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    IFBB section lacks IFBB pros!

    Compared to other boards, there are not many pros who post regularly here . This is quite a concern because when you ask for an opinion, you have a dozen people screaming 'it's genetics' and another part screaming 'HGH/Gear/cell-tech'.
    Other forums(animalpak.com , getbig.com) have more pros giving solid and realistic advice.
    BB.com tried to bring dexter, stan mcquay and it's been light years since they've posted here.
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    i respect Bob and Serge for taking the time to come on and reply to messages etc. (no reg beg)
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    Originally Posted by samkd View Post
    i respect Bob and Serge for taking the time to come on and reply to messages etc. (no reg beg)
    Your just a reg begger! lol

    Seriously tho - there aren't enough no.

    Especially when bb.com is meant to be the 'best' bbing forum/site in the intarweb
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    Originally Posted by antish View Post
    This is quite a concern because when you ask for an opinion, you have a dozen people screaming 'it's genetics' and another part screaming 'HGH/Gear/cell-tech'
    and you wonder why the pros don't post here?
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    i look at this section more of a discussion of IFBB contests and such, rather than a place to get advice from the pro's.
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    ok so what other boards do have pros? getbig? ya, those guys are all sweethearts
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    i bet alot of pros read these forums ans say 'fuk that....why should i post with these kids'
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    Originally Posted by bxbombers View Post
    ok so what other boards do have pros? getbig? ya, those guys are all sweethearts
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    If I were a pro, I'm certain that I wouldn't be using all my time to post on every bodybuilding board. We're actually quite lucky when any of the top pros in the world stop by even briefly.

    However, bb.com, should pay some of them (maybe 2nd tier) to post on a weekly basis. That would generate a lot of interest here.

    FYI John Hansen, Natural Mr. Olympia, is very active here, and can provide great advice. He built a professional physique without all of the *extras*.
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    Originally Posted by hybridx View Post

    However, bb.com, should pay some of them (maybe 2nd tier) to post on a weekly basis. That would generate a lot of interest here.
    x2 Some kind of moderated question/answer thing would be awesome. e.g. one thread to propose questions and then the moderator selects the interesting ones and the pro answers them then a second (sticky) thread with the answers.
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    Originally Posted by bxbombers View Post
    ok so what other boards do have pros? getbig? ya, those guys are all sweethearts
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    Originally Posted by j_neatherlin View Post
    i look at this section more of a discussion of IFBB contests and such, rather than a place to get advice from the pro's.
    That's probably the best way to look at it.

    Plus, most training questions don't require expert advice, e.g. you don't need a pro to tell you that squats are good for legs.
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    Originally Posted by hybridx View Post
    If I were a pro, I'm certain that I wouldn't be using all my time to post on every bodybuilding board. We're actually quite lucky when any of the top pros in the world stop by even briefly.

    However, bb.com, should pay some of them (maybe 2nd tier) to post on a weekly basis. That would generate a lot of interest here.

    FYI John Hansen, Natural Mr. Olympia, is very active here, and can provide great advice. He built a professional physique without all of the *extras*.
    I agree with the pay thing... maybe not even pay. Like I said in another thread there are very close ties with Muscletech here so, hell... even Sabastian Zona from the MT stable postign here would be nice. Serge, Bob and Natural O are great and all but it would be nice to have a few more active names.
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    Originally Posted by samkd View Post
    i respect Bob and Serge for taking the time to come on and reply to messages etc. (no reg beg)
    Bob has to with being a bb.com spokesman. Serge should definately get the bb.com contribution award next year.

    Originally Posted by bxbombers View Post
    ok so what other boards do have pros? getbig? ya, those guys are all sweethearts
    The pros all respond on getbig. Maybe they are afraid of the rep system on bb.com. They don't want to be negged by trolls and jealous types and have it affect them mentally for the Olympia stage. J/K
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    Originally Posted by golds2006 View Post
    i bet alot of pros read these forums ans say 'fuk that....why should i post with these kids'
    I think bb.com has the largest internet daycare service on the web. Hence so many moderators closing hundreds of threads daily in the MISC section.

