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    ZMA and Sleep Aids

    ive just started ZMA. actually, i just popped my first dose. The bottle says, Strength Fuel w/ZMA (twinlab of course). i also popped a melatonin. i work nights and melatonin helps me get to sleep. sometimes, not often, i have to go back to work 8 hrs after i get off so i resort to something stronger like nytol. do you guys think either of these will adversely affect the benefits of ZMA? yes, i keep calcium intake at least an hr. from my ZMA intake.

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    look in the ingredients of both products, if calcium is there, it will be a slight problem. I have only found one melatonin product that doesn't have calcium in the ingredients. Most do.
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    I used to sleep really well when I was taking ZMA...but some people find the opposite effect.
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    Originally posted by AimHighUSAF
    look in the ingredients of both products, if calcium is there, it will be a slight problem. I have only found one melatonin product that doesn't have calcium in the ingredients. Most do.
    dude, thanx for the heads-up. i went on about avoiding calcium and there i was taking calcium WITH it! you're right, the melatonin DID have calcium. I think it had b-6 as well. so, i guess that means my first dose was a waste. sheesh. well, thanks to you, I'll know better next time. thanx a mill!!!
    Anyone get anything outta ZMA?
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    Don't expect any grand results from anyone using ZMA, however, it should be used to keep important BB hormones at optimum levels. More often than not, it is not dramatic, but still a healthy choice.
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    dramatic cost

    Originally posted by Younggunz
    Don't expect any grand results from anyone using ZMA, however, it should be used to keep important BB hormones at optimum levels. More often than not, it is not dramatic, but still a healthy choice.
    it better be 'dramatic', it cost enuf! oops, sorry. im VERY miserly LOL. wal-mart has a good price on it, based on the comparisons i made online - twinlab strength fuel w/ ZMA 90 caps $15. yea, ive seen that lots use it post PH cycles.
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    Well, make sure you aren't getting one that has calcium in it. Every Zinc product I've seen at walmart has some sort of calcium in it. Target is a good place to get a brand that has no calcium.
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    Originally posted by Younggunz
    Well, make sure you aren't getting one that has calcium in it. Every Zinc product I've seen at walmart has some sort of calcium in it. Target is a good place to get a brand that has no calcium.
    this is 'strength fuel w/ ZMA' by Twinlab and it doesnt have calcium, if thats the 'zinc product' youre a referring to.
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    Oh, I thought you were making your own ZMA...which is better option anyway.
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    intresting option

    Originally posted by Younggunz
    Oh, I thought you were making your own ZMA...which is better option anyway.
    tell me what you buy/do to make your own. sounds like a cool option. id guess its cheaper too. the minerals have to be in perfect ratios, correct? at least to arrive at the same formulation thats been proven to work in university studies ie 2.5 times greater strength gains than non-suplemented group plus measured testosterone increases of 30%.
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    Well, I wouldn't let those studies give you a big head. The results you will get from ZMA are anything but dramatic. It is a good option for normal, everyday health though, and it may prove to give some benefits in the long run as far as strength and mass.

    There is a great thread about homemade ZMA started by K(same). Do a search. I think it is called "ZMA is a rip off", or at least something like that. You will find more stuff there about it then you will ever want to know.
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    PS...if you can't find it, let me know.
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