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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    For what it's worth... the faster I grow, the more circulation issues I have.
    Agreed^^^^^I have been feeling some numbness in my arms and legs as of late. It comes and goes.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    For what it's worth... the faster I grow, the more circulation issues I have.
    Very true. Whenever you are on anything that helps you grow at breakneck speed you will sweat and feel warm or flushed.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    For what it's worth... the faster I grow, the more circulation issues I have.
    That's good to hear and is very possibly what is causing the pain for me. I definitely have never made these kinds of size gains this quickly before.
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    Day 7

    Weight: 182

    Great traps/abs/forearms workout. Productive workouts with moderate strength increases seem to have become the norm with this stack. My legs have also had no pain today which I am very happy about. Weight is down 1/2 pound from yesterday which sucks. If it continues to drop I will increase my calories to 3800-4000.

    I think I am going to add in Green Bulge in the last 25 days of the stack(6 pills daily). What do you guys think?
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    Originally Posted by dwm230000
    Day 7

    Weight: 182

    Great traps/abs/forearms workout. Productive workouts with moderate strength increases seem to have become the norm with this stack. My legs have also had no pain today which I am very happy about. Weight is down 1/2 pound from yesterday which sucks. If it continues to drop I will increase my calories to 3800-4000.

    I think I am going to add in Green Bulge in the last 25 days of the stack(6 pills daily). What do you guys think?
    I have not yet tried Geen Bulge but the user feedback so far appears to be positive, so it would seem to be a good option. Another option would be Omega Thunder.
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    Originally Posted by dtrain13
    Agreed^^^^^I have been feeling some numbness in my arms and legs as of late. It comes and goes.
    When my shoulders are thick (for me anyway), I often find my arm falling totally dead asleep when I rest in the wrong position.. Sometime I wake up in the morning and the thing in completely numb and useless as a rock.. Wierd ****.
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    hey llewellyn do antioxidants effect x-factor? for example x-factor added with white blood?
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    Originally Posted by WorkoutMD
    I have not yet tried Geen Bulge but the user feedback so far appears to be positive, so it would seem to be a good option. Another option would be Omega Thunder.
    I have used a few bottles of Omega Thunder and I am a big fan of it. But, I would like to try something new and I've always wanted to try a Magnesium Creatine Chelate product so I think I'm going to go with Green Bulge. I was worried that the creatine was a little underdosed at five pills(You cannot tell how much of it is creatine because it's a proprietary blend). But, I am going to dose it at six pills and I am relatively light so I think it should go well.
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    Originally Posted by w_llewellyn
    When my shoulders are thick (for me anyway), I often find my arm falling totally dead asleep when I rest in the wrong position.. Sometime I wake up in the morning and the thing in completely numb and useless as a rock.. Wierd ****.
    Bill, thanks for checking out my log. Would you mind commenting on the supps I am taking/stopping while on X-Factor, specifically whether or not I need to stop the joint supps? I would really appreciate it. Here is the list.

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    Supplementation:
    Supplements that I take currently that I will stop taking for the trial(because of X-Factor):
    - Sesathin
    - Fish Oil
    - Glucosamine
    - Chondroitin
    - MSM
    - Celadrin
    Note: I will also be stopping creatine for at least the first half of the trial(not because of X-Factor). I am not someone who believes in cycling creatine but I have been taking some form of creatine for at least the past two years straight in my estimation. I think at some point it may be beneficial to take a short break and I figure now is as good a time as any. I may start taking creatine again during the second half of the trial(I'm leaning towards Clout), but am not sure yet.