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    What happened to Tom Prince?
    He just started a thread the other day. 220lbTP screen name. He was contributing in his own thread when Bob organized the pro discussion boards. But unfortunately when he was stating the keys to becoming a successful pro, Steroid talk like everywhere else in this section became the only discussion point and became a e-fight and slugfest.
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    As stated before. THere are way too many kids and trolls here for any type of extended serious discussion. Hell look at the way this website is structured. Most of the bandwidth goes to the misc section where a bunch of nonlifting dumbasses clog up most of the servers. BB.com management knows this but they WANT to have a bunch of clueless teens/noobs here because THOSE are the guys who buy a ****load of supps(that don't work of course).

    So we will continue to have this lackluster online culture which any decent pro wouldn't be caught dead posting in as a result.
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    BB.com management knows this but they WANT to have a bunch of clueless teens/noobs here because THOSE are the guys who buy a ****load of supps(that don't work of course).

    Your right. I have always wondered why so many of the top 10 products are not replaced with cheaper supps that do the same job. If it has Ronnies face on it it makes the top 10. Nitrix, cellmass, no explode, syntha 6.

    But even the clueless teens/noobs no to not buy alot of muscletech based on the ads. Who is MT greatest customer than? I always thought it was the 20 and under crowd convinced they can look like Jay by next summer.
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    Your right. I have always wondered why so many of the top 10 products are not replaced with cheaper supps that do the same job. If it has Ronnies face on it it makes the top 10. Nitrix, cellmass, no explode, syntha 6.

    But even the clueless teens/noobs no to not buy alot of muscletech based on the ads. Who is MT greatest customer than? I always thought it was the 20 and under crowd convinced they can look like Jay by next summer.
    Yep. It's a great approach for keeping online sales high, not so great for serious discussions. The sooner people who have been here for a while come to understand this, the better.
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    As stated before. THere are way too many kids and trolls here for any type of extended serious discussion. Hell look at the way this website is structured. Most of the bandwidth goes to the misc section where a bunch of nonlifting dumbasses clog up most of the servers. BB.com management knows this but they WANT to have a bunch of clueless teens/noobs here because THOSE are the guys who buy a ****load of supps(that don't work of course).

    So we will continue to have this lackluster online culture which any decent pro wouldn't be caught dead posting in as a result.
    A GD Loud As All Hell X2...

    I could not have said it better myself. While I?ll admit that I do post in the MISC on occasion, I do so for a break in the monotony of "Ronnie's gonna win", "Jay's gonna win", "Ronnie's got no lat/tri", 'Renne Toney is a man", and "How big are so & so's (insert bodypart here)" threads. At the same time, I also post in the Exercise, Injury, Contest Prep, and what has become the "Scivation Team" forum. The majority of my posts are made in forums directly related to the purpose of the web site: bodybuilding!

    It is a sad state of affairs when the majority of activity that occurs on a bodybuilding site, happens in the MISC section where discussion is as far from bodybuilding as one can get. There are a number of guys who post here that contribute tremendously to the focus of this section; unfortunately, absent from that group are any significant number of IFBB pro's.

    There is nothing that we can do to eliminate the trolling or repetitive questions that seem to dissuade the IFBB pro's from staying here for any appreciable amount of time. This is the nature of the beast. Banning and removing trolls is a good practice in any forum, but mod policing of trolls or inappropriate threads becomes an exhausting endeavor. In any case, what we can do is to simply push for removal of "sticky" threads that no longer are relevant and hope that when IFBB pro's, much like everyone else, post here, they can be treated with respect...a respect that we expect of, and for ourselves.
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    haha there's a reason for all that... They've been here before.. but too many people will be quick to call out "oh, the only reason you look like that is juice" blah blah blah... It's enough to make any hard working mature pro who wants to help leave pretty quick...

