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    Which is the best Powerlifting organization?

    Which ones do you lift in and which ones are the best in you opinion?
    Does anyone know how many different ones there is?
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    Are you talking worldwide, or US only?

    I like NASA, and I'll be lifting in my first meet at the end of May.
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    Originally Posted by NewBlackDak
    Are you talking worldwide, or US only?

    I like NASA, and I'll be lifting in my first meet at the end of May.
    Drug-free athletes, and single-ply equipment. Everybody is like family.
    U.S. & Drug Free.I would like to find out how many different ones there are.
    Alright NewBlackDak!Im doing NASA in a week. There is also USAPL.
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    Which ones do you lift in and which ones are the best in you opinion?
    Does anyone know how many different ones there is?
    IMO, there is no best federation. I lift in the WABDL because the put on a lot of meets where I am from and they have the largest World Comp every year. It is more of a personal pref. on which one you would think is the best.
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    im going to compete in june. but im not a member of the us plifting fed. yet. how long does it take to register? and what all do i need to do to compete? like what do i have to sign up for wise?
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    Originally Posted by DBjohn24
    im going to compete in june. but im not a member of the us plifting fed. yet. how long does it take to register? and what all do i need to do to compete? like what do i have to sign up for wise?
    You can look on the federations web site and print off the application or you can buy a member card at weigh-ins. Make sure that you get your entry form in before the deadline. You dont need anything to compete if you want to compete raw.
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    powerlifter70 have you ever been drug tested at WABDL?If so how many times?
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    powerlifter70 have you ever been drug tested at WABDL?If so how many times?
    I never have been tested. Gus(President of the WABDL) usually tests the top lifters of each meet. It comes out to about 10% of the lifters there. Every meet I have been to, Gus tested lifters. If you set a world record you can pretty much bet that you will be tested.
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    here is a link to most pl federations:

    http://www.weighttrainersunited.com/fedreference.html
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    First meet i did a month ago i got tested and it came back Clean!That was for USAPL.Didnt break a record or nothing but got tested.Some guys say you can juice and just stop with enough time before comp to pass test?U ever hear anything like that?
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    First meet i did a month ago i got tested and it came back Clean!That was for USAPL.Didnt break a record or nothing but got tested.Some guys say you can juice and just stop with enough time before comp to pass test?U ever hear anything like that?
    That all depends on what type of gear you are on. Deca can stay in your system for up to a year and a half. Dbol and A50 is usually out of your system in 3 to 4 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by powerlifter70
    here is a link to most pl federations:

    http://www.weighttrainersunited.com/fedreference.html
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    Thanks for the LInk!
    no poroblem...here to help
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    Does it bother u at all that some may use Illegal stuff to Win?The reason i ask is cause i talk to a guy at our gym that use to do PL meets a long time ago and knew some of these guys that Now have records in the USAPL and He tells me that he knows that they Juiced and they are telling everyone that they have been drug free there whole life...Hopefully i will still get a record anyways being drug free LIfeTime!Been very tempted to try some to help my strength but never have and decided i will just Never use Illegal juice.Whats ur Opinion?
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    Does it bother u at all that some may use Illegal stuff to Win?The reason i ask is cause i talk to a guy at our gym that use to do PL meets a long time ago and knew some of these guys that Now have records in the USAPL and He tells me that he knows that they Juiced and they are telling everyone that they have been drug free there whole life...Hopefully i will still get a record anyways being drug free LIfeTime!Been very tempted to try some to help my strength but never have and decided i will just Never use Illegal juice.Whats ur Opinion?

    It does not matter to me if anybody else uses gear. To me, pl is about me and the weight. I dont really care where I place in a meet. As long as I improve my lifts each and everytime I am happy. For the gear issue, I know a lot of people who use gear. They all have their reasons and that is a personal choice.
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    Originally Posted by powerlifter70
    It does not matter to me if anybody else uses gear. To me, pl is about me and the weight. I dont really care where I place in a meet. As long as I improve my lifts each and everytime I am happy. For the gear issue, I know a lot of people who use gear. They all have their reasons and that is a personal choice.
    I agree with you totally about U and the weight ur pushing but this is what i mean.......Say someone breaks a record and they used gear a month B 4 & the other person they may have beat didnt use gear doesnt the other person that used gear obviously have a huge edge????That is what im talking about..I have nothing against a person who juices (i got plenty of friends that juice) but I dont think they should be in a PL meet that is for Drug Free Lifters...Im not flaming juicers at all!
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    I agree with you totally about U and the weight ur pushing but this is what i mean.......Say someone breaks a record and they used gear a month B 4 & the other person they may have beat didnt use gear doesnt the other person that used gear obviously have a huge edge????That is what im talking about..I have nothing against a person who juices (i got plenty of friends that juice) but I dont think they should be in a PL meet that is for Drug Free Lifters...Im not flaming juicers at all!

