Adrenal Fatigue

[krazykarl]

Does anyone have experience with supplements that would help with this?



thanks.


-krazy

[BringnIt]

Tyrosine?

Also, Siberian ginseng, B-complex vitamins, and *possibly* licorice?

[pu12en12g]

NADH / Powertrain

[pushinweightwi]

Ginseng, adrenal caps by solaray, good multimineral, get off all stimulants, also rohdiola works very well.

[pu12en12g]

Inosine

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300g powder $10.25. Code 116.0

[krazykarl]

bump

[brassmonkey]

try some psychotropin or/and take ashwaganda with 8 oz. warm milk plus 1 tsp. honey before bed.

[Magnetic]

Does anyone have experience with supplements that would help with this?



thanks.


-krazy

The incidence of adrenal insufficiency is relatively low (5 cases/100,000 people). Are you suspecting this is the disorder or have you actually been diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency by an ACTH challenge test, as well as serum or urine determination of cortisone, aldosterone, and epinephrine? Have you lost weight, had recurring bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma, general respiratory distress, or more frequent allergic reactions? It can be easily misdiagnosed as Addison's disorder or Cushing's syndrome given similar physical symptoms, not to mention a whole host of other complications. Without a panel of urine or serum tests, adrenal fatigue is difficult to determine and unsafe to self-medicate. Standard therapy involves low-dose oral hydrocortisone administration. However, an alternative method follows, but read carefully and seek your doctor's approval prior to self-medicating, especially if you suffer from hypertension:

The only known readily available inhibitors of the enzyme that deactivates cortisol (11 beta-HSD) is glycyrrhizic acid (licorice root), 250-500mg, 3x per day. However, licorice root used regularly in large doses can produce high blood pressure, water retention, potassium wasting, and mild gynecomastia. Also, be prepared for up to 25% reduction in testosterone. (1)

Furthermore, nutrients key to adrenal function include vitamin C, B5, B6, zinc, and magnesium. These nutrients play a critical role in the manufacture of adrenal hormones.

Hope that helps.

(1) Armanini D, Bonanni G, Mattarello MJ, Fiore C, Sartorato P, Palermo M. Licorice consumption and serum testosterone in healthy man. Exp Clin Endocrinol Diabetes. 2003 Sep;111(6):341-3.

[krazykarl]

The incidence of adrenal insufficiency is relatively low (5 cases/100,000 people). Are you suspecting this is the disorder or have you actually been diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency by an ACTH challenge test, as well as serum or urine determination of cortisone, aldosterone, and epinephrine? Have you lost weight, had recurring bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma, general respiratory distress, or more frequent allergic reactions? It can be easily misdiagnosed as Addison's disorder or Cushing's syndrome given similar physical symptoms, not to mention a whole host of other complications. Without a panel of urine or serum tests, adrenal fatigue is difficult to determine and unsafe to self-medicate. Standard therapy involves low-dose oral hydrocortisone administration. However, an alternative method follows, but read carefully and seek your doctor's approval prior to self-medicating, especially if you suffer from hypertension:

The only known readily available inhibitors of the enzyme that deactivates cortisol (11 beta-HSD) is glycyrrhizic acid (licorice root), 250-500mg, 3x per day. However, licorice root used regularly in large doses can produce high blood pressure, water retention, potassium wasting, and mild gynecomastia. Also, be prepared for up to 25% reduction in testosterone. (1)

Furthermore, nutrients key to adrenal function include vitamin C, B5, B6, zinc, and magnesium. These nutrients play a critical role in the manufacture of adrenal hormones.

Hope that helps.

(1) Armanini D, Bonanni G, Mattarello MJ, Fiore C, Sartorato P, Palermo M. Licorice consumption and serum testosterone in healthy man. Exp Clin Endocrinol Diabetes. 2003 Sep;111(6):341-3.

Definately does. Besides the symptoms of fatigue, etc., recent bloodwork has shown everything normal except low dhea, which got me wondering about the adrenal system.

[Lok7y]

The only known readily available inhibitors of the enzyme that deactivates cortisol (11 beta-HSD) is glycyrrhizic acid (licorice root), 250-500mg, 3x per day.

7-oxo-DHEA (or 7-hydroxy) decreases 11-beta-HSD-1 reductase activity & promotes dehydrogenase activity.