    Supplements that I take currently that I will be continuing during the trial:
    - Whey
    - Multi
    - Vitamin E
    - Vitamin C
    - Diphenhydramine HCL (sleep aid - taken occasionally)
    Edit: There were a few supps I forgot when I first wrote this. Here they are:
    - Insopro-R(R-ALA)
    - ZMA
    - Amp(occassionally)

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    Day 8

    Weight: 182

    Biceps/delts workout went great. Today was the first time I could feel increased soreness during and between sets. It kind of freaked me out for a second before I realized what it was. During rep 3 or 4 on the third set of my first exercise my biceps started burning like I had taken the set to failure. I thought I was going to have to stop but the next rep went up very easily and burned even more and so did the rep after that. It felt weird but by the end of the workout I was looking forward to it with each set. I definitely felt it in my biceps more than in my delts, but the feeling was still noticeable in my delts. I am curious as to what the soreness will be like tomorrow. The only time during this trial that I have felt an increase in DOMS the next day was in my biceps. My legs are also still feeling normal.

    If my weight drops or goes unchanged again tomorrow I am going to up my calories to 3800. I am not really worried about putting on a little fat during this trial. I want to pack on some mass and with mass will come at least a little fat no matter how clean I eat. That's just the way it is.
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    Originally Posted by dwm230000

    I think I am going to add in Green Bulge in the last 25 days of the stack(6 pills daily). What do you guys think?
    Well I am only on day 4 but thus far I would recommend it. I am dosing it at 7pills/ed with 4pills/ed of white blood and am pretty impressed already. Check my log out if you like.
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    Originally Posted by dtrain13
    Well I am only on day 4 but thus far I would recommend it. I am dosing it at 7pills/ed with 4pills/ed of white blood and am pretty impressed already. Check my log out if you like.
    I have been checking out your log and a lot of the the other Green Bulge logs. The feedback has been good from what I've seen and so have the logs. Controlled Labs definitely chose some good members to send their product to.
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    Day 9

    Weight: 182.5 (I am going to up the calories to 3800 anyway.)

    No DOMS at all today. I don't really know if that's good or bad, though. I had a very good chest/triceps workout. My flat bench press finally increased which seemed to be the only thing lagging as far as strength gains. I did have the soreness during the workout again. It was not as extreme as my biceps felt yesterday but was definitely there. Tomorrow will primarily be an off day. For some reason my knees are feeling incredibly good so I may attempt a few very light squats and calf raises(nothing major though).
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    I have pretty bad DOMS in my chest today. I did 45 minutes of cardio and sweat my ass off(nothing new). My knees were not feeling that great afterwards so I decided against trying the squats. Not much else to report.
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    Weight: 183

    Good back workout and definite soreness during and between sets. Weight is slowly increasing which I am pleased with. My knees are not feeling as good as they have been(probably because the X-Factor is starting to kick in) which I expected. They were not bad enough that I had to cut cardio short or anything but I am starting to notice some pain.
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    Day 11

    Weight: 183

    Good back workout and definite soreness during and between sets. Weight is slowly increasing which I am pleased with. My knees are not feeling as good as they have been(probably because the X-Factor is starting to kick in) which I expected. They were not bad enough that I had to cut cardio short or anything but I am starting to notice some pain.
    Good to see that the weight is going up. Keep on eating!!
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    Originally Posted by Actual Size
    Good to see that the weight is going up. Keep on eating!!
    Thanks, Actual Size.

    Day 12

    Weight: 183.25

    Delts/biceps today. The workout soreness I felt in my delts today caught up to what I have been feeling in my biceps. Hopefully that continues in tomorrow's chest/triceps workout. No DOMS at all from yesterday's back workout. I am very happy that I am feeling the soreness effects(while working out) of X-Factor this early in the cycle. I didn't expect to feel anything for at least two weeks. It definitely gives an added motivation to feel something working when lifting. I haven't seen any huge strength gains so far, but my strength is moving up gradually with each workout.
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    Thanks, Actual Size.

