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    Name: david4zero8
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    Weight: 207lbs.
    BF%: 16%

    First off i have been lifting weights on and off for over 8 years, but have only been serious/consistent for the past 1 1/2 years.

    Yesturday was my last day of a 6 week cycle of Rebound XT (a cycle in which i increased my overall lean bodymass and strength substantially). I was asked to try out ActivaTE as an "inbetween" cycle supplement by Sldgehmr. This 4 week cycle of ActivaTE started today and will be followed with another 6 week cycle of Rebound XT. I will do my best to express to you my experience with ActivaTE, and update this log regularly.

    Currently I am on a 4 day split:
    Day 1: Legs and Calves
    Day 2: Chest and abs
    REST Day
    Day 3: Back and Traps
    Day 4: Shoulder and Arms
    REST Day
    REST Day

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    Fish Oil jell-caps
    The Total EFA
    ON's 100% Whey
    Creatine (But i am off it for the duration of the ActivaTE)

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    Day 1: 06/14/05

    Didn't get much sleep last night. Took my first dose of Activate [10 pills of activate, 4 fish oil caps, and 1 multivitamin(15 pills total)] with breakfast this morning at around 6:50am. The recommended dosage on the bottle is 5 pills 4 times a day (20 pills total). I asked Robboe if i could cut the dosage down to 10 pills 2 times a day and he said it was fine, but the recommended dossage was the ideal.

    Nothing to report about the Activate yet, but it is only day one, and i've only taken one dose thus far. I would like to note that about 20 minutes after taking the activate, my lower back and right hip joint was sore for some odd reason. We'll see if this is still a factor in the next couple of weeks.

    As far as "burnt-tasting" burps go, i had some earlier this morning even though i took the ActivaTE with a meal. To make things worst, the normal fish burp now became a burnt fish burp. lol. It's ok though; it doesn't really bother me.

    Today is a rest day, so i'll report back tomarrow.

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    When you see this: Would it be ok to split the dosage into 3 doses. For instance, 5 pills in the morning, 5 in the afternoon, and 10 at night (all with meals)?
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    Day 2: 06/15/05

    I had no trouble sleeping last night. Sleep was actually really REALLY deep. Throughout the day yesturday, after taking my doses of ActivaTE, i did notice feeling a lot warmer then usual. I woke up a couple of times stratching myself last night. I remember the same thing happening the first couple of days on Rebound XT also. I did notice a nice "pump"/ feeling after taking each dose, especially the two pm doses. I usually react to a product fairly quickly, so i'm not suprised.

    Today is leg day so i'll report back after my workout later this evening.

    Morning weight today is 206lbs.
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    Day 2 continued...

    Well i literally just got done working out (i workout at home in my garage). Today was leg day as stated in the pervious post. The weight lifted, in terms of poudage remained the same as my last leg workout. What i did notice was after squats, my lower back was extremely PUMPED...almost to the point of feeling a little pain. Weird huh? I mean i normally always feel a slight pump in the lower back after squats, but today it was something different. And again after the first am dose of ActivaTE this morning my lower back was aching for a little bit.

    BUT let me tell you; i had, and am still having, a crazy (in a good way) pump in my legs after this normal routine.

    Also i'm feeling a lot more "aroused" then usual. I wont go into detail, but when your upper thighs rub together...you get the idea. lol. This is also not normal to me.

    I've decided to split my dosage up into 5 pills 4 times a day as recommended on the bottle. So far i've taken two doses: one at around 7am this morning with my breakfast and another with my lunch after i got back from class around 12:45pm.

    Well that's enough for me. I'm off to make my post-workout protein shake. It's also time for another dose of ActivaTE.

    Edit: Well i just got out of the shower. I'm still noticing shedding, which started during my standalone cycle of RXT.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe
    You should see how much of my girlfriend's hair comes out, and yet she still has a full head of very long hair.
    Yeah i hope it's nothing too big. It's just weird to have it happen all of a sudden.
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    Day 3: 06/16/05

    Morning weight is 206lbs again. Had trouble falling asleep last night, but when i did i was OUT. Though i do not remember my dreams, i recall them being very vivid. I'm making my breakfast as we speak and will be taking my first dose with it. Today is chest and abs. Will report back later.
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    Day 3 continued...

    Just got done lifting. Had absolutely NO energy while working out today. It was just "one of those days" i guess. I had a lot of energy earlier today, but when i got home it was gone. Today was chest and ab day. I went down 5lbs on almost every lift with dumbells compared to last week's workout. I rarely do barbell presses anymore for my chest (trying to even out my chest). I had a nice pump in my chest and abs though. I'm feeling leaner today as well.

