wannabebig.com has a interview with Lyle McDonald up, the proclaimed Keto authority. He basically says in the interview that Keto diets are no better then carb diets. He says it is basically calories vs. calories out. He also states that a keto diet does promote more fat oxidation but the high levels of dietary fat offset this.
So what do you think. I am currently on my second week of a keto diet and I think when monday comes around and I drop to low cals I am gonna try a ration of 60/40 or 50/50. See if that works better. I would recommend checking out that interview www.wannabebig.com Kind of dissapointing.
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Thread: Step By Step Keto Diet Plan!
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10-19-2002, 09:26 AM #91
Blindfaith, you see Lyle's latest article?
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
"If you can't roll with the big dogs, stay on the chain"
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10-19-2002, 12:19 PM #92
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Re: Blindfaith, you see Lyle's latest article?
Originally posted by pitbullmuscle
wannabebig.com has a interview with Lyle McDonald up, the proclaimed Keto authority. He basically says in the interview that Keto diets are no better then carb diets. He says it is basically calories vs. calories out. He also states that a keto diet does promote more fat oxidation but the high levels of dietary fat offset this.
So what do you think. I am currently on my second week of a keto diet and I think when monday comes around and I drop to low cals I am gonna try a ration of 60/40 or 50/50. See if that works better. I would recommend checking out that interview www.wannabebig.com Kind of dissapointing.
I guess its what you prefer...with the 40-30-30 diet i usually hit a plateau after about 8 weeks....with the keto i dont hit a plateau at all. When im doing a keto diet i usually eat maybe about 1800-2000 cals...so when you do a restricted cal diet...no matter what kind...you are going to lose weight. With carb diets...i am always hungry, never satisfied, and always craving some nachoes or pizza etc. With the keto...i sometimes forget to eat and have to remind myself that perhaps i should be eating something. I never have cravings and my energy level is insane! i cant explain it but i have as much energy as if i were on eca...but without actually taking an eca...its pretty sweet.
But anyways definetly try other kinds of diet...manipulate your carb or protein intakes...there isnt just one diet out there...try em all...i have.
cheers
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10-24-2002, 07:14 AM #93
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10-31-2002, 05:09 AM #96
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11-01-2002, 03:57 PM #97
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11-02-2002, 12:13 AM #98
wow!
wow blind faith, i am new to this area of bb.com and just eat lots of protein with minimal fat and carbs, i pretty much wing it and i am in good shape, almost:-). You have me intriegd! can you post a link to a good source on this diet? it would be greatly appriciated!
thnx,
please excuse my ignoranceBIGGER IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-02-2002, 04:20 PM #99
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Re: wow!
Originally posted by Special_K
wow blind faith, i am new to this area of bb.com and just eat lots of protein with minimal fat and carbs, i pretty much wing it and i am in good shape, almost:-). You have me intriegd! can you post a link to a good source on this diet? it would be greatly appriciated!
thnx,
please excuse my ignorance
http://low-carb.org/faq/
cheers
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11-04-2002, 03:56 AM #100
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11-11-2002, 02:26 AM #102
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11-11-2002, 07:06 PM #103
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11-11-2002, 07:22 PM #104
Re: FOODS
Originally posted by jasonlemon
My wife and I want to try this. What I cant figure out is what foods do I get fat from. Can someone maybe list the foods. I looked at a few things like peanut butter but it all has carbs. thanks
Otherwise look into whipped cream ;-) eggs, good oils etc.
Psyllium husk and salad (baby rocket is v. tasty) for fibre.
cheers,
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11-12-2002, 12:05 AM #105
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11-12-2002, 05:50 PM #106
Blind Faith
good for you bro, that is great! Do you lift alot, and have you been able to build any mass, or atleast keep what you have with all that weight loss? and if so i am on the band wagon, i just eat about 4000 calories a day, but i lift hard and am pretty big, i dont want to lose that but i do need to see my abs a little better:-)
Good luck bro, keep it going! and keep us posted if you dont mind.
Later!
