This subject comes up often enough that we should simply accumulate a list of everything that should be done, and how everything should be handled, for the novice competitor. Please add things that I have forgotten, and when everyone is done, I will compile it into a comprehensive ‘how to’ guide if others are willing.
The first thing you should have is a coach, and if you have a decent one, you need to be paying attention to them, not faceless strangers on the net. Finding a coach can be both easier and trickier than it sounds. Many superior athletes turn out to be lousy coaches, so what to truly look for in a coach is how many successful athletes they have produced. PL coaches are few and far between, and where to find them can be difficult. If you have a meet in mind, call the meet director, and they will be able to provide you with names of many of the local regulars, who might either be willing to help you personally, or put you in touch with someone who will. The remainder of this is for the athlete who does not have a coach. Go and watch a meet if you have the chance. Most occur on weekends, and it is worth the Saturday drive to see what one is like.
The next thing you need to know are the rules, which means you need to know the federation you will be competing in. A listing and summary of many federations with links to many homepages can be found here: Most federation websites have the rule book on line, and it is fairly standardized. Weight class are the same, etc. Major differences include, but are not limited to things like the press vs. the start command (IPF and affiliates use start, many old-school still use the press command), flight order (traditional flight vs. modified progressive, etc.), equipment allowed, and weigh-in times (which may also vary if you are trying to set a record - so pay close attention here). If you do not know the rules before hand, how can you expect to succeed? And go to the meeting before the competition, as the meet director may have one or two idiosyncracies particular to the meets they put on, which are normally minor, but can be enough to seriously irritate the meet director. If you think that this is in any way unfair, most meet directors are usually former competitors who no longer have the fire to compete, but are giving back to the sport in a way that is both financially and emotionally draining, as well as time consuming. In its own way, putting on a meet is more effort than competing, so if you have any complaints about a meet director not wanting people to (for example) get chalk everywhere like they are the powerlifting version of Peter North, either suck it up or go put on your own meet.
Make sure you know, and follow, the commands
The next thing you need to know is how to find the place. You might be surprised, as some meets can be held in fairly obscure locations (based on what the meet director can beg, borrow, or steal in the way of space). Some are nice, some are crowded and cramped, and some are unusual yet enjoyable (I once helped run a deadlift meet outside in front a local Irish pub, once upon a lovely summer afternoon, and the bar itself did quite well). If you are going to weigh in advance, you might be required to do this at the gym that is hosting the meet (often difficult to have calibrated scales at more than one location) so you need to know this as well. Information should be on the application (a number to call, and I have yet to meet a director who does not return calls before the meet). Get there early, and get to weigh in early. Pay early, many meets have either a cut-off point or a fee for late entries (trophies cost money, you know). In short, everything you can do in advance, do it. This way the day of the meet all you need to do is get your attempts in and lift.
Making weight. If this is your first meet, just lift, do not worry about weight, you have enough other worries. Do not kill yourself (or at least trash your strength levels) to make a lighter weight class to break a record. If you have visions of your name on the cover of magazines, your face on the front of cereal boxes, and hordes of nubile young women chanting your name as they peel of their clothes, you can get over that right now. Your first meet is the greatest learning experience of your PL career, so focus on what you can do, not what you might be able to do.
What to wear: Most meets require a singlet and t-shirt (although the t-shirt is often not required for the deadlift), and some organizations require that the t-shirt not have a pocket. Few meets will allow you to lift in shorts (makes it harder to judge depth when squatting, as well as the fact that baggy shorts can make it difficult to tell if your bench featured a butt raise, etc.). Learn what is required in advance. Many places on line sell singlets cheaply. Get one well in advance to make sure it fits.
Powerlifting gear: Squat suits, knee wraps, bench shirts, etc. are a subject all on their own, and far beyond the scope of what I have the energy to write about at this time. If you plan on using some or all of this sort of thing, you need to ensure that it conforms to the rules (pre-meet inspection as well) as well as have someone there to help you with it. While often strangers will be willing to give you a hand, asking someone you just met to help you get into a squat suit is pushing the limits of hospitality.
Get your attempts in on time. Usually, you must give your openers at weigh in, and have one minute after your attempt on the platform to get your next attempt in. Do not automatically assume that if you miss a lift it will automatically be re-entered as your next attempt, as you have the option of increasing the lift. Generally, once you enter an attempt, you cannot change it (I write in pen for that very reason), with the exception of the final deadlift attempt, which can usually be changed twice. Also remember (I have seen people unaware of this) that if you bomb in a lift, you are out of the competition.
What to lift. Your openers should, especially at your first meet, essentially be your final warm-ups, because the number one rule is to get on the board. Allow me to make that more obvious: your opening attempts should get you on the board, so you should be able to make them with ease. You have two more chances to increase the weight, so do not waste your first one. Lift with your head, not your ego. If you miss an attempt, find out why - ask the judges. Then repeat the same weight. While you have the option of increasing even though you missed, why play with fire? You are probably going to be even more nervous after a missed attempt, so keep it as simple as possible. And, on a personal note, if you miss an attempt, handle it like an adult. Do not yell, scream, and swear about the unfairness of life and how you are a poster child for the abused and misunderstood. I have no trouble throwing someone out of a meet for acting like this, and neither do many other judges.
