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    Still trying to find the best Creatine supplement!

    Hi Everyone,

    So i've been researching on this forum for the best creatine supplement and I've come up with the following:

    Swol
    pros: rated one of the best creatines (could have been old thread) for creatine non-responders, has glycocyamine
    cons: expensive

    V12
    pros: rated one of the best creatines (could have been old thread) for creatine non-responders, has glycocyamine
    cons: expensive

    Green Mag
    pros: a lot of people say this is great
    cons: more expensive than universal storm, but does not have glycocyamine

    Universal Storm
    pros: fewer people say this is great, but those that do seem to REALLY stand by it. It has many different creatines and glycocyamine. CHEAP.
    cons: it contains creatine monohydrate and also doesn't list the breakdown of the 4 creatine types. (does anyone know if the creatines are listed in decreasing percentages? Tri-Creatine Malate ** Di-Creatine Malate ** Creatine Monohydrate ** Magnesium Creatine Chelate )
    Also, it doesn't list the breakdown of the insulin boosting stuff which includes glycocyamine? Swole uses 500mg of glycocyamine and I'd hope that Universal storm uses something comparable to that. Maybe they're just hiding their secrets?

    Thanks for any help!
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    i think storm added beta alanine instead of the glyco
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    having glyco should not be considered a pro
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    How could you forget about Gaspari: SizeOn ... o.O
    and let's not forget about just straight up mono.
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    How do you forget about NO-Shotgun by VPX?

    Pro's: Creatine Monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, creatine magnesium chelate, BCAA's, Btea alanine ethyl ester, and Redline's energy formula.

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    sizeon or clout two best creatines out
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    One reason why I didn't list some of the creatines you guys mentioned is because I've already tried 3 different creatines in my lifetime (since 10 years ago).

    I started with some weider monohydrate (most gains, but gave me nausea and stomach probelms)

    then I tried micronized (couldn't really tell if there were any gains, but if there were any, much less than monohydrate)

    then I tried Ethyl Esther (Higher Power from bb.com) and this form had absolutely NO gains. I remember cycling on/off CEE for a few months and I could never tell I was on it. I just remember feeling sick from how damn sour it was. Basically drinking acid!

    I've added Prolab Creatine ( the pure creatine monohydrate ) to the list, but the Gaspari SizeOn is too expensive. Also the VPX has CEE and also has protein and carbs which doesn't work for me since I supplement with a lot of protein/dextrose/maltodextrin/EAA post workout so I don't really need any more protein or carbs in my creatine product.

    With that said does anyone have any other information that may help me?

    I'm really leaning towards Green Bulge and Storm because they have creatine in a bunch of different forms and beta alanine, etc.

    I may go with the prolab pure creatine monohydrate, but if i do i'm going to load and i'm afraid i might start getting sick again from it... who knows...

    thanks for all the help guys.

    and Also...

    why did v12 and Swole somehow fall off the radar? I was reading the sticky on creatine saying they were the BEST rated creatines (for non-responders and responders alike I thought)...
    Now when I read the forums, i don't see any mention of these. Is it sort of this supplement trend where people focus on the new things?

    Matty,

    looks like storm still has both glycocymaine AND beta alanine.
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    Originally Posted by smh31 View Post
    BUDGET NEWBIE: Storm
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    I disagree clout would work just as well for a newb your logic makes no sense lol
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    i think hes commenting on knowledge of the people who purchase the products...but its hard to tell
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    Originally Posted by pinchharmonic View Post
    Universal Storm
    pros: fewer people say this is great, but those that do seem to REALLY stand by it. It has many different creatines and glycocyamine. CHEAP.
    cons: it contains creatine monohydrate and also doesn't list the breakdown of the 4 creatine types. (does anyone know if the creatines are listed in decreasing percentages? Tri-Creatine Malate ** Di-Creatine Malate ** Creatine Monohydrate ** Magnesium Creatine Chelate )
    Also, it doesn't list the breakdown of the insulin boosting stuff which includes glycocyamine? Swole uses 500mg of glycocyamine and I'd hope that Universal storm uses something comparable to that. Maybe they're just hiding their secrets?

    Thanks for any help!

    Storm does not have glyco anymore it has been replaced by beta alanine.