    The past couple of days i've been feeling really thirsty. I usually drink about 1 1/2 to 2 gallons per day (normal day), but even though i have been getting in more then 2 gallons these past couple of days, i still feel dehydrated.

    I felt the sorness in my lower back today again. I guess the last couple of times were not an unrelated incident. After the first dose this morning, i felt the same tightness in my lower as the last couple of days.

    I'm so glad tomarrow is an off day. I really need the extra rest. I'm out.
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    Originally Posted by david4zero8
    Yeah i hope it's nothing too big. It's just weird to have it happen all of a sudden.

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    could you please keep us updated on the "HAIR" situation. this is very important to me. I picked a ph cycle for no hairloss so im not gonna lose my hair pct or using this as a stand alone.
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    Originally Posted by inprogress2
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    could you please keep us updated on the "HAIR" situation. this is very important to me. I picked a ph cycle for no hairloss so im not gonna lose my hair pct or using this as a stand alone.
    Will do. As of today, i'm still noticing like one of two strands of hair. It seems to have gotten a little better after i switched over to ActivaTE. But it is too early to tell. We'll see how it goes after the 4 weeks.
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    Day 4: 06/17/05

    Today is my off day.

    Yesturday was a little weird. After taking my final dose of ActivaTE for that day, around 10pm, i was feeling tired but i was not able to sleep.

    I just took my first dose of ActivaTE 15 minutes ago with my breakfast. The tingling sensation i have reported the past couple of days after taking ActivaTE, i'm feeling again right at this moment. I'm out.

    Oh yeah, my knees and shoulders have been a been a bit more sore lately.
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    Originally Posted by david4zero8
    Will do. As of today, i'm still noticing like one of two strands of hair. It seems to have gotten a little better after i switched over to ActivaTE. But it is too early to tell. We'll see how it goes after the 4 weeks.

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    Originally Posted by inprogress2
    everyone loses a certain amount of hair a day 1 or 2 no big deal
    Yeah that's true. But believe me, it was more then one or two the last couple of weeks on RXT. (Not trying to scare anyone; it's just the facts of what was/is happening to me.) Like i said though, everything is looking better since i switched over to ActivaTE. Only time will tell.
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    Day 4 continued...

    I took my second dose around 3pm. It's around 4:11pm my time right now. I'm notcing that my left knee is extremely sore. I have a tingling sensation down the middle of my back. My joints are unusually sore all over. Does ActivaTE suppress estrogen or something? ActivaTE is suppose to bind to the SHBG, therefore "creating" more free T correct? It almost feels like i'm on RXT all over again. (I'm referring to the sore joint feeling while taking a higher dose of RXT.)
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    Nah, ActivaTe won't supress estrogen. But a rise in test may be causing a lowering of cortisol somewhat, which may explain why you're feeling soreness.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe
    Nah, ActivaTe won't supress estrogen. But a rise in test may be causing a lowering of cortisol somewhat, which may explain why you're feeling soreness.
    That could be it. My joints are feeling extremely sore.

    Day 5: 06/18/05

    Just got done working out. Today was back and trap day. I took a dose of ActivaTE before my workout today. I had a lot of aggression doing my workout today. Bent over row went up by 10lbs. BUT, I'm feeling really worn out. (It might be time to take a week off from trainning soon. I'll probably take a week off after i finish the ActivaTE.)

    For some reason, i just cant seem to get 8hrs of sleep. While on ActivaTE, when i sleep i'm OUT. But if i wake up for some reason in the middle of the night, i cant seem to fall back asleep as easily. I'm feeling hungrier throughtout the day as well along.

    Tomarrow is shoulder and arms day. I'm out.
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    It's 12:40am right now. My right shoulder, where the trap meets the collar bone, is killing me. There's a sharp pain right at that point. As of right now tomarrow's shoulder and arm day is a no go. I've had a history of pulling my traps, so i'm going to play it safe this time. I think i will take a week off and see how it goes from there.

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    should i still continue the use of ActivaTE during my week off? Thanks.
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    Yes, still take it.

    I'd like to point out here, that increased aggression (from increase in test), sore joints (likely from lowering cortisol from increase in test) and insomnia (increase in test stimulating your CNS and preventing you from sleeping) are indicating to me that you are a very responsive user.

    Have you noticed any increase in acne?

    If the joint pain is really bad, may i suggest you drop your dose down to 10-15 caps for a few days to see if they get better?
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    Day 6: 06/19/05

    Originally Posted by Robboe
    Yes, still take it.

    I'd like to point out here, that increased aggression (from increase in test), sore joints (likely from lowering cortisol from increase in test) and insomnia (increase in test stimulating your CNS and preventing you from sleeping) are indicating to me that you are a very responsive user.

