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    Coupla good sunscreen links; bad ingredients, best products

    This one talks about sunscreens in general, ingredients can be toxic, ineffective or both. Label claims can be BS, not that that's news, but it's a good article:

    http://www.newstarget.com/021927.html

    From that article, this link cuts to the chase about which ones are safe and effective:

    http://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/
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    I just skimmed both articles, but I'm not suprised, this goes back to my whole theory on the government having cures for cancers but they aren't releasing them due to the fact that that would put pharmaceutical companies out of business.

    "After 29 years of debate, the government has failed to set mandatory sunscreen safety standards"

    ^^^^I wonder why?? ^^^^

    In a way its about population control, people die when they get cancer, its the second leading cause of death. United states is the third largest nation in the world, plus with all the immigration if everyone who got cancer or AIDS got a cure, think about how much more over populated we would be...
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    that newstarget site is FULL of BS. I'll use all the sunscreen I want. I get PLENTY of vitamin D from milk.
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    This isn't a surprise to me. As someone who is suffering from PIH/Melasma (Post Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation/Pregnancy Mask), I have learned a lot about sunscreens. It is now thought that US sunscreens actually make the problems worse when exposed to the sun, rather than protecting my skin condition from the sun.

    There is a really good sunscreen out that has all natural ingredients called UV Natural. The sun protecting ingredient in UV Natural is Zinc Oxide. I highly recommend this sunscreen. There was a recent study done on sunscreens and it was chosen as the #1 sunscreen, due to it's low toxicity and high effectiveness. Here is the link to the study.

    http://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/

    I currently use a chemical sunscreen by La Roche Posay that contains Mexoryl, which is not approved for use by the FDA in the US. Mexoryl protects against both UVA and UVB rays. The verdict is still out on this one for me, as it is still a chemical sunscreen as opposed to the UV Natural, but I have had no darkening of my PIH/Melasma since using it.

    Side note: I give about as much credit to the FDA at picking out what products I should/shouldn't use as I would give a monkey. The FDA is backed by corporations /deep pockets who will and do pay anything to have the FDA approve their products. JMO.
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    Originally Posted by terracotta View Post
    that newstarget site is FULL of BS. I'll use all the sunscreen I want. I get PLENTY of vitamin D from milk.
    Don't be so quick to dismiss it. If you take your sunscreen bottle and research the chemicals that are used in it, you will find that many of them are toxic. I have been doing that such things for several months in an effort to determine why my face was getting worse with the use of sunscreen.
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    Originally Posted by terracotta View Post
    that newstarget site is FULL of BS. I'll use all the sunscreen I want. I get PLENTY of vitamin D from milk.
    This site is full of BS too, in case you haven't noticed. Doesn't mean everything on it is useless. Did you read the article?
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    Originally Posted by FlyingV View Post
    This site is full of BS too, in case you haven't noticed. Doesn't mean everything on it is useless. Did you read the article?
    They made statements I flatly disagree with, and therefore, I will disregard the entire article. That's how it works with me.

    BTW, I have nothing against the second site you posted, just the newstarget article, and one I clicked a few days ago.

    Mexoryl is legal in Canada.
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    Originally Posted by terracotta View Post
    They made statements I flatly disagree with, and therefore, I will disregard the entire article. That's how it works with me.

    BTW, I have nothing against the second site you posted, just the newstarget article, and one I clicked a few days ago.

    Mexoryl is legal in Canada.
    I understand. I didn't agree with the whole Vitamin D theory myself, but b/c I am so passionate about what I have found since researching sunscreens, I just feel the need to get the info. out there about the toxic chemicals. Some of them affect hormones levels and it's frightening to me.

    Ya, Mexoryl is legal in Canada. I actually order my sunscreen from there or France.
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    I think I'll pick up some mexoryl containing sunscreen later.
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    [QUOTE=anb1683;61434371]I just skimmed both articles, but I'm not suprised, this goes back to my whole theory on the government having cures for cancers but they aren't releasing them due to the fact that that would put pharmaceutical companies out of business. QUOTE]

    You sound just like me. I could go on forever. IMO, it is what this country thrives on, that and oil. Dirty dollar makes the world go 'round.
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    [QUOTE=runnermama;61473521]
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    I just skimmed both articles, but I'm not suprised, this goes back to my whole theory on the government having cures for cancers but they aren't releasing them due to the fact that that would put pharmaceutical companies out of business. QUOTE]

    You sound just like me. I could go on forever. IMO, it is what this country thrives on, that and oil. Dirty dollar makes the world go 'round.
    Ahh good too see someone with the same thought process, some people think I'm crazy...
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    Anything from Environmental Working Group, including the cosmetics database, is not based on sound science. The newstarget article is basically a shill for EWG, which has just as much of an agenda as any pharma company. EWG has a history of releasing highly selective and misleading reports on chemicals in common products.
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    This post has me bothered as I've been using Banana Boat for the past three years in HEAVY sun exposure.
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    Its a bunch of beauricratical bull****, the same people claim that the environment is ruined from the exhaust automobiles emit.
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    Times like this i am glad i am Italian
    I'm Italian too, but in my case it was the olive skin that was my curse. It promoted my PIH/Melasma. BUT, even given that, I wouldn't want to not be Italian...
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    I don't believe that it is BS, only b/c I did a lot of research on some of the chemicals used in sunscreens and found out they were toxic when exposed to the sun. I did this way before EWG came out with this report, b/c I suffer from PIH/Melasma and was looking for what could be making it worse. I can't say whether what EWB reports is BS or not, but I know what I found out...for someone w/PIH/Melasma, using certain chemicals in US sunscreens only makes it worse. Since discontinuing the use of US sunscreens my PIH/Melasma has cleared 90%.
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    Thank you to everyone who wrote a post in this thread. Your advice is very helpful. But the selection of sunscreen is very individual. Some people will be fine with a cream that is not suitable for someone else. I am personally looking for a sunscreen that is safe for pregnant women. I have often asked on various forums is sunscreen safe during pregnancy?
    Only now I have found the answers to this question. So if you are interested in the same question, you will be able to find a lot of useful information.
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