[rmack27]

DHEA, and Pregnenolone. both hormones produced by the adrenals. try 50mg of each per day and see if it helps.

for vitamin support you should be taking plenty of vitamin C, B5, E, calcium and magnesium.

other things that may help are licorice root, ginseng, glutamine, l-tyrosine and melatonin if sleeping is a problem.

i would get a diagnoses before you start a hefty supplement routine though. good luck.

[altruistic]

A good multivitamin along with EFA's such as fish oils and flax. Extra antioxidant supplementation as well.
Most importantly, R-E-S-T!!!

[pu12en12g]

I picked up some Pregnenolone and am looking forward to doing a full review. The limited feedback seems positive so far.... with a name like "pregnenolone", I'm surprised it isn't banned.

Interesting RE: Adrenal Fatigue

What About Cycling And Adrenal Exhaustion?
You can read every single medical study on ECA and you won't find anything about cycling or adrenal exhaustion. Not a word. In a way, this situation is really rather funny and absurd. Although there is a ton of scientific research on ECA, bodybuilders and herbalists tend to put their own spin on the data, and most doctors are amazingly ignorant about anything that is not approved by the FDA. So, unless you read the medical research, it's almost impossible to separate the facts from the spin, hype, and political BS.

Lets start with cycling. Once upon a time, bodybuilders found some fascinating information about a drug called clenbuterol in animal science journals. They learned that high doses of clenbuterol can build muscle and, since it directly stimulates the beta 2 adrenergic receptors, it even increases thermogenesis. Cycling clenbuterol was found to be more effective for bulking up farm animals so, of course, bodybuilders started cycling clenbuterol.

What does this have to do with ECA? Not much, but since the drugs are similar in some respects, bodybuilders started cycling ECA. And, of course, a number of companies that try to maintain the appearance of being on the cutting edge also started to recommend that people "cycle" their thermogenic supplements. So, amazingly, obese people are being told to cycle ECA because of some studies with a different drug that bulked up farm animals. As you will see in "The Beta 3 Scandal" section of this post, techniques that are effective with clenbuterol are not such a good idea for obese people who use ECA.

Meanwhile, some herbalists came up with a theory that thermogenic supplements stress the adrenal glands. Why? Well, thermogenic supplements cause the adrenal glands to release adrenaline. Of course, the exact same thing happens in response to the normal stress of daily living, and when you exercise, and when you eat a meal, and when you go outside in cold weather, etc., etc., etc. The adrenal glands certainly don't sound like wimps to me, but why ruin a good theory with facts? Still, it's a shame they came up with such a horrible name that generates an image of the adrenal glands getting worked to death. Poor ephedrine -- it doesn't even get a fair shake from people who advocate its use.

But when it comes to not being able to get a fair shake, obese people win the prize. Unfortunately the "adrenal exhaustion" theory also perpetuates prejudice against obese people because it ignores the fact that, in addition to subnormal noradrenaline release by the nerve endings of the sympathetic nervous system, obese people also release insufficient adrenaline from the adrenal medulla: "Another abnormality being noted with increasing frequency in human obesity is reduced adrenaline (Ad) levels in plasma, both at rest or in response to a stimulus such as physical activity" (17). By the way, this adrenaline deficiency persists even if you lose weight (18, 19-NA), setting the stage for the inevitable regain.

Thus, although ECA causes the adrenal medulla to release more adrenaline, this is actually just bringing us up to a more normal level. Although some herb sellers talk about "stressing" the adrenals, the reality is that ECA merely normalizes this biochemical imbalance. At any rate, undaunted by the fact that obesity researchers have never found a single incidence of "adrenal exhaustion" in all their studies on ECA, the herbalists started selling a variety of herbs to "protect" your adrenals. By the way, the herbalists agree with the bodybuilders that you should cycle ECA. However, their "reasoning" is quite different -- the herbalists believe that you should cycle thermogenic supplements in order to "rest" your adrenals. Ugh!

[American Hunk]

you are a ****ing moron if you don't cycle stimulants legal or not. It's just common sense. You are stressing your body(adrenals) beyond the norm with stimulants or even excessive stress from overtraining, overwork, bad relationship,lack of sleep etc.

Long term use of stimulants w/o cycling will eventually cause your body to "crash" from the excessive stress put on your body so that it can get you back to homeostasis before you kill yourself. believe that!

[mariiia1]

Nutraharmony's Adrenal Support has become my go-to for sustaining energy and recovery in my bodybuilding journey. This supplement perfectly complements the demands of intense workouts, ensuring I stay at the top

[zakandrews398]

Drinking water or other low-calorie beverages can reduce food intake and boost fat burning.