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    White Flood

    I just got my two tubs of White Flood, been on it for a week, and i really like it. I was goin to the gym this morning at 5:15 and i was tired and all of a sudden i started air drumming, got my pump and have been having great workouts, i like the pumps so far.
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    Cool NaNO Vapor

    Ive tried so many pre-wrokout Nitric supplements. Id have to say that NO-Explode put them all on the map. I got by for 2 years cycling on and off that stuff. I have tried a few others including Super Charge by Labrada but what has really been fueling my anabolic workouts has been NaNO Vapor by Muscletech. Anything Muscletech makes is top-notch and I could go on and on about all the ingredients in it but just look for yourself! The stuff is packed full of fuel and will get you jacked!
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    Originally Posted by elhammer View Post
    Ive tried so many pre-wrokout Nitric supplements. Id have to say that NO-Explode put them all on the map. I got by for 2 years cycling on and off that stuff. I have tried a few others including Super Charge by Labrada but what has really been fueling my anabolic workouts has been NaNO Vapor by Muscletech. Anything Muscletech makes is top-notch and I could go on and on about all the ingredients in it but just look for yourself! The stuff is packed full of fuel and will get you jacked!
    More isnt always better there buddy.
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    Originally Posted by elhammer View Post
    but what has really been fueling my anabolic workouts has been NaNO Vapor by Muscletech. Anything Muscletech makes is top-notch and I could go on and on about all the ingredients in it but just look for yourself! The stuff is packed full of fuel and will get you jacked!
    The list of ingredients in Nan Vapor is insanely loooong.
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    What do you think of stacking HGH and IGF-2?

    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Out of the current products actually available @ bb.com:

    MAN Bodyoctane
    Diesel Nutrition - NOS Ether (brand new)
    NOW Arginine / Ornithine stack
    NOW AAKG 3500
    Cold Fusion
    Universal Animal - Storm (brand new)
    I've used (in order of effectiveness, best to worst):

    Diesel Nutrition Extreme NOS Precursor
    Legal Gear Cold Fusion
    Diesel Nutrition NOS XXX
    Di-Arginine Malate
    Arginine Pyroglutamate
    Citrulline Malate Powder
    AAKG Pills
    Stamino2
    L-Arginine powder
    L-Citrulline
    Male Fuel
    Horny Goat Weed
    For those of us on a "budget", I recommend the following stack all to be taken pre-workout, cycled, with plenty of water, and when bulking only:

    Arginine (or AAKG / Diarginine malate.. etc)
    Ornithine (or Ornithine HCL)
    1g Vitamin C
    Glycerine (dosage based on bodyweight)
    Carbs
    Creatine / CEE

    Optional:
    Carnosine (cheap)
    Taurine (cheap / effective)
    TMG / Betaine (cheap)
    Ribose
    ALA
    NAC
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    naNOx9 by Muscletech by far!

    Have used Nitrix and NO2 Black and had the best resuls by far with naNOx9.

    Did have a reaction with the 4 pill dosage (like a burning sensation throughout my body) but lowered the dose back to 3 pills and when i take it before i workout, i have experienced the best pumps ever.
    Great product. Thus far, i believe the best.
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    Overkill?

    I recently picked up NanoVapor and taken 3 of the nanox9 preworkout in the am. I HAVE experienced great pumps and feel MUCH fuller.
    Perhaps I should just take the NanoVapor preworkout.
    Any thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by kinglouis2005 View Post
    Overkill?

    I recently picked up NanoVapor and taken 3 of the nanox9 preworkout in the am. I HAVE experienced great pumps and feel MUCH fuller.
    Perhaps I should just take the NanoVapor preworkout.
    Any thoughts?
    Yeah, 20 minutes prior to work time and you'll be blasting them weights up...
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    Originally Posted by tylerdurden06 View Post
    Yeah, 20 minutes prior to work time and you'll be blasting them weights up...
    I noticed that yesterday(my 1st day) I dont know if it was placebo but it definately "motivated" me to go heavier. considering I get up at 4:45 am to hit the gym any "edge" I can get is worthwhile. I certainly feel this is an improvement over how i have been feeling/doing recently.
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    i just got some Xyience NOX-CG3 last friday, this will be my 5th day using it. I like it a lot, i've tried no explode. i feel its better. i just saw MuscleTech NaNO Vapor on bodybuilding.com and its packed with ingredients that get you going, and the NOX-CG3 has no caffine or anything like that, they took everything out. It's just creatine and glutamine.

    in your opinion, which is better. muscle tech or the xyience?
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    i've gone through a bottle of L-arginine straight, helped with working out, and recovery, pumps felt really good, what else is good to take with just the straight Arginine to help it absorb better in the system ?? I'm going to check out some No-Xplode, had a buddy taking it but its giving him some problems so i'm just going to use the rest of his (about 3/4 bottle)
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    Im considering using SuperPump 250 as my first ever workout stimulate. Right now I just take creatine.