    It does not really matter to me one way or the other. If you use gear and break records then so be it. I have been outlifted by lifters that "looked"
    like they were on gear. Did not bother me one bit. I am in it for me, not the record books. If I set a record then good for me, but my goal is to lift heavier and set pr's everytime.
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    I lift mostly in APA because they put on good meets that are near me. I've also lifted in APF and would do another APF meet if there was one within 2-3 hrs of where I live. I haven't been too impressed with what some of the other feds that put on meets near me have to offer so I haven't tried them. APA has both tested and non tested divisions but I just compete in the non tested, it makes no difference to me what anyone else is doing. I'm clean and to me, like some of the others have posted, it's not so much about winning as it is about me vs the weights.
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    I agree with you totally about U and the weight ur pushing but this is what i mean.......Say someone breaks a record and they used gear a month B 4 & the other person they may have beat didnt use gear doesnt the other person that used gear obviously have a huge edge????That is what im talking about..I have nothing against a person who juices (i got plenty of friends that juice) but I dont think they should be in a PL meet that is for Drug Free Lifters...Im not flaming juicers at all!
    I compete in WABDL, APF, and IPA. I like all the Feds for diffrent reasons. I will come back to this. To answer your question, it is normally hard for them to do this, juice then stop one month before. The sudden drop in test levels leaves them in a weaker state and if they use post cycle drugs to raise their test levels back up they can normally be tested. This is just the physical side, I think worse is the mental side. They are cruising along pushing some big weight with the higher levels then all of a sudden the test is cut and their goes some of the strength, this can really mentally screw with people. Just my .02.

    Back to the feds. I have competed in a WABDL meet and set a state record for my class and was not tested, but their where many other stronger lifters that competed that day. As far as IPA, I like them because you have the choice to go Pro (non-tested) or Amatuer (Tested), I see this as evening out the playing field pretty nicely. Finally I love competing in the APF just because their meets seem to always be pretty intense and I like the judging that takes place. All feds have their place and if a USAPL meet ever comes close enough to me, I would enjoy stepping on their platform.

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    I have competed in unsanctioned, APA, WABDL, APF, GPC and ill be honest not one is better than the other. It depends on the meet director as to whether the meet is good, the organization really has little to do with it IMO.
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    First meet i did a month ago i got tested and it came back Clean!That was for USAPL.Didnt break a record or nothing but got tested.Some guys say you can juice and just stop with enough time before comp to pass test?U ever hear anything like that?
    yuou'd be surprised at what people can do... apparently at IPF worlds you can find garbage cans with a couple syringes scattered around
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    yuou'd be surprised at what people can do... apparently at IPF worlds you can find garbage cans with a couple syringes scattered around

    Man Really??Crazy!Why not just enter a meet that doesnt test?In my opinion that is straight up Cheating!Im there to Win....I dont want second place...I want first and i want to break a record!!!If i was just doing it for me all the time i would just Max at the Gym!Why spend money entering a contest not to win??But like i said that is my opinion!I respect eveyones reason.....that is what makes the world go around!!But why cheat yourself by signing something that says your Drug free and mess with the ones who actually are drug free???!!!!Oh well....thats their choice!
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    Originally Posted by AJ Roberts
    I have competed in unsanctioned, APA, WABDL, APF, GPC and ill be honest not one is better than the other. It depends on the meet director as to whether the meet is good, the organization really has little to do with it IMO.
    Yes u r probably right!I just did my first one and man it seemed like i was holding that weight up there forever before the command to go down!On my try for 570lbs i held it for 5 seconds before the command!No joke!I dont know much about PL meets but that seems long but maybe not.
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    Originally Posted by MrSkullCrusher
    Yes u r probably right!I just did my first one and man it seemed like i was holding that weight up there forever before the command to go down!On my try for 570lbs i held it for 5 seconds before the command!No joke!I dont know much about PL meets but that seems long but maybe not.
    What fed was that? What lift- squats? Perhaps you were not set completely- for squats you need to have your knees locked prior to the start command.
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    Originally Posted by Danimal
    What fed was that? What lift- squats? Perhaps you were not set completely- for squats you need to have your knees locked prior to the start command.
    I just do Bench press my knees are shot!LOL!USAPL was the fed!
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    Originally Posted by Deciever
    yuou'd be surprised at what people can do... apparently at IPF worlds you can find garbage cans with a couple syringes scattered around

    again rumors. not true.

    back to topic-

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    Just a question...anyone lift in Gpc...which is the former Wpc??
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    Originally Posted by powerlifter70
    IMO, there is no best federation. I lift in the WABDL because the put on a lot of meets where I am from and they have the largest World Comp every year. It is more of a personal pref. on which one you would think is the best.
    I agree with this. If you only have one org. near you, and want to compete...

    I lift in the CPU/IPF, as there are not a whole lot of other feds within my desired travel zone.

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    I have lifted in nearly every fed, I enjoy most of them. I like WABDL, APA and APF at this present time. IPF is a huge fed, and the story on the syringes in the trash can was repoted as TRUE in Powerlifting USA, and they even printed a picture of the syringes in the trash can at the meet site, not to trash the IPF, but it did indeed happen, according to the reports. All feds have good and bad points.

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