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    Ronnie Coleman: better than Arnold?

    I saw the latest issue of Muscle and Fitness today and the cover story is: "King Ronnie (Better Than Arnold?).

    I was just wondering if anyone here actually thinks this? I for one could never think that, Arnold is my hero and inspiration for going to the gym in the first place. In my opinion bodybuilding should be about how good someone's physique looks and not simply how massive they can become. I'm not taking anything away from Ronnie, he is absolutely amazing, but to be compared to Arnold doesn't seem fair to me.

    Anyways, I just wanted to see what you guys thought.
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    There are tons of threads on this subject, try a search bud.
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    Like gumby said, this has been discussed a million times so do a search to hear some arguments.

    It's all opinion. Ronnie is huge, but few people (other than BB fans) think that he looks good. Arnold has charisma, smarts, and a physique admired by all. Arnold may be surpassed in bodyweight and titles, but he will always be #1 in the hearts of BBing fans.

    I don't think Coleman's achievements should be down played though. Just look at the guy. He's like a sculpture. A work of art. It's awesome, it's inspiring. You have to give him TONS of credit for what he's done and all due respect.

    If Arnold is your idol, then good for you. He's inspired millions and is a damn good guy IMO.
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    Originally Posted by Revolver45
    I saw the latest issue of Muscle and Fitness today and the cover story is: "King Ronnie (Better Than Arnold?).

    In my opinion bodybuilding should be about how good someone's physique looks and not simply how massive they can become.
    maybe frank zane should be your hero then?
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    ronnie is better then arnold in any pose any bodypart other then abs.....better arms,quads,hams,glutes,chest,back,shoulders,calves ....arnold's physique would place dead last in the compettitions of today....but then again they got better nutrition,drugs,suplements,training techniques today, so who knows? arnold weighed 240 with a 34 inch waist,thats good but look at melvin anthony who weighs 230 and has a 28 inch waist, or even titus who is considered big bellied by todays standards and he has a 33 inch waist, plus the bodybuilders of today are more cut, more dry, and with less bodyfat at a higher bodyweight........so Ronnie in my opinion is much better then arnold i mean look at arnolds severely underdeveloped legs they are pathetic by todays standards
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    Originally Posted by bigasssnowman
    maybe frank zane should be your hero then?
    Any ****ing day over Ronnie my main man...
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    ronnie owns once again
    arnold looks good but he is small campared to ronnie
    so yes ronnie is the king
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    Ronnie is huge no doubt, but bodybuilding is it for him, he cant talk, so theres no chance of movies....maybe he can go back to being a cop?
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    Bodybuilding is as much as possible judged objectively based on muscularity, symmetry, proportions and conditioning. Ronnie owns everyone here. It's not a question of which would I rather look like...
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    Originally Posted by Patu
    Any ****ing day over Ronnie my main man...

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    Originally Posted by IMMORTAL SHAKUR
    ronnie is better then arnold in any pose any bodypart other then abs.....better arms,quads,hams,glutes,chest,back,shoulders,calves ....arnold's physique would place dead last in the compettitions of today....but then again they got better nutrition,drugs,suplements,training techniques today, so who knows? arnold weighed 240 with a 34 inch waist,thats good but look at melvin anthony who weighs 230 and has a 28 inch waist, or even titus who is considered big bellied by todays standards and he has a 33 inch waist, plus the bodybuilders of today are more cut, more dry, and with less bodyfat at a higher bodyweight........so Ronnie in my opinion is much better then arnold i mean look at arnolds severely underdeveloped legs they are pathetic by todays standards
    those guys were also short
    Arnie was at least 6'1'' and I think his V-taper was as good as Melvin Anthony's and much better than Titus'

    IMO Arnie looked better than Ronnie, but Ronnie is bigger
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    You can't compare their physics - there has been 20 years of advancement in bb science. As for personality Arnold hands down.
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    Originally Posted by Cosmonaut
    You can't compare their physics - there has been 20 years of advancement in bb science. As for personality Arnold hands down.
    apparently Arnold was bitch of a guy whereas Ronnie is quite amiable in contrast.

    I would say Ronnie's first win was his best.
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    arnold a bitch of a guy huh...wow i guess being confient and cocky is being a bitch...in his day and time he was the only bodybuilder who was honest. spoke his mind with no filter i for one liked his honestly, much like Lee Priest's honesty....oh and i am sure all the special olymic children think he is a bitch of a guy for helping them out....oh i am also sure G.H. Bush's administration must have thought he was a bitch to appoint him on the council of phyiscal fitness...when big ron is in the public eye as much as arny and see how he acts then you can call arny a bitch....nlm
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    think about big ron in arnolds day.. would ronnie be that big if he lifted the same time as arnold? no... now ron and arnold in there prime in the same bbing era... that would be something to compare.. but to much advances have ben made in this sport since arnolds time.. ronnie would not come close to 300 if he lifted in the 70's and 80's..
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    I really wish Ronnie's era was back in ARnold's day, not because we could have seen him and Arnold go head to head, but Ronnie wouldn't have his GH gut (since it wasn't used back then, or at least not to the same extent), and Ronnie without the gut would be unbeatable.
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    I guess in my opinion I just don't like the direction bodybuilding has taken in the past decade or so. I still find Ronnie amazing but I admire Arnold, Frank Zane, Sergio, etc. more. I think it's a neverending debate kind of. It all depends on what your idea of looking good is. Everyone must admit that Arnold was the complete package though; great bber, charming, smart, etc.
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    Arnold anytime, not taking anything from Ronnie he is a legend in modern day BB but too much steroid abuse, he would not have stood a chance in 70's.

    The essence of natural body building is not there anymore and leading to real danger to bodybuilders life, Ronnie at off season is like a cartoon character, seriously something has to be done on steriod abuse subject and young body builders be saved.
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    Arnold is the most overrated bodybuilder in history
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    Droopy shoulders, weak triceps, weak back lat spread, weak quads, weak hams
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    Originally Posted by XxHesixX View Post
    Arnold is the most overrated bodybuilder in history
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    Originally Posted by HOCH View Post
    Droopy shoulders, weak triceps, weak back lat spread, weak quads, weak hams
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    Originally Posted by PaLftr View Post
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    And the dumbest.
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    Ronnie without the gut would be unbeatable.
    Ronnie with a gut is unbeatable too
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    Originally Posted by HOCH View Post
    Droopy shoulders, weak triceps, weak back lat spread, weak quads, weak hams
    weak lat spread? there are a few pics floating around of arnold's lat spread and it was anything but weak. have your eyes examined.
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    All subjective...I liked the more aesthetic, tighter waists of guys like Arnold, Levrone, Flex, et...never a big Ronnie fan (physique wise), especially once the gut got out of control but I respect him and what he accomplished at the same time.

    Personality wise, liked both, Arnold was cocky but kept it charismatic and Ronnie was just plain funny, having some of the best one liners.
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    Definitely think the v-taper on Arnold is more aesthetically pleasing. I would rather look like Arnold than Ronnie. To me Arnold looks more like an ancient roman or ancient greek statue, and I think that should be one of the goals of bodybuilding, to create a living work of art. The HGH gut on Ronnie looks disgusting, and I'm glad current generation of bodybuilders uses it less.

    In terms of inspiration, I think Arnold is also a better role model because he took what he learned from bodybuilding and developed a successful post-bodybuilding career. Arnold is much more of a Renaissance man, and I think being smart, strong, and successful should be what every man aspires to. Men shouldn't stop at being strong or aesthetically pleasing. Arnold's life embodies this idea.
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