were to be eclipsed.

    With this it was not Dorian Yates’ physique which was the most impressive thing about him. Don’t get me wrong, his physique was awesome but this was only dwarfed by his attitude. Dorian Yates had the strength and determination to take on the long established traditions of the IFBB bodybuilders and win.

    One of Dorian Yates’ lasting legacies was emphasizing the back as a body part which could make or break a champion. Many before him had neglected their backs somewhat but Dorian, with his highly logical approach to bodybuilding, took back development to its limits. Today no champion is complete without fully developed lats.


    A Mentor

    Dorian Yates is renowned being an inspiration bodybuilder for taking a more thoughtful approach to the sport than most. Having authored Blood and Guts and A Warriors Story and having his articles published regularly in FLEX magazine Dorian Yates is a great and accomplished teacher of bodybuilding. His techniques, which were considered unconventional at the time, allowed him to develop simply the most impressive physique in the world for 6 years in a row and regularly run seminars and gives talks in order to give others an insight into his training ideology. Although his hybrid high intensity training is not for everyone, everyone can learn something from the ideas behind it.
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    Honesty and Integrity

    In my opinion Dorian Yates is one of the most honest men in bodybuilding; a trait I consider extremely important in any person. Dorian Yates openly admits to being a part of a ‘skinhead gang’ in his youth, although he categorically states that this was out of a teenage desire for recognition rather than any kind of racist statement.

    The 1994 Olympia was one of the most controversial in recent history, with Dorian being placed first over an aesthetically superior Shawn Ray. Dorian’s torn bicep had prevented serious upper body workouts for several weeks prior to the Olympia and he came in looking distinctly bloated. For many Shawn’s victory was in the bag but it was Dorian that took the Sandow. Even after the Shawn Ray’s serious disappointment and subsequent months of depression in the immediate aftermath of the loss, they became close friends after Dorian’s retirement after the ’97 Olympia, and have remained so since; further testament to the kind of man Dorian Yates is.

    “I realized that he [Dorian Yates] was not a punk rocker
    but an intelligent and caring person.
    Dorian is a better person than he is a bodybuilder
    - and with six Sandow statuettes to his credit,
    that tells you how much I value his friendship”


    Pro Bodybuilder Shawn Ray
    FLEX Jan 2003



    There is one controversy that remains constant throughout the sport of professional bodybuilding, regardless of the competitor; steroids. Steroid use and abuse is an inevitable fact of professional bodybuilding. Although past champions have come out in the past to admit to its use Dorian Yates is one of the few to admit it with such candour. When asked, Dorian Yates will reveal pretty much his entire history of steroid use, barring dosages. This is out of a conscious effort to prevent others without the intimate knowledge of controlled substances from abusing them and possibly hurting themselves in an attempt to mimic Yates. Dorian Yates is a class act from all perspectives and for this he has a great deal of my respect.

    Overcoming the Odds

    The one phrase best describes how Dorian Yates has inspired me is ‘triumph over adversity’. As a child Dorian’s father died and later he was sent to juvenile detention for his involvement in a riot. He overcame these odds to set a new course in life. Faced with tried and tested training methods Dorian went back to the drawing board in order to devise a new way of training which suited him. Lee Haney and the champions before him had set a precedent of the athletic physique; a tradition which Dorian challenged and destroyed with his massive build. Dorian Yates’ intense training style led to injury upon injury, culminating in a torn tricep only weeks before Olympia 1997. He came through to win, albeit controversially, and retire as 6 time champion. Ultimately Dorian Yates does things his way and, more often than not, it works.

    In the Temple

    Although Dorian Yates retired from professional bodybuilding in 1997, he is still an active member of the bodybuilding community. In 1987 Dorian Yates took over management of the Temple Gym; the place where he performed his first ever workout, and has been in charge ever since. Not only is Dorian’s advice and experience on hand, but so is a huge variety of equipment to suit all needs (including a custom made 1000lb calf raise machine!). Popular amongst serious athletes, the Temple Gym is renowned for being one of the most hardcore places to train in the UK.

    “I don't have an idol in bodybuilding…
    I have an idol in business, and that's Dorian Yates.
    He keeps his name going after his
    [competitive] career,
    and he's making a lot of money now even after he retired
    from the stage.”


    Pro Bodybuilder Markus Ruhl
    FLEX July 2004



    As stated earlier, Dorian Yates also travels the world to give talks, seminars and exhibit at expos in order to give some insight into his bodybuilding philosophies. In 1999 Dorian Yates also signed with the company now known a Chemical Nutrition. Rather than developing their own versions of standard formulas Dorian Yates looks to devise a more imaginative and scientific basis for the range which now carries his name- Dorian Yates Approved. Although I do not agree with a lot of the ingredients present in some of the range CNP and Dorian Yates have produced, many of them are quality supplements.