    Ive read up on it and Im under the impression that it is superior to NO-explode in most peoples opinions.

    It is rather expensive though isnt it ? like 45+ bucks on bodybuilding.com.

    Is there a reliable source that has it cheaper ?

    I found a few sites that had it for 30 bucks, but Im not sure if they are reliable.

    Thoughts ?
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    Originally Posted by Bravodor View Post
    Im considering using SuperPump 250 as my first ever workout stimulate. Right now I just take creatine.

    Ive read up on it and Im under the impression that it is superior to NO-explode in most peoples opinions.

    It is rather expensive though isnt it ? like 45+ bucks on bodybuilding.com.

    Is there a reliable source that has it cheaper ?

    I found a few sites that had it for 30 bucks, but Im not sure if they are reliable.

    Thoughts ?
    Email or call bb.com and ask if they will price match the other site that you found it cheaper on. Just make sure to have the site name/address handy and the exact price beforehand. I'm not 100% certain but I believe they do price match. Can't hurt. NO-Xplode and SuperPump250 are both good. You'll probably want to use Cellmass if using Xplode and SizeOn if going w/ SuperPump 250 for best results. Also, drink a lot of water throughout the day and follow the instructions exactly. Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by elhammer View Post
    I have tried a few others including Super Charge by Labrada but what has really been fueling my anabolic workouts has been NaNO Vapor by Muscletech. Anything Muscletech makes is top-notch and I could go on and on about all the ingredients in it but just look for yourself! The stuff is packed full of fuel and will get you jacked!
    yes it did get me jacked... on the toilet as well... for some reason my stomach had WWIII going on when i was on that stuff
    i like the list of ingredients though
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    Originally Posted by Bravodor View Post
    Im considering using SuperPump 250 as my first ever workout stimulate. Right now I just take creatine.

    Ive read up on it and Im under the impression that it is superior to NO-explode in most peoples opinions.

    It is rather expensive though isnt it ? like 45+ bucks on bodybuilding.com.

    Is there a reliable source that has it cheaper ?

    I found a few sites that had it for 30 bucks, but Im not sure if they are reliable.

    Thoughts ?
    You might find it cheaper by a few bucks, but why not support the site? Thier shipping is FAST and prices are real close to the best you'll find.
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    Originally Posted by ccs77 View Post
    You might find it cheaper by a few bucks, but why not support the site? Thier shipping is FAST and prices are real close to the best you'll find.
    True enough.


    I have bought everything so far from BB just because I trust the site, and their prices are low.

    After posting my last comment I went ahead and ordered some with my cytogainer.

    If Im buying one thing I might here I might as well buy both.
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    [QUOTE=gdogg75;79596853]yes it did get me jacked... on the toilet as well... for some reason my stomach had WWIII going on when i was on that stuff
    i like the list of ingredients though[/QUOTE

    Thanks for yet another source confirming the real science and experience of NO products:


    Low doses .....have been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

    ? Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

    ? NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

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    whats a better product to use with quick results
    1 Nitrix
    or
    2 superpump 250
    or
    3 NO Xplode

    I'm thinking superpump?
    any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by nacoo View Post
    whats a better product to use with quick results
    1 Nitrix
    or
    2 superpump 250
    or
    3 NO Xplode

    I'm thinking superpump?
    any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by nacoo View Post
    whats a better product to use with quick results
    1 Nitrix
    or
    2 superpump 250
    or
    3 NO Xplode

    I'm thinking superpump?
    any suggestions?
    Can't go wrong with SuperPump 250 or NO Xplode. But you'll need Cellmass or Sizeon to go with it. The two NO products will give you energy and focus from the stimulants and give you a pump in the gym. Sizeon and Cellmass have the creatines that will fill the muscles and help get you some size and recovery.
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    I also have about 30 pills of 17hd.
    superpump with size on or
    super pump with cellmass
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    Originally Posted by nacoo View Post
    I also have about 30 pills of 17hd.
    superpump with size on or
    super pump with cellmass
    Either works, but if going SuperPump, I'd go with sizeOn.
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    Smile No...

    I have tried 3 NO products and I will post my encounter with each!

    MRI's No2- This promising results in the 7 days and the 21 day experience. When I first decided to make the decision to get the boost with NO I decided to use Apex which was just a creatine and still is....I was told by many bodybuilders to try MRI's No2. I did see noticeable results in the first 4 days and I was amazed with the swelling my arms and legs were producing. Although I speak only of personal experience, I was just a beginner so I think it just hit me fast because my body was new to it! I did gain in muscle mass and wanted more results. So I bought another and kept building more weight. After my cycle was over I decided to cycle off because I couldn't keep up with the bills and bodybuilding so I basically stopped for about 11 months.