    Have you noticed any increase in acne?

    If the joint pain is really bad, may i suggest you drop your dose down to 10-15 caps for a few days to see if they get better?
    I didn't see that you replied to my thread. For some reason i didn't get an email about it today.

    Acutally i usually do respond rather well to most products. I have noticed an increase of acne on my face; also noticed a couple of zits around the scalp of my head.

    My left knee is still rather sore. My right shoulder and trap area still has pain so i did not go ahead with my workout as stated in the previous post. I will continue with my plans to take a week off from training.

    I'll drop the dosage down over the next couple of days and see what happens.
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    Day 7: 06/20/05

    Took my morning dose of ActivaTE this morning with my breakfast. I'm going to be cutting my daily dose to 15 caps ED for the next couple of days on the recommendations of Robboe.

    My shoulder/trap area is still bothering me. Other then that, nothing new to report.
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    Day 8: 06/21/05

    I only got 3hrs of sleep last night, which is not helping at all for the recovery of my shoulder area. I'm feeling a little irritable right now. I took my morning dose of ActiavTE this morning at 6:50am with my breafast and the normal assorment of fish oil caps and multi-vitamin.

    I did a reduced dose of 15 caps yesturday. Although my right trap/shoulder area i still bothering, the aching around my body is not as intense as when i was dosing at 20 caps ED. I will be continuing the 15 cap ED dose for the next couple of days.

    Robboe,
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    Day 9: 06/22/05

    Current weight is 209lbs.

    I took my first dose of RXT this morning with breafast with the usual assortment of pills. I got some decent sleep last night, about 7.5hrs. Even though i got almost 8hrs of sleep, i was dead tired in class today.

    Nothing new to report as far as acne or sorness goes. My left knee is still sore. My shoulder and trap area is feeling better so i'll be good to go next week and will be resuming my workouts at that time.

    Shedding has gotten a lot better now that i've stopped the RXT and am on ActivaTE. I just heard about the RXT recall yesturday, and am a wondering if that had anything to do with my shedding problem? The "underdosed" RXT worked really well for me, as far as strength and lean muscle gain goes, so i can't even imagine how well the "full-strength" version of RXT will workout.

    I usually feel really pumped after taking the dose of ActivaTE. I'm still on 5 pills 3 times per day and do not feel the really intense back "ache"/pump. When would be a good time to switch back to the regular ActivaTE does of 5 pills 4 times per day?
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    Originally Posted by Robboe
    Give it 3-5 days.
    Sounds good. Thanks.

    Day 10: 06/23/05

    Took my morning dose with breakfast around 7am, but ended up going back to bed because i wasnt feeling too well. Last night throughout the night i had stomach cramps, something that never happens to me. The only thing that changed last night was i had a protein shake, along with my last dose of ActivaTE, and my 1tbsp of EFA about an hour and a half before bed with no real meal. I usually eat something (real food) along with the above supplements as my last meal before bed.

    Since i've been taking ActivaTE, i've noticed i have become unusually constipated. I've been also feeling really depressed the last couple of days, from a reason unknown to me (nothing has changed in my life) while on the ActivaTE. I know depression is a symptom of low test, because i had depression and other symptoms associated with low test before my last cycle of RXT, (the RXT helped a lot, funny since it did not have an active ingredient) but out of no where it has come back. I just wanted to make a note of that.

    Other then that, i'm still on 15 pills per day and will be continuing with the lower dose for the following 3-5 days as recommended by Robboe.
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    Day 11: 06/24/05

    I've taken two doses today so far. I'm getting a little more acne on my face, on my chest, and around my neck. My entire body still looks fuller when looking in the mirror. Other then that, nothing new to report. I can't wait to get back in the gym next week. The time off from the gym has really helped me recover. I'm out.
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    Day 12: 06/25/05

    Took my first dose of ActivaTE at 12pm today with "breakfast." I got some really good sleep last night. The best sleep i had in a while actually. Woke up a couple of times in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, but was able to fall back asleep right away.

    Woke up feeling pretty pumped physically. My mind is clear; everthing is good. I'm noticing more acne around my shoulders and arms. I can't wait to get back into the gym.
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    Day 13: 06/26/05

    It's around 10:20pm and i just took my last dose of ActivaTE a couple of minutes ago. A weird thing just happened. While i was burping, this hot white puff of smoke came out of my mouth. NO JOKE. It didnt just happen once. It happened THREE times. The burp had a different taste this time as well. The taste was a lot stronger then usual.

    Robboe, has this ever happened to you?
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    Only with ALA caps LOL.

    I had a dry mouth and didn't wash it down with water. It got stuck in mouth and the cap must have disolved in my throat. I burped and poofed out a little cloud of smoke.
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