Fourth attempts: As a general rule, many organizations allow a fourth attempt to set an American or World record. This usually requires a successful attempt within 20lbs. of the previous record. If you achieved this on your second, but got buried on your third, be kind to the spotters and loaders, and do not waste everyone’s time and effort with a repeat attempt that will bury you again. The spotters are the last people you should be irritating, if you really think about it.
Order of lifting: On single day meets, there is no need to worry about what day you are lifting. On two or more day meets, you need to know what day you are lifting (which will affect weigh-in, by the way, as well as what platform you will be lifting on for multiple platform meets). As far as lifting order, I am only going to discuss flight order here, as it is the most common. The squat comes first, with everyone getting their opening attempts, followed by second and third attempts. Should anyone go for a fourth attempt, this may be mixed in with the third, or follow the third at the directors/judges discretion. There may be multiple flights, so all lifters for the day will complete all squat attempts before the benching begins. The same holds true for bench attempts, followed by deadlifts. There will often be a break in between lifts (squat, bench, and deadlift) but not always, so pay attention.
What to eat: Many meets will have something, but it may not be something that agrees with you. Plan accordingly. Do not make any strange dietary changes for your first meet. If you read in some magazine that a combination of braised panda groin and candied yak rectum would provide you with an unbeatable strength combination on meet day, do not tell me about it. What you eat should provide you with energy while not filling you up excessively or bloating you. A combination of simple and complex carbs are best, without too much fat (delays gastric emptying), or be too hard to digest. Fruit is a very common source, with bananas being very popular. If you have food that you like, bring it in a cooler, along with plenty of water or simple things to drink. Avoid sugary sodas, as the last thing you need is an insulin crash before your final deadlift. And do not do anything stupid for dinner the night before, either.
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Thread: Your first meet.
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11-03-2007, 05:30 PM #1
Your first meet.
Last edited by Arlecchino; 11-04-2007 at 07:29 AM.
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11-03-2007, 05:32 PM #2
How you do in a meet will be based on a ton of factors beyond your control. Nothing like training very hard for a small local meet and having a world champion show up to test his progress in your weight class. Do not take it badly in this case, because if you are a world champion, you are probably not wasting time reading this. If you become one someday, by the way, remember me in your will. Whatever place you get, it is better than you would have done if you did not compete at all. As Musashi once said “Today is victory over yourself of yesterday, tomorrow is victory over lesser men.” Accept your place with courtesy and grace, this is the true mark of a champion.
Why compete? This is the most common question we get, or at least ‘Are my numbers good enough to compete?’
- Yes they are.
By simply stepping up on the platform you are doing something that more than 99% of the population ever will, what does that tell you? Remember earlier about the first meet being your greatest learning experience? If you do not try, you will never learn, why cheat yourself of this experience? You will not only learn what it is like to go to a meet, and here you will learn things you never will in the gym. You will also meet some of the few people who share a common interest with you, and if you are looking for advice here, odds are you do not know too many of them in the real world. This is a great way to change this. And if you wind up competing in the same area for years on end, local meets often wind up being something like family reunions, but everyone actually has a common interest. From your bothers and sisters in iron, you will be able to learn from them (both from their successes as well as their failures) including numerous little ‘tricks of the trade’ that are easy to overlook.
The heart of powerlifting is the platform, and the only way to truly know what it is like is to step up onto it. You have little to lose, and very much to gain.
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11-03-2007, 05:38 PM #3
A meet checklist can be found here.
Edited to add:
Something else I forgot: Most meets will require you to join the federation. There is usually a nominal fee for the year. Find this out in advance. A non-sanctioned meet rarely presents the opportunity for setting anything other than personal records, and will not allow you to qualify for a larger meet (regional, national, or world, etc.). However, they can still be excellent learning experiences. The one problem with non-sanctioned meets is that certain standards can be, well, lax. I have seen this happen in the past.
Edited to add:
Comprehensive listing of federations:
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/pow...ng-federationsLast edited by Arlecchino; 11-03-2007 at 06:40 PM.
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11-03-2007, 06:36 PM #4
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11-03-2007, 06:41 PM #5
Well, thanks, but I am certain I forgot a whole bunch of crap, so more feedback would be good. I can only edit the first part until the window closes (I actually have no idea how much time can elapse before I can no longer edit) so the quicker people point out the thinks I overlooked or have other sorts of constructive input the better. I will, of course, credit sources.
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11-05-2007, 09:49 AM #6
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11-05-2007, 10:29 AM #7
only thing I'd add is good rule of thumb seems to be that 1st attempt should be something you can easily triple.
i also agree w not cutting weight for your first meet. i just did my first meet a few months ago and was glad i decided not to cut. mt BW was in the 180's (missed 181 weight class), but ended up setting a novice record for 198's in the squat. i'm cutting for my next one next monthLast edited by andhen2003; 11-05-2007 at 10:53 AM.