    NO Explode- I really enjoyed taking the product at first and noticed that I was staying up way past my usual bed time so I decided to really review the product and I found out that it contained a lot of caffeine. I didn't really get much results, other than feeling pumped and ready to work at the gym but nothing muscle wise....

    currently taking-
    NaNO Vapor from Team Muscle Tech- By far this product has been it and I don't even have to take 2 scoops of it because it's so powerful with just one! I use two on the heavy days and one on regular building days. Just be sure to buy some glutamine to get out of the soreness.
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    Originally Posted by jbowman View Post
    I have tried 3 NO products and I will post my encounter with each!

    MRI's No2- This promising results in the 7 days and the 21 day experience. When I first decided to make the decision to get the boost with NO I decided to use Apex which was just a creatine and still is....I was told by many bodybuilders to try MRI's No2. I did see noticeable results in the first 4 days and I was amazed with the swelling my arms and legs were producing. Although I speak only of personal experience, I was just a beginner so I think it just hit me fast because my body was new to it! I did gain in muscle mass and wanted more results. So I bought another and kept building more weight. After my cycle was over I decided to cycle off because I couldn't keep up with the bills and bodybuilding so I basically stopped for about 11 months.

    NO Explode- I really enjoyed taking the product at first and noticed that I was staying up way past my usual bed time so I decided to really review the product and I found out that it contained a lot of caffeine. I didn't really get much results, other than feeling pumped and ready to work at the gym but nothing muscle wise....

    currently taking-
    NaNO Vapor from Team Muscle Tech- By far this product has been it and I don't even have to take 2 scoops of it because it's so powerful with just one! I use two on the heavy days and one on regular building days. Just be sure to buy some glutamine to get out of the soreness.

    lmfao!!

    How many ways is this the worst, most absurd post ever.........I haven't had such a good laugh in ages.
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    I have also received a PM from a person who needed hormone therapy to get their test levels back to normal after taking a very popular NO product.
    This REAL anecdote is supportive of the literature that shows that NO can LOWER test levels....
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    Originally Posted by stevothedevo View Post
    I have also received a PM from a person who needed hormone therapy to get their test levels back to normal after taking a very popular NO product.
    This REAL anecdote is supportive of the literature that shows that NO can LOWER test levels....
    Very interesting. I understand there is literature out there and I will conede that only only started this week taking Nano Vapor.
    that being the case here are the results so far:
    Weight gain (prolly water) of about 3lbs. stronger in most lifts, waist size (measure around the navel) the same as last week/same time.
    Certainly there can be a placebo effect and to be honest I was looking for something to give me a boost prior to my workouts.
    I get up at 4:45 am during the week to hit the gym and frankly most of the time I was very lethargic during my workouts. That has not been the case this week. In fact today I found myself quite "pissed off" at the weights.
    I keep a journal at the 35 and over section and I log my routines. My diet during the week practically never changes but the weekends I am a vodka/red bull guy. That has been the same all along however.
    Incidentally I have an appointment on Firday to get bloodwork done and I did ask them to test for my hormone levels due to how I was feeling PRIOR to taking Nano Vapor.

    Since I do keep a pretty thorough log I will know relatively soon if I go backwards.

    For now I am experiencing greater pumps and motivation during my workouts and perhaps through placebo, higher weights/reps on my lifts.
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    Originally Posted by stevothedevo View Post
    I have also received a PM from a person who needed hormone therapy to get their test levels back to normal after taking a very popular NO product.
    This REAL anecdote is supportive of the literature that shows that NO can LOWER test levels....
    lets see it
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    lets see it
    I won't without the authors express permission - which I have asked for and am awaiting a reply.

    In my shoes I'd like to assume you would do the same...
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    Originally Posted by kinglouis2005 View Post
    Very interesting. I understand there is literature out there and I will conede that only only started this week taking Nano Vapor.
    that being the case here are the results so far:
    Weight gain (prolly water) of about 3lbs. stronger in most lifts, waist size (measure around the navel) the same as last week/same time.
    Certainly there can be a placebo effect and to be honest I was looking for something to give me a boost prior to my workouts.
    I get up at 4:45 am during the week to hit the gym and frankly most of the time I was very lethargic during my workouts. That has not been the case this week. In fact today I found myself quite "pissed off" at the weights.
    I keep a journal at the 35 and over section and I log my routines. My diet during the week practically never changes but the weekends I am a vodka/red bull guy. That has been the same all along however.
    Incidentally I have an appointment on Firday to get bloodwork done and I did ask them to test for my hormone levels due to how I was feeling PRIOR to taking Nano Vapor.

    Since I do keep a pretty thorough log I will know relatively soon if I go backwards.

    For now I am experiencing greater pumps and motivation during my workouts and perhaps through placebo, higher weights/reps on my lifts.
    This has to be the most impressively honest post seen here in a while IMHO.

    The results of the blood panels I'm hoping you will post.
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