    Achievements

    • 1990 IFBB Night Of The Champions, New York - 2nd place
    • 1991 IFBB Night Of The Champions, New York – 1st place
    • 1991 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Orlando, Florida - 2nd place
    • 1991 IFBB English Grand Prix, Nottingham – 1st place
    1992 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Helsinki, Finland1st place
    • 1992 IFBB English Grand Prix, Nottingham – 1st place
    • 1993 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Atlanta, Georgia – 1st place
    • 1994 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Atlanta, Georgia – 1st place
    • 1994 IFBB Spanish Grand Prix, Madrid – 1st place
    • 1994 IFBB German Grand Prix, Duisburg – 1st place
    • 1994 IFBB English Grand Prix, Nottingham – 1st place
    • 1995 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Atlanta, Georgia – 1st place
    • 1996 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Chicago, Illinois – 1st place
    • 1996 IFBB Spanish Grand Prix, Madrid – 1st place
    • 1996 IFBB German Grand Prix, Darmstadt – 1st place
    • 1996 IFBB English Grand Prix, Nottingham – 1st place
    • 1997 IFBB Mr. Olympia, Long Beach, California – 1st place


    From this huge range there is no-one achievement that stands out form the rest, except maybe his first Olympia win in 1992. This achievement stands of most for me because Dorian Yates was taking on a notoriously closed system whereby competitors were of a similar mould. Dorian Yates’ extreme physique was revolutionary and he broke a long line of well proportioned athletic physiques with his shear mass; a legacy which continues to today. And he did all this without residing in the US.


    Dorian Yates is truly a bodybuilding great. His personality, morals, commitment, logical and scientific approach to the sport and awesome physical development make him a giant of the sport long after his last appearance on stage. Acknowledged amongst former and current competitors, industry professionals and the public alike, the sport is bodybuilding is a much better place for having the Shadow, Dorian Yates, involved in it.

    “The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bullsh*t bodybuilder.
    He backed up everything with his physique.
    He silenced his critics with action.
    He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style.
    He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time”


    Pro Bodybuilder Mike Matarazzo
    Speaking about Dorian Yates
    FLEX Oct 2003

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    BONUS QUESTION: Who is your LEAST favourite bodybuilder?

    The Ramblin’ Freak Gregg Valentino

    Gregg Valentino was a great bodybuilder. Pictures from his past reveal a physique which much more experienced athletes strive for. But something went wrong.

    Gregg Valentino has a variety of nicknames in the industry, from 'the Ramblin’ Freak', 'the man with the biggest arms in the world' to 'the most hated man in bodybuilding'. It is not Gregg’s physique I dislike, or even his attitude- in fact every article and interview I’ve ever read of his put him over as a happy and pretty funny guy… no problem there. Although his personal life has been extremely controversial in the past, I don’t begrudge a man that wants to live his life a little differently. What I dislike about Gregg Valentino is the same thing which gives me so much respect for Dorian Yates; honesty and integrity.

    Early pictures of Gregg Valentino reveal he was a great bodybuilder. However, between then and now his physique has developed beyond belief. Gregg Valentino admits to regularly cycling steroids and that, combined with his genetics, are the reason for his freakish body. Personally, I don’t believe him. He has become somewhat of an outcast in the bodybuilding community and continues to deny ever having enhanced his physique with anything more than steroids, workouts and an extreme nutritional plan- claims which others in the industry find ludicrous. I don’t think it’s my place to suggest what it is that has given Gregg the physique he has today, although a quick Google search will tell you what most people think.

    Ultimately I think that Gregg Valentino is an extremely poor role model for anyone looking into the sport. He optimises the ‘easy way out’ and his physique presents nothing but the wrong idea to those looking into developing their bodies. Everything that Dorian Yates is, Gregg Valentino certainly isn’t.
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    Who do you admire the most? Why?

    The bodybuilder I admire the most is Steeve Reeves. I had heard about him prior to his death in 2000, but having read about him and seen an example of his film work recently on Open Access TV it is clear to see that he was the only example of bodybuilding done in the classic way.

    How have they inspired you?

    When Steve Reeves died in May 2000 I found out almost instantly as the news broke during the BBC's Breakfast programme and that weekend they showed "Hercules". I decided to find out if there were any people who remembered his work first hand and so set up "The Steve Reeves Memorial Group" on YAHOO Groups. Within a matter of weeks, the membership had reached over 100 and when I had to retire from the group to pursue other bodybuilding interests, the membership had grown to over 250. It was the memories that were posted in that group that inspired me to become the unoffical Kofi Annan of Bodybuilding (as said by Thomas Acosta in a recent posting on his own YAHOO group)

    Which of their achievements are most impressive?

    Steve's bodybuilding awards which consist of winning the Mr. Pacific Coast in 1946, Mr. Western America and Mr. America (AAU) in 1947, Mr. World in 1948 and Mr. Universe (NABBA) in 1950 represented the leapboard that people such as Arnie and Dorian Yates needed to bring the sport to the mass media today. In fact I would go so far to say that without Steve Reeves, the Mr. Olympia contest would be nothing more than a story in a muscle fiction archive.

    BONUS QUESTION: Who is your LEAST favorite bodybuilder? Without being too harsh, why do you not like them?

    There is only one person who can fit this description. Gregg Valentino. Following the instructions about not being too harsh, the reason why I dislike is summed up in five words. Big Biceps, but not muscled!
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    i just realised that the question required us to attached pictures... so here are mine....

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    the before photo of gregg valentino
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    the "freak" he has become... claims that he doesn't use synthol... r i g h t..
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    the great shawn ray and his well defined body and perfect proportions
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    Originally Posted by ho_124
    DId you read the rest of it too? why dont u read a little closer

    dude i was trying to point out to you that when i read your answer to the bonus question, you sounded like one of the reason you dislike ronnie is because he is amazingly huge and he uses steroids... not really a fair way to judge how you dislike someone right? considering the fact that almost everyone else uses steroids lies about it too.
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