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11-05-2007, 10:38 AM #8
I think we are focusing on the wrong ways to attract people to the sport. We don't need pro, we don't need the Olympics, but good groupies would be a 1000% improvement.
I would add a couple of things to your list.
#1 Don't get into too technical (or tight) gear for your first meet. Time for that, should you choose to lift geared, when you are stronger and more experienced.
#2 If the fed allows, ask the judges what you were red lighted for, the judges will usually be helpful.
#3 Be respectful and polite to the judges, spotters and meet help. Whether you agree with the judges calls or not. If you must throw a tantrum, do not do it on the platform.
#4 Be there on time, but don't be surprized if the meet starts late and runs long.
#5 If at all possible, stay for all of the awards. Leaving immediately after you get your trophy is rude.
#6 Weigh the plates you use at your gym. It is not uncommon for 45's to be 3-5 pounds off (or more). If your gym plates are all -5, what you think is 405 is really 365. Makes for a really hard opener.
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11-05-2007, 11:24 AM #9
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Keep an eye on how the flights are running during the meet to ensure that you aren't warmed up too soon or rushing your warm-ups because your flight is starting.
I definitely agree with #3. Being part of the meet staff can be a thankless job. Being cordial and civil to not only the spotters, but to the judges as well can go a long way.
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11-09-2007, 12:49 PM #11
I just did my first meet so I'll toss in a few things that I don't think were above:
1. Have somebody go with you even if they know nothing about powerlifting. Your mind will be going a million miles a minute and you need somebody to keep you organized. I gave my wife a checklist of all my attempts etc. This really helped.
2. Wait for the judges and don't get in a hurry. I missed a PR on squat b/c I didn't wait for the squat command.
3. Bring food. I brought peanut butter sandwiches and a lot of water. Also consider bringing some caffeine. I brought cold coffee in a thermos to have before deadlifts. A meet will last all day and the adrenaline will eventually wear off.
4. Talk to everyone, don't be a dick. You are a newbie. Try to learn as much as you can. You might find a good group of people to train with that you never new existed.
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11-16-2007, 11:40 AM #12
Yay glad i looked in this thread, i have my first meet 2 weeks tomorrow, its the
BRITISH BENCHPRESS AND DEADLIFT RECORD BREAKERS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Just a quick question as i didnt find it in the posts above;
When doing attempts what should you go for? is it a triple for first attempt, ur current record for ur 2nd attempts, and the next a pb depending on what you feel you can lift?reps4life: Ayudha
brb OGC'in
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11-16-2007, 11:45 AM #13
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11-16-2007, 12:52 PM #14
I can't see a reason to throw a tantrum, ever. On or off the platform. Suck it up and prepare for your next lift. If it it was judges call that pissed you off, ask what happened. You probably broke a rule or didn't complete the lift properly. If you screwed yourself up, then learn from it. There is no need to yell and scream or knock stuff around.
Being cordial to those around you is simply being a good human being. I try to be nice to every single person at a meet no matter who they are or what they lift. Some guys you give more space to, because you don't want to break their concentration or focus, but there is always time to tell someone they did a great job or to offer a tip to a newer lifter if you wait for the right opportunity.
As a judge, I'm not giving white or red lights based on how I feel. If someone is a dick, a hot babe, or my best friend, it doesn't matter. I judge the lift, not the person.
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11-16-2007, 01:06 PM #15
Your opener is something you can make half asleep, after an entire bottle of Nyquil, while bloating, itching, and cramping (even if you are a man). It should be that easy. Advice I give novice lifters is to treat your opening attempt like your last warm-up.
Hard to say after that. I know by feel what sort of day I am going to have. If the first attempt feels heavy or light, I base my second attempt accordingly.
Your third attempt should always be a PR attempt. That is why you are there, yes?
However, assuming you are competing against someone (and this is not something you worry about in your first meet) this changes, of course, as sometimes the need to be more conservative can change the attempts you make.
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11-17-2007, 04:42 AM #24
Ask the judges as soon as you finish the lift. If you wait til later, they are probably not going to remember. There is time between lifters when the weights are being changed, etc, to take a few seconds and ask. Often, I will tell a lifter or their handler why I red lighted them as they leave the platform.
"watch your butt coming off the bench" "your feet were moving all over the place" "uneven extension on the lockout" "you missed the rack command" etc etc. I'm there to help a lifter as much as I am to judge them, so if I can give you a reason on why you missed a lift and it helps you get your next one, I'll do it.
Also- on the bombing question. If it's a local meet, they will usually let you keep competing, but you can't set any records or qualify for awards. If it's my meet, I know you trained hard and I'll let you continue. You can still set personal records for yourself and gain experience for next time.
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11-19-2007, 04:15 AM #25
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Not all feds allow you to approach the judges. Make sure you know the policy of the fed you are lifting in before you do.
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