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    Storm will one day rule the world

    Seriously its an awesome creatine (and I have tried a lot of creatines)

    4 different types of creatine is almost insurance to know 1 of them will hit you just right. Thats why some many "non-responders" end up liking storm.

    And creatine mono is a good thing because its proven. You dont need some false claims on some new creatine because mono has seen multiple tests and passed them all.

    And its cheap, can't get any better then that.


    But if you get storm go with grape, its the better tasting flavor of the 2.
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    Originally Posted by Caporegime View Post
    I disagree clout would work just as well for a newb your logic makes no sense lol
    I still thinks its more advanced. First, people should take SizeON/Green Mag/mono to see how they respond. Then look into CLOUT for the other benefits
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    Storm will one day rule the world

    Seriously its an awesome creatine (and I have tried a lot of creatines)

    4 different types of creatine is almost insurance to know 1 of them will hit you just right. Thats why some many "non-responders" end up liking storm.

    And creatine mono is a good thing because its proven. You dont need some false claims on some new creatine because mono has seen multiple tests and passed them all.

    And its cheap, can't get any better then that.

    But if you get storm go with grape, its the better tasting flavor of the 2.
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    Originally Posted by Caporegime View Post
    I disagree clout would work just as well for a newb your logic makes no sense lol
    Storm has the same kind of creatine as SizeOn and Clout....So for that one just put all the above
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    Originally Posted by Jayman30187 View Post
    Storm has the same kind of creatine as SizeOn and Clout....So for that one just put all the above
    no it doesnt

    sizeon is creatine gluconate
    man clout - tricreatine orotine
    storm =Hypervol Complex? 5000mg **
    Tri-Creatine Malate **
    Di-Creatine Malate **
    Creatine Monohydrate **
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    no it doesnt

    sizeon is creatine gluconate
    man clout - tricreatine orotine
    storm =Hypervol Complex? 5000mg **
    Tri-Creatine Malate **
    Di-Creatine Malate **
    Creatine Monohydrate **
    Magnesium Creatine Chelate

    Check out the link below to view the new formula.


    http://www.universalnutrition.com/st...age.cfm?id=256


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    Tricreatine matrix--- Creatine Gluconate, Creatine orotate , Creatine AKG


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    Originally Posted by Jayman30187 View Post
    Check out the link below to view the new formula.


    http://www.universalnutrition.com/st...age.cfm?id=256


    Storm
    Tricreatine matrix--- Creatine Gluconate, Creatine orotate , Creatine AKG


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    Orotine?(Tricreatine Orotate)

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    i stand corrected then, damn bb.com never updates ingredients
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    i stand corrected then, damn bb.com never updates ingredients
    The only place I can find those ingredients is on Universals site.
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    Storm will one day rule the world

    Seriously its an awesome creatine (and I have tried a lot of creatines)

    4 different types of creatine is almost insurance to know 1 of them will hit you just right. Thats why some many "non-responders" end up liking storm.

    And creatine mono is a good thing because its proven. You dont need some false claims on some new creatine because mono has seen multiple tests and passed them all.

    And its cheap, can't get any better then that.


    But if you get storm go with grape, its the better tasting flavor of the 2.
    Because of the price/results I agree. You can't beat the price.
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    Originally Posted by Jayman30187 View Post
    Check out the link below to view the new formula.

    http://www.universalnutrition.com/st...age.cfm?id=256

    Storm
    Tricreatine matrix--- Creatine Gluconate, Creatine orotate , Creatine AKG

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    I never realized that before. Thanks for the updated info. Universal needs to contact all the retailers too. It's about time to order a new Storm.
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    Originally Posted by Jayman30187 View Post
    Check out the link below to view the new formula.


    http://www.universalnutrition.com/st...age.cfm?id=256


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    Tricreatine matrix--- Creatine Gluconate, Creatine orotate , Creatine AKG
    So it actually has 6 differenty types of creatines? Along with the 3 listed above, it still lists Dicreatine Malate, Magnesium Creatine Chelate and Creatine Monohydrate.
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    thanks guys for all your help.

    I'm hoping that the updated ingredient list for storm is actually the storm i'd be purchasing at bb.com....

    i'm still looking into everyone else's suggestions. thank you all.
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