I know I am biased, but these are just two of the reasons, why CLOUT is as good as it gets for strength, size and performance from a creatine based product:
Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Aug;16(4):430-46.
Effect of creatine and beta-alanine supplementation on performance and endocrine responses in strength/power athletes.
Hoffman J, Ratamess N, Kang J, Mangine G, Faigenbaum A, Stout J.
Dept. of Health and Exercise Science, The College of New Jersey, Ewing, NJ 08628, USA.
The effects of creatine and creatine plus beta-alanine on strength, power, body composition, and endocrine changes were examined during a 10-wk resistance training program in collegiate football players. Thirty-three male subjects were randomly assigned to either a placebo (P), creatine (C), or creatine plus beta-alanine (CA) group. During each testing session subjects were assessed for strength (maximum bench press and squat), power (Wingate anaerobic power test, 20-jump test), and body composition. Resting blood samples were analyzed for total testosterone, cortisol, growth hormone, IGF-1, and sex hormone binding globulin. Changes in lean body mass and percent body fat were greater (P < 0.05) in CA compared to C or P. Significantly greater strength improvements were seen in CA and C compared to P. Resting testosterone concentrations were elevated in C, however, no other significant endocrine changes were noted. Results of this study demonstrate the efficacy of creatine and creatine plus beta-alanine on strength performance. Creatine plus beta-alanine supplementation appeared to have the greatest effect on lean tissue accruement and body fat composition.
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Thread: Best Overall Creatine Product?
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10-23-2007, 03:20 PM #301Echo In Eternity
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My Vote is for CLOUT
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10-23-2007, 04:51 PM #302iRun
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Wait until people get ahold of the new flavored CLOUT.
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10-23-2007, 05:34 PM #303In remission
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Can't wait...I still like CVM XT.Originally Posted by envythahustla
When are the new flavors coming out?"Giving life support to those who overdosed on an underdose of reality."--DarkPoet
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10-23-2007, 08:30 PM #304iRun
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It looks like the delays with CVM are still going on. I can't even give you a valid ETA on this product anymore since things always come up.Originally Posted by dark_man812
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10-23-2007, 08:33 PM #305In remission
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DAMMIT, Envy! It's all your fault! Do something man!Originally Posted by envythahustla
It looks like the delays with CVM are still going on. I can't even give you a valid ETA on this product anymore since things always come up.
"Giving life support to those who overdosed on an underdose of reality."--DarkPoet
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Athletic Edge Nutrition IntrAstack log:
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10-23-2007, 09:00 PM #306Registered User
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creaX3, by MAX's has 3 diff types of creatine in it...however the downfall is there is no other ingredients, i like dymatize creafizz, lots of pottasium in it
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10-23-2007, 09:15 PM #307nom nom nom
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I wouldn't mind reviewing it. Octane kicks ass so if you read this JOEY I'll log CLOUT!Originally Posted by envythahustla
Last edited by deserusan; 10-23-2007 at 10:27 PM.
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10-23-2007, 10:07 PM #308iRun
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I'm trying mayne lolOriginally Posted by dark_man812
DAMMIT, Envy! It's all your fault! Do something man!
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10-24-2007, 04:30 AM #309Registered User
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hi i was just wondering which creatine do you think is better to get big as quick as possible also which is better - AST Micronized Creatine Monohydrate OR Gaspari Nutrition SizeOn?
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10-24-2007, 05:41 AM #310Made In Singapore
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eat more, lift heavier.Originally Posted by BIG-KEBAB
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10-24-2007, 06:26 AM #311Registered User
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Bsn Cellmass
I like the taste and dont feel bloated as with other similar products. Pirce can be high but thanks to Bodybuilding.com thats no longer a problem. I use a scoop in the moring and one more scoop right after my workout.
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10-24-2007, 08:07 AM #312only plants gow naturally
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creatine
i still believe kre-alkalyn is top knoch, i have had good results!!