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11-12-2002, 09:48 PM #107
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thanx for the encouragment bro! much appreciated!
right now im doing the mat-ot program step by step to a tee! and absolutely love it! its the best training regime i have ever used! im not too sure if ive gained any size because im already 255lbs but all i know is im dropping fat like a mofo!
i train monday to friday...i do 45 mins of cardio 4 times a week and i play almost 2 hours of racquetball on saturdays and sundays.
i train first thing in the morning at about 6am...and i do this all on an empty stomach.
the supplements that i take are....biotests t2, caffine tabs, yohimbe, lipoderm-y, liver tabs, glutamine, and multi vits...and i do a Usnic Acid cycle every so often.
I have finally found a program and diet that compliment each other very well and work good for my needs and schedule.
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11-12-2002, 11:42 PM #108
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12-01-2002, 09:11 AM #109
"i personally like the 40-30-30 diet...this is a good well rounded diet that you can eat lots of different things. You can lose some really good weight with this but you can also plateau at it too. The keto will countinue to burn fat untill there is none left. "
Lemme play devil's advocate.
Who is 5% or 4% bf doing keto?
and who is that low doing 40/40/20 or 40/30/30?
I think keto brings real high BF down a lot . but the last few % is pure intensity, not so much keto/not ketoLast edited by Meni; 12-01-2002 at 10:41 AM.
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12-01-2002, 11:45 PM #110
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12-02-2002, 04:57 PM #111
One question for you guys, I understand that you should still consume simple carbs post-workout, and not count those in your daily totals, but does this include after cardio work if it is done seperately(sp?)?
For instance, I train boxing and wrestling for cardio, and sometimes do interval training on the treadmill first thing in the morning. Should I consume some simple carbs after these activities to try to preserve muscle? Even if I work out around 10 at night?
Thanks for all your help.
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12-07-2002, 01:19 PM #112
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12-14-2002, 09:04 AM #113
I AM GETTING READY MY FIRST KETO DIET. I WILL START TOMMOROW MORNING (SUNDAY).
What percent of fat calories should be saturated fat and what percent should be poly, mono????
Do you take in carbs/protein after weight workouts and cardio workouts?
Do PW carbs/protein count towards your daily calories??
How many grams of carbs a day?
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12-14-2002, 09:18 AM #114Originally posted by The_Natural
I AM GETTING READY MY FIRST KETO DIET. I WILL START TOMMOROW MORNING (SUNDAY).
What percent of fat calories should be saturated fat and what percent should be poly, mono????
Do you take in carbs/protein after weight workouts and cardio workouts?
Do PW carbs/protein count towards your daily calories??
How many grams of carbs a day?
80% unsaturated/ 20% saturated (or even less)
if you are cutting, i wouldn't take carbs/protein after cardio
just glutamine
postworkout, yes carbs and protein
I personally only count the protein cals towards my daily intake
Not sure what others do
not including PW, i would say 30 grams of carbs a day
hope someone on keto replies to your question
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12-17-2002, 04:15 PM #115
Re: Step By Step Keto Diet Plan!
Originally posted by Blindfaith
the example would need 3000 calories a day to maintain weight, and 2500 calories to begin fat loss.
Q for you guys: The man said that in order to maintain weight you should eat 3000 cals and to loose fat you need to eat 2500. so that means that i should eat 2500 or 3000 cause im confused.
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12-17-2002, 05:56 PM #116
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12-18-2002, 07:56 PM #117
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12-18-2002, 09:32 PM #118
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12-19-2002, 04:43 PM #119Originally posted by Blindfaith
the first time i ever did a keto diet...i lost like 30lbs in a month...went from 250-217...and after that i just ate whatever....3 months later i was 257lbs...i gained it all back and more! its different for everyone...i say stick with it right up to a few days before your wedding and then eat whatever until u get back from your honeymoon. That should limit u from too much reboud weight.
cheers!
and congrats on getting married!
Was that because you didn't eat right, or do you blow up everytime you come out of keto?
I was considering using keto in April to cut, so I was just wondering.
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12-22-2002, 02:14 PM #120
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its because i ate like **** after i came off the diet and i just ended up gaining back everything and more....so when you come off the diet you should slowly introduce carbs back into your system.
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