    Day 12

    Weight: 183.25

    Delts/biceps today. The workout soreness I felt in my delts today caught up to what I have been feeling in my biceps. Hopefully that continues in tomorrow's chest/triceps workout. No DOMS at all from yesterday's back workout. I am very happy that I am feeling the soreness effects(while working out) of X-Factor this early in the cycle. I didn't expect to feel anything for at least two weeks. It definitely gives an added motivation to feel something working when lifting. I haven't seen any huge strength gains so far, but my strength is moving up gradually with each workout.
    Good job, bro. Solid log. Oh and BTW Green Bulge is a winner IMO.
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    Good job, bro. Solid log. Oh and BTW Green Bulge is a winner IMO.
    Thanks dtrain and that's good to hear about Green Bulge. I just placed my order for a bottle today. I am going to add it to the stack on day 26.

    Day 13

    Weight: 183.25

    Leg pains were back today. They were not as intense as before but managed to annoy me through most of the work day. Chest/triceps training went well but the soreness was not as noticeable as it was during yesterday's workout. No DOMS from yesterday's workout either.
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    Weight: 183.5

    Off day. Noticeable DOMS in my chest from yesterday's workout, especially in my upper chest. No pain in my legs at all today.
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    Weight: 183.5

    I'm bumping the calories up to 4000 starting tomorrow. Traps/abs/forearms training went fine but I am feeling a little burnt out. I am going to take another off day tomorrow and then hit the weights again on Saturday. I will be taking midpoint pics in ten days(Day 25), and will post them soon after that.
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    Day 17

    Weight: 184

    Biceps/Delts Today. It was probably my best workout since I started this log. Strength increased, and the soreness that I felt during the workout was the most intense it has been thus far. My knees are beginning to feel a significant amount of pain throghout the day, but it's not something that I can't deal with. I am cutting back on the cardio a little, though.
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    Day 18

    Weight: 184

    Chest/triceps workout. The soreness in my triceps was much more pronounced today than it has been. No DOMS from yesterday's workout at all. I got a really bad calf in my cramp after I got out of the shower tonight. Don't know exactly why, but thought it was worthy of noting in case anything of that sort continues.

    If there is anything else that you guys who are reading this would like me to report on a day-to-day basis then let me know in here. I am pretty much just keeping the daily updates confined to my weight gain/loss and whatever soreness or DOMS I am feeling. I will be posting pictures from days 25 and 50 later on. Along with those, I will give measurements and the weights I am using on my lifts at those intervals.
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    Day 19

    Weight: 184.25

    Back workout today. I definitely felt more intense soreness in my back than I have before. The pumps I have felt the past week or so while lifting have definitely been better than any NO product I have ever tried. DOMS in my chest today from yesterday's workout. I am excited about taking pics in a few days. I think there will be a noticeable difference.
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    Originally Posted by dwm230000
    Day 19

    Weight: 184.25

    Back workout today. I definitely felt more intense soreness in my back than I have before. The pumps I have felt the past week or so while lifting have definitely been better than any NO product I have ever tried. DOMS in my chest today from yesterday's workout. I am excited about taking pics in a few days. I think there will be a noticeable difference.
    Do u plan on putting the pictures on the net?
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    Originally Posted by Actual Size
    Do u plan on putting the pictures on the net?
    Of course. It may take me a little while to get them on a disc to post them on here, but I will have them up a few days after taking them.
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    Day 20

    Weight:184.25

    Off Day. I still have DOMS in my chest from lifting two days ago. No DOMS in my back from yesterday's workout. I can feel pain in my knees every time I put any kind of pressure on them, but when I am just walking around they are not that bad. I haven't had any pains in my thighs for the last week and hopefully that will continue.

    O/T: Could someone give me a bf% estimate on my before pics in page 1 of this thread? I have never had it checked and I have always been curious. Please be honest. I will not be offended.
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    Day 21

    Weight: 184.25

    Delts/biceps today. Strength is still increasing slowly but surely. I really hope that adding in Green Bulge in a couple days will help with more significant strength increases. Not much else to report. No DOMS today and the soreness during the workout is the same as it has been.
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    Day 22

    Weight: 184.25

    Chest/triceps today. Nothing new to report. No DOMS from yesterday's workout. My weight seems to be stuck. I am sick of slowly upping my cals. I am going to 4500 tomorrow and I am going to stick with that until Day 50.
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