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    Question abs and electric toning pads!

    hey all was just wondering what your take on those electric muscle toning pads. Do they work! Imean ive got a low bf% and this toning system is top of the range.
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    they do have very specific uses

    they are good for injuries and aditional muscle work without straining the CNS (couse well they by pass it) but for a body builder that either way doesnt stress his CNS are not much of help, just drop down and do 2x50 crunches mate, same thing
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    Originally Posted by paul_cochrane
    hey all was just wondering what your take on those electric muscle toning pads. Do they work! Imean ive got a low bf% and this toning system is top of the range.
    I wouldn't use those just on general principles. Weighted decline sit-ups - learn to love them.
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    weighted pushups those things r are fun to strap your freidns to while they sleep
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    Cool

    They are useless if you're using them to tone down...
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    In college we called it "stim"....for stimulation I think. It is nice to work the muscles around an injury without impact training...like running. But as far as fat burning and such, total BS in my opinion.

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    They are used to prevent atrophy in muscles that are not being used. That's about the extent of it. No toning, no bulking, they just stop the muscle from shrinking away to nothing.
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    Thumbs up thanks!

    thanks you guys! But surely they must build a bit of muscle. I mean i hope it does because its top of the range and i spent about £170 uk pounds on it. The reviews looked good, stupid me!
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    holy **** dude TAKE IT BACK
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    EMS do help if you know how to use them. Those people who have not been familiar with it can claim whatever they like but they are wrong.

    You can get EMS units from $50-1500 ... read as much as possible about how to use them and you will be pleased with the results.

    Of course there is a lot of crap out there too.
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    Originally Posted by paul_cochrane
    thanks you guys! But surely they must build a bit of muscle. I mean i hope it does because its top of the range and i spent about £170 uk pounds on it. The reviews looked good, stupid me!
    Take it back, waste of money IMO. Imagine how many chicken breasts you could buy for that much money.
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    Originally Posted by triplexxx
    EMS do help if you know how to use them. Those people who have not been familiar with it can claim whatever they like but they are wrong.

    You can get EMS units from $50-1500 ... read as much as possible about how to use them and you will be pleased with the results.

    Of course there is a lot of crap out there too.
    there is a reason that companies were ordered by the ftc to cease selling those products.....all they ever did for anyone was cause heart attacks and give a massage if used properly.....they are USELESS in building muscle,maintaining muscle, and anything else besides a MASSAGE which was their original use before this crap about them being muscle builders
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    http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....article=159ems

    Do they have any real uses? They may be okay for rehabbing athletes, but could bodybuilders benefit from them? We went to Olympic sprinting coach Charlie Francis to find out. What he says may surprise you. Keep in mind, though, that while the beginning of the article applies more to runners, sprinters, football players, etc., later parts have applications for weight lifters and bodybuilders.


    The Claims, the Doubts, and the Proof

    Increase your strength beyond your natural limits!

    Twenty percent maximum strength gains in three weeks!

    Break through your training plateau!

    Sounds too good to be true, but all this is possible with the proper use of electronic muscle stimulation (EMS). EMS has been used in former Communist Bloc countries for sport training since the early 1950s, but Western countries only became aware of its use in 1973, when Dr. Y. Kots of the Central Institute of Physical Culture in the former USSR presented a paper on EMS at Concordia University in Montreal. There he outlined the tremendous potential for strength enhancement beyond that which was possible by traditional (voluntary) training methods.

    Bodybuilding Applications

    Most of what I’ve covered has dealt with non-strength athletes and rehab settings, but what about bodybuilding? Yes, EMS does have its cosmetic uses. Much like high intensity weight training, EMS increases muscular density or "hardness". Think of Ben Johnson. If you slapped him on the back you’d think you were hitting a brick wall. Although he had a great physique, he wasn’t "puffy" like Arnold; he was as hard as a rock. So the thing to think about with EMS is density, not size. Think of it as maximal strength training and not hypertrophy training.

    Also keep in mind that EMS is for large muscle groups only. Although an expert might be able to pull it off, the average user will not be able to use it on small muscle groups like the biceps, triceps and calves. These muscles will "roll up" on you, plus even if you could do it (like by placing your foot in a ski boot for calves) it would be excruciating.

    Bodybuilders could also use EMS to help them break through a barrier. For example, if a guy’s upper body is weak as compared to his legs, he could use EMS to maintain his legs for a few weeks while focusing on upper body training. Basically, he’d be allowing all his body’s recovery mechanisms and central nervous system to focus on his upper body. He wouldn’t lose any size in his legs and may even see some improvement in density during this time of upper body specialization.

    Here’s another trick that may help competitive bodybuilders. EMS can be used to temporarily "burn off" a layer of fat in small areas. What happens is that about two millimeters of subcutaneous fat is mobilized in the area directly under the pads. You can compare this to the effect seen when shooting growth hormone, i.e., there’s local mobilization of the fat at the point of injection.

    Now, since that layer of fat is a protective mechanism, this isn’t permanent. In fact, the effect doesn’t last long at all. Once the area under the pad starts to cool, the fat starts storing again. So if you’re already very lean and are competing in a bodybuilding show, you’d have to use the machine (possibly even backstage) and then cover up and keep warm until you hit the stage.








    Read the rest at the above link....
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    cheers guy!

    still in two minds tho! i mean im just starting bb so i just thought that the machine would just get me started a bit around the abs area. Burn away that little a bit of fat like it says in the last post.
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    Paul, I have got an EMS unit and have been using it as CF explained. It works and I am pleased with the results. I have applied it to my athletes and started applying it to myself over last 4 weeks. I am not saying - you go and buy an unit. No. All I am saying if you apply it as CF has explained it would work. At the end of the day that man has produced the fastest ever man on this planet and Ben did not look like a slim guy. 6x615 lbs. squats for an athlete isn't a bad squat. I wonder how many of these guys who ain't recommending EMS can squat that.
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    yeah!

    Yeah i think ill just keep it and see how it goes. ive already bought one any way. Do you know if the ellite three is any good? it seems ok and has ten different programs.
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    Paul, I have not tried that particular one however, I have EMS TS-1311 which has off time control up to 99 seconds. This one works fine for my needs.
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