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    Pro imput is severely overrated. It's not like they can be 100% honest when answering many questions anyway. All they can really do is provide a little insight into their day to day lives and feed everyone the same generic bbing advice we've all heard a million times before.
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    Pro imput is severely overrated. It's not like they can be 100% honest when answering many questions anyway. All they can really do is provide a little insight into their day to day lives and feed everyone the same generic bbing advice we've all heard a million times before.
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    Originally Posted by DJINN View Post
    A GD Loud As All Hell X2...

    I could not have said it better myself. While I?ll admit that I do post in the MISC on occasion, I do so for a break in the monotony of ?Ronnie?s gonna win?, ?Jay?s gonna win?, ?Ronnie?s got no lat/tri?, ?Renne Toney is a man?, and ?How big are so & so?s (insert bodypart here)? threads. At the same time, I also post in the Exercise, Injury, Contest Prep, and what has become the ?Scivation Team? forum. The majority of my posts are made in forums directly related to the purpose of the web site: bodybuilding!

    It is a sad state of affairs when the majority of activity that occurs on a bodybuilding site, happens in the MISC section where discussion is as far from bodybuilding as one can get. There are a number of guys who post here that contribute tremendously to the focus of this section?unfortunately, absent from that group are any significant number of IFBB pro?s.

    There is nothing that we can do to eliminate the trolling or repetitive questions that seem to dissuade the IFBB pro?s from staying here for any appreciable amount of time. This is the nature of the beast. Banning and removing trolls is a good practice in any forum, but mod policing of trolls or inappropriate threads becomes an exhausting endeavor. In any case, what we can do is to simply push for removal of ?sticky? threads that no longer are relevant and hope that when IFBB pro?s, much like everyone else, post here, they can be treated with respect?a respect that we expect of, and for ourselves.
    Yeah, make me a X3 really. Well minus the MT bashes =P

    If we were to get more Pros I say we need more mods. We have liek 10 whereas the Misc has about 20. Of our 10 mods I recognize 1, Pro Bob Chic as a somewhat regular poster. I think we have enough folks who DO post enough in this section that DO have a good grasp of hwo this section SHOULD flow to have a few more mod types JUST FOR THIS SECTION.

    I mean, as has been discussed, it will be easy to get Pros here but making them stay with the retarded comments will be the hard part.
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    Originally Posted by j_neatherlin View Post
    i look at this section more of a discussion of IFBB contests and such, rather than a place to get advice from the pro's.
    same here. Either way i still think more pros should be on.
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    Originally Posted by the BAT View Post
    Pro imput is severely overrated. It's not like they can be 100% honest when answering many questions anyway. All they can really do is provide a little insight into their day to day lives and feed everyone the same generic bbing advice we've all heard a million times before.
    Excellent post. People act like they are going to hear some new muscle building secrets from a 270lb ifbb pro. When it is going to be the same ol' **** they've already heard before. And they can't be honest about the real **** via legal problems. That's the reason why you see so many bull**** ads with pros on the front saying how they owe blah, blah gains to (insert here) product. Outside of noobs and teens I don't understand the fascination with speaking to a pro. Especially if you aren't using.
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    It lacks pros because of the number of douche bags down here. I could kindly ask three IFBB pros to start posting down here and they probably would. However, I don't want to subject them to the ignorant commments that are tolerated.
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    The forum would benefit if Arnold would come here and post, maybe Serge Nubret could send him an e mail and invite him here.?

    I am sure Arnold has some time in his lunch break to check the forum, or maybe he could permanently install a dedicated forum PC in his office.

    Anyone got his e mail address, I will send him an invite.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    It lacks pros because of the number of douche bags down here. I could kindly ask three IFBB pros to start posting down here and they probably would. However, I don't want to subject them to the ignorant commments that are tolerated.
    That about sums it up. Some people just want the pros on here so they can bitch at them as a means of indirectly bitching about their crap physique.
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    Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy View Post
    Who needs IFBB pros when you have ME????




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