getting ripped without cardio

**97LT1** · 08-13-2002, 12:18 PM

I feel the same way.

**Luke530** · 08-13-2002, 02:10 PM

ya wanna lose fat fast... do not cardio... simple...

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or get some usnic acid... that stuff works well too...

nothing beats DNP when it comes to fat loss... but I would not recomend it unless you are extremely experienced and you know exactly what you are doing... and overdose on DNP means only one thing... death... and an overdose is very close to an effective dose... so it's risky and should not be taken, once again, unless you have lots and lots of experience and are going to be responsible... plus the **** is ****ing next to impossible to find...

**TheGuy98** · 08-14-2002, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Luke530
ya wanna lose fat fast... do not cardio... simple...

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or get some usnic acid... that stuff works well too...

nothing beats DNP when it comes to fat loss... but I would not recomend it unless you are extremely experienced and you know exactly what you are doing... and overdose on DNP means only one thing... death... and an overdose is very close to an effective dose... so it's risky and should not be taken, once again, unless you have lots and lots of experience and are going to be responsible... plus the **** is ****ing next to impossible to find...

ill stick with cardio, i like working hard and getting results

**97LT1** · 08-14-2002, 07:12 AM

A safer, smarter choice.

**Luke530** · 08-14-2002, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by 97LT1
A safer, smarter choice.

if you put it that way... definately... but it is the best... no arguments there

**97LT1** · 08-14-2002, 07:32 AM

Maybe, but it's not even worth mentioning.

Coke is also a great fatburner and appetite control product.

**Luke530** · 08-14-2002, 07:39 AM

check the nutri section 97... I got a post for ya...

**97LT1** · 08-14-2002, 07:40 AM

Gone*******************

**TheGuy98** · 08-14-2002, 04:12 PM

i must see thread

**FireFighter671** · 08-18-2002, 07:03 AM

Use Supplements, Hydroxycut works for me

**TheGuy98** · 08-18-2002, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by FireFighter671
Use Supplements, Hydroxycut works for me

seriously!?!?! i used it and had little results

**97LT1** · 08-18-2002, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by TheGuy98

seriously!?!?! i used it and had little results

I have used it with good results. Only thing is that i got very hungry after i stopped using it.

**TheGuy98** · 08-19-2002, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by 97LT1
I have used it with good results. Only thing is that i got very hungry after i stopped using it.

yeah, i dont think i followed the direction on takeing hydroxycut..now im more informed

**97LT1** · 08-19-2002, 07:51 AM

They work the best with a clean diet.

**TheGuy98** · 08-19-2002, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by 97LT1
They work the best with a clean diet.

hell yeah!
so far so good on my cutting cycle, its been a week and i see difference..weird eh? but i eat almost no carbs, high intense cardio, lots of protein with my glutamine and i use a fat burner...

but, i wont get mass gains while cutting, i know this, but could my weights go up, as lift heavier while im cutting, or will it stay the same or decrease

**97LT1** · 08-19-2002, 08:48 AM

Sure they could go up.

**TheGuy98** · 08-19-2002, 09:18 AM

alright, thats good to know..it'll make me train harder i think..

thx again!

**97LT1** · 08-19-2002, 09:38 AM

No prob!

**TheGuy98** · 08-20-2002, 07:14 AM

hey man, i got a prob with my bench program..

yesterday i tried 8,6,4

instead of 10,8,6,4

but i had trouble on the last set, even tho i put the same weight...but i lifted heavier on my incline DB press, makes no sense to me???

i read in a thread a routine like 4,6,8 go high to low?? i know your an experience BB, so...can i have your imput...

and BTW thanx for the help on the diet and stuff, woah i lost some Blub!!!

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 07:22 AM

Blub?

Well, people respond diffently to different sets. I have problems doing that as well. It's a strength issue. I don't worry about this while cutting. You will get much stronger while bulking. Just keep doing the sets as is. I'm really not an expert at sets.

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 07:24 AM

People say i'm a big boy. That in itself makes my drive to lift decrease. I'm at 195 now, and peopl still think i'm above 200. Gotta love glutamine.

**TheGuy98** · 08-20-2002, 08:39 AM

lol

yes blub..still a bit to go...more like excess, cuz i lost about 65LBS in all...

hmm, yeah i notice while i was buking my strength went up big time..i mean i was adding weight everyweek..not extreme amounts, but good enough...

195...thats your bench??

well, i thought u were a pretty decent (size) guy...cuz u know a good deal of info...

but i've always had trouble increasing on bench..i dont want to bench 300LBS..well maybe later but for now i just want some sort of gains, itll come later (bulking cycle that is)

glutamine is great...where would we be without it...

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 09:34 AM

No no, 195 is my weight. And i know alot about sups, diet and nutrition. I just started lifting seriously about 6 months ago. I have been on and of for about 10 years now. And i never used Phs.

**TheGuy98** · 08-20-2002, 10:16 AM

oh oh, ok that makes more sense...me the past 2 years (almost 2) i ve been on and off...for about 5 months i was only able to hit the gym 2 times a week...now i just restart in june..like hardcore..lost alot of muscle and weight went down...

but yeah you know a boat load about supps and nutrition...

ph's..i dont even wanna learn about em..thats cool tho all natural

you cutting or bulking now??

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 10:21 AM

I've been cutting for 9 months now. I do plan to start my very first bulking cycle in the fall.

**TheGuy98** · 08-20-2002, 11:56 AM

wow 9 months, thats long...how are your results??

when u cut, whats your carb intake for the day???

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 12:03 PM

I was around 245. My carbs vary with my cardio and energy levels. Most of the time they are moderate. I chose to lose the weight slower than i ever did. That way, it would come back as easily as before.

**TheGuy98** · 08-20-2002, 12:31 PM

thats great..50LBS gone..nice nice

ok moderate...hmmm cuz i noticed after i started bulking i gained weight really fast, cuz i was on a n carb diet then i began to eat like 200 carbs a day...

now im back on no carb diet..and i do like 20-30mins cardio 4 times a week....

**97LT1** · 08-20-2002, 12:34 PM

You gotta have carbs buddy. On your cario days go up like 50, even more. Carbs are your friends with cardio at 4 times a week.

**TheGuy98** · 08-21-2002, 07:52 AM

ok ok...ill try that...like carbs before workout...now im taking in about 30 carbs before workout..

i up it to about 50-60 carbs...more energy and nutrition for the body..

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