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10-24-2007, 09:37 PM #313ya dig?
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I had good results with BSN Cellmass, haven't tried others soo...
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10-24-2007, 10:03 PM #314Registered User
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Pssh.. SizeOn
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10-25-2007, 03:51 PM #315Registered User
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Maximum Muscle Pump
My favorite creatine is Maximum Muscle Pump. It contains creatine ethyl esther. Great stuff!
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10-27-2007, 08:41 AM #316Registered User
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purple k?
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10-27-2007, 09:30 AM #317Registered User
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I personally like Ultimate Nutrition's Horse Power. It has a nice abundance of good ingredients.
I usually just aim towards a higher quality creatine like Ester, and if some Kre-Alkalyn is in with it than all the better IMO.
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10-28-2007, 04:58 PM #318Registered User
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HP's micronized mono...cheap and effective
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10-28-2007, 07:33 PM #319Registered User
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only reason i woudl vote against is becuase intra workout is a pita and the pills arnet as goodOriginally Posted by Mako3
"Nothing is more painful to the human mind than, after the feelings have been worked up by a quick succession of events, the dead calmness of inaction and certainity which follows and deprives the soul both of hope and fear." - Mary Shelly
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10-29-2007, 01:11 PM #320Echo In Eternity
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Sounds good. Your honest and very thorough review of Body Octane was very much appreciated.Originally Posted by deserusan
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10-29-2007, 01:53 PM #321Will work for DOMS!!!!
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Phos****en HP so far
I've had good results with Phos****en HP. Best stuff I've used. However, I just ordered a container of Berry SizeOn so that could all change very soon.
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10-29-2007, 02:24 PM #322Registered User
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Muscle Tech's Cell-Tech hardcore is the best!!! I gained over 10lbs of muscle on this stuff.
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10-29-2007, 09:21 PM #323Kingkong ain't got nuthin
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Superpump250 and Sizeon
Deserusan, how can I get some samples of Superpump250 and Sizeon? I am hearing a lot of great things but I'd like to test drive these products.Originally Posted by deserusan
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10-29-2007, 09:31 PM #324Kingkong ain't got nuthin
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Superpump250 and Sizeon
Never mind Deserusan I found the link.Originally Posted by Mtawali
What a Doofas I am!!!!
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10-30-2007, 01:46 PM #325Registered User
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Cellmass-artic berry
any one tried creakic..i dont like muscletech but anyway
So size on over cellmass....has anyone tried both ifso what are the results differ from another
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10-30-2007, 02:11 PM #326Registered User
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green magnitude is a great choice and we will have samples of the new lemonade flavor in about a week (dont email/pm yet )
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10-30-2007, 03:28 PM #327Registered User
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best creatine
kreaklyn is awesome. i started with a free sample i got and it gave me the best pumps and i was putting up alot of weight. i was getting four sets instead of three and it kicked in within 15 minutes of working out. gave alot of energy. great product
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10-30-2007, 04:36 PM #328Registered User
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used to be a big believer in BSN Cell-Mass, but now that i'm back in school, i find it hard to afford this big named stuff... so i used the GNC Crea-Drive and have noticed a rather impressive gain in strength over the last 3 months. it's cheap and rather effective... it gets my vote.
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10-30-2007, 04:36 PM #329Registered User
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yo
Why u people need supplements it doesnt do anything but have bad side effects l8r in your life im only in 10th grade and i bench 200 and squat almost more the 350 with no creatine **** oh and im really not trying to brag but more like being a mentoir
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10-30-2007, 07:01 PM #330Registered User
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Originally Posted by Tru3LB50
Most people take supplements such as protein and vitimins only because they dont get enough of them in there diet. Everyone knows you dont get enough creatine in your diet, unless you eat five steaks aday. Creatine is a proven supplement and if you drink one to two gallons of water aday you will be fine. Ive taken size on and added 20 lbs to my bench, with zero side effects..just my two cents.
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