X-factor and Aplodan.

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Would this make a good stack?

[Catch39]

X-factor is amazing, I know Alpodan is pricey (of course) but people also had good results from it. I think its a good stack

[2ThaRow]

lol Muscletech

I would say go with X-factor and Activate Xtreme

[Catch39]

lol Muscletech

I would say go with X-factor and Activate Xtreme

He's 16...taking Activate Xtreme at that age will not do anything for him besides waste his money.

OP, you could also try x-factor+SizeOn because I hear nothing but great things about SizeOn and it is a really good formula.

[cal62887]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...factor+aplodan

read post five but disregard the Activate part bec. your 16....infact disregard it all, don't take either one, and swing by the nutrition section. At the top of the nutrition section there are some good links to bulking diets.

[2ThaRow]

He's 16...taking Activate Xtreme at that age will not do anything for him besides waste his money.

OP, you could also try x-factor+SizeOn because I hear nothing but great things about SizeOn and it is a really good formula.

Activate Frees up testosterone, it isn't a test booster. It allows for more free testosterone rather than Sex binded testosterone.

[cal62887]

Activate Frees up testosterone, it isn't a test booster. It allows for more free testosterone rather than Sex binded testosterone.

I'd be hesitant to tell this kid to take creatine let a alone a free-T booster. Not due to ill effects but bec. he simple doesnt need it. At 16 you should take advantage of your natural body growth, learn to build muscle without supplements, and later on down the road you can pick up the supps. to help you get over plateaus. Think about the Law of Diminishing Returns...

[Catch39]

I'd be hesitant to tell this kid to take creatine let a alone a free-T booster. Not due to ill effects but bec. he simple doesnt need it. At 16 you should take advantage of your natural body growth, learn to build muscle without supplements, and later on down the road you can pick up the supps. to help you get over plateaus. Think about the Law of Diminishing Returns...

Yep he's right ^...it's also kind of bad to get into too many supplements at a young age, because your mindset will be that you NEED supplements to grow, which isn't the case.

[2ThaRow]

I'd be hesitant to tell this kid to take creatine let a alone a free-T booster. Not due to ill effects but bec. he simple doesnt need it. At 16 you should take advantage of your natural body growth, learn to build muscle without supplements, and later on down the road you can pick up the supps. to help you get over plateaus. Think about the Law of Diminishing Returns...

I doubt this kid is going natural if he is looking into muscletech products.

And what "ill side effects" are you talking about?

Activate Xtreme has no known side effects besides maybe increase in acne.

You can have all the testosterone in the world, but if it is binded to Sex hormones or not free that its just a waste.

Only 2% of your bodys testosterone is free no matter how old you are.

Plus Activate Xtreme uses natural pharmaceutical plants, so its not like were handing this kid hormone enhancers.


I agree with what you say, but few kids his age will listen to us so I say rather than give him the old "pep talk" we just give him what works and is safe at his age.

[SurfOnSilver]

lol Muscletech

I would say go with X-factor and Activate Xtreme

Aplodan gets consistently good reviews, you shouldnt bash a product or suggest others simply on the basis of who made it, but on the merits of the product itself.

Muscletech are very pricey, and indeed its hard for them to justify many of their prices for simply things such as protein powders/weight gainers etc, HOWEVER, everyone knows that certain companies do certain things well (ON = 100% Whey) and from what I've read, Leukic and Aplodan are some of the most solid products you can get, however pricey.

[2ThaRow]

Aplodan gets consistently good reviews, you shouldnt bash a product or suggest others simply on the basis of who made it, but on the merits of the product itself.

Muscletech are very pricey, and indeed its hard for them to justify many of their prices for simply things such as protein powders/weight gainers etc, HOWEVER, everyone knows that certain companies do certain things well (ON = 100% Whey) and from what I've read, Leukic and Aplodan are some of the most solid products you can get, however pricey.

I refuse to treat a company like Muscle tech in high standards when they make each supplement sound like it will make you into Arnold.

Muscle tech is a joke in terms of advertising and they are bound to make 1-2 good products when they fail at making at 6-10.

It's called the laws of Probability

[cal62887]

I doubt this kid is going natural if he is looking into muscletech products.

And what "ill side effects" are you talking about?

Activate Xtreme has no known side effects besides maybe increase in acne.

You can have all the testosterone in the world, but if it is binded to Sex hormones or not free that its just a waste.

Only 2% of your bodys testosterone is free no matter how old you are.

Plus Activate Xtreme uses natural pharmaceutical plants, so its not like were handing this kid hormone enhancers.


I agree with what you say, but few kids his age will listen to us so I say rather than give him the old "pep talk" we just give him what works and is safe at his age.

1. I never said that there were ill side effects, in fact i said "not because of ill side effects"

2. Just bec. he's looking into MT products doesnt mean he's not going "natural". All MT products will still keep you natural and just bec. he's looking into Mt products doesnt mean he's about to pick kup AAS anytime soon.

3. A lot of kids DO listen to us and i even helped him out by giving him a post that said that the ALA in aplodan will not work well with Xfactor.

4. The bottom line is that he doesnt need them, and he can use them later when he would most benefit from them....

[cal62887]

MT products are good products...they're just overpriced and over marketed. If i had the money i'd be taking Aplodan, Leukic, and Anator .... And it goes to show that their marketing works, kinda like blaming McDonalds for selling kids toys to attract kids to unhealthy food: whatever works, it's a business.

[2ThaRow]

MT products are good products...they're just overpriced and over marketed. If i had the money i'd be taking Aplodan, Leukic, and Anator .... And it goes to show that their marketing works, kinda like blaming McDonalds for selling kids toys to attract kids to unhealthy food: whatever works, it's a business.

True, but MuscleTech is the reason why so many supplement companies have bad reps because people look at MuscleTech and think "Wow all supplement companies must be like this".

And I don't even get why some of MuscleTech's products are so overpriced. Like it makes no sense.

[cal62887]

True, but MuscleTech is the reason why so many supplement companies have bad reps because people look at MuscleTech and think "Wow all supplement companies must be like this".

And I don't even get why some of MuscleTech's products are so overpriced. Like it makes no sense.

Not really, Supplement companies have bad reps bec. of the "legal steroids" and shady companies, NOT bec. of companies like MT who are everywhere and have clinically tested products.

[2ThaRow]

Not really, Supplement companies have bad reps bec. of the "legal steroids" and shady companies, NOT bec. of companies like MT who are everywhere and have clinically tested products.

You would be surprised how many teens are retarded when it comes to supplements in my school.

They consider Luekic a freaking steroid and consider NO-Explode a supplement that will make you "huge"

The word Muscletech is synonymous with steroids in our school. It is not even funny how stupid teens are at my school.

It's funny really.

But I agree with you somewhat, its just I naturally hate Muscletech because everyone at my school treats the company like a God.

[cal62887]

A lot of teens act that way, i agree, but all that means is that MT knows how to market. MT is not, however, the root of all evils. Look up product lines like Fizogen, and IDS and you'll see why supplement companies have a bad reputation.

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I refuse to treat a company like Muscle tech in high standards when they make each supplement sound like it will make you into Arnold.

Muscle tech is a joke in terms of advertising and they are bound to make 1-2 good products when they fail at making at 6-10.

It's called the laws of Probability

Your kidding right. Muscletech is one of the most solid companys in business today and although they are overhyped I can trust the products to work. Iv'e only tried 3 but I like all 3 that I tried. I tried nitro-tech hardcore, Gakic, and naNO Vapor.