JUNGLE WARFARE & What Went Wrong

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 02:47 PM

I have a really credible anonymous source drop me a hint on Jungle Warfare. He told me his friend is in the FDA and that Jungle Warfare contained a test-like ingredient. It seemed a little hard to explain, but so were the results.

I've had several runs of Jungle Warfare throughout. Jumped on the hype soon as it came out, and the results were WOW. Energy all day, pumps, strength. Seeing as how I went past 100mg ATD, this was a little hard to explain.

My second run was the Evo Stack, which was also very good. But I actually was using a bottle of Jungle Warfare from my own supply. I kick started the Jungle Warfare a few days before the package came in, and just went through that bottle.

When I did my Hyperdrol and Jungle Warfare stack, with the new JW, the gains weren't as good as I expected. Then I did one more cycle of Jungle Warfare recently, and it was more then disappointing.

Around the time I was into my HD1/JW, Hyperdrol X2 was out, and **** stopped leasing StimulantX/Hyperdrol to Anabolic Xtreme, as well as changing the Jungle Warfare AI and later changing the Venom Hyperdrive formula. It was in the same time period that I was told about the "test-like compound" in Jungle Warfare.

Throughout this whole little trial, what this guy told me appears to be true or at least well reasoned. Patrick Arnold also tested the bottles and claimed to have some 'androgenic/anabolic' ingredient, the Dutch magazine spoke about Dianabol being in there, and nobody was able to successfully clone Hyperdrol X1 or Jungle Warfare effectively.

Now that the Jungle Warfare is 'debunked', the next focus should be Venom Hyperdrive 3.0. As we all remember, Stimulant X Cocolean edition was a extremely unsuccessful attempt at reverse-engineering Stimulant-X. CL Red Acid tried to come close by using the same coffee bean for caffeine in the same dose but did not succeed. And now.. the new Stimulant-X2, while giving a good boost, has no essence of Stimulant-X2.

This also makes me question Hyperdrol X2 and future batches of Jungle Warfare. Clearly, they are all cleaner, so can we really count on them to be effective? The hype of HDX2 and Mass FX was pretty strong, but Patrick Arnold, and many users said Mass FX does nothing. So there you go - all these products were only good because they were bad.

I don't know how credible any of these sources are, but from my personal experience and common sense, it seems to be true to me.

EDIT: Jw isnt a prosteroid, it possibly contains them off the label. Not so sure about the new ones though.

**B P Spin** · 07-09-2007, 03:05 PM

Interesting.

If HDX2 is not as "bad" as HD1, then why didn't you notice better results
while using it, despite the new batch of JW?

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 03:09 PM

I never ran HDX2 thought I have 2 bottles of it. I'm saying its not as bad as I doubt it has anything 'extra' in it.

**Dr Nick** · 07-09-2007, 03:09 PM

The "New" Jw formula is the one containing more ps than the old one if i got this right.

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Nick

The "New" Jw formula is the one containing more ps than the old one if i got this right.

Nah, the other way.

**Dr Nick** · 07-09-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by smh31

Nah, the other way.

I was right and you was wrong,the one to the left is the new one so this new drama thread ends here i belive..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=204

**Skull Crusher Chris** · 07-09-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Nick

I was right and you was wrong,the one to the left is the new one so this new drama thread ends here i belive..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=204

I thought the same thing as well, the new one contains almost all 6-DMT.

**Madevilz** · 07-09-2007, 03:34 PM

Ergomax LMG all over again.

I dont know why people still buy supps from this shady company.

**Eyayo** · 07-09-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by cboesger

I thought the same thing as well, the new one contains almost all 6-DMT.

yummmmm......cant wait to use it

**DBee** · 07-09-2007, 03:40 PM

i've been running the JW on the right(green label) for 12 weeks straight no bad sides awesome freakin size and strength gains. I'm starting PCT(inhibit-E) this week, just to be safe!

**Eyayo** · 07-09-2007, 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=B P Spin;58461671]Interesting.

If HDX2 is not as "bad" as HD1, then why didn't you notice better results
while using it, despite the new batch of JW?[/QUOTE

well if it is PS, ur not suppose to run the same compund in a row. Results never will be the same as the first run

**Dr Nick** · 07-09-2007, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by akaswolebd

i've been running the JW on the right(green label) for 12 weeks straight no bad sides awesome freakin size and strength gains. I'm starting PCT(inhibit-E) this week, just to be safe!

At 3 caps ed or more?

**B P Spin** · 07-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by smh31

Then I did one more cycle of Jungle Warfare recently, and it was more then disappointing.

I've read this before from others.

I'm curious, though, if this is the case with all products similar to JW.
How many people have used a product (JW, Ebol, X-Factor, SD, etc.)
and got the same great results during the subsequent uses.

I know all those products are very different; just listing a few examples, that's all.

**DBee** · 07-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Nick

At 3 caps ed or more?

4 caps on third bottle

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 07:07 PM

Also my second run of JW with the new capsules sucked, i hardly got any gains from it. My first run with the old bottle i got super strong.

Hmm?

**Dean6917** · 07-09-2007, 07:09 PM

sorry i have not had a chemistry class in over 22 years...its a little confusing with all this 6-dmt talk and left bottle and right bottle...which one has the steroid in it,the red bottle or the green?

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dean6917

sorry i have not had a chemistry class in over 22 years...its a little confusing with all this 6-dmt talk and left bottle and right bottle...which one has the steroid in it,the red bottle or the green?

I would guess the Green.
I actually have a bottle of the ORIGINAL batch.

6-DMT = 6-dimethyl-testosterone

**quijibo** · 07-09-2007, 07:20 PM

I think I need to go back to college and get my master's in biochemistry to understand what the **** is going on nowadays with most supps.

**dangetinthere** · 07-09-2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by smh31

I would guess the Green.
I actually have a bottle of the ORIGINAL batch.

6-DMT = 6-dimethyl-testosterone

Yup not to be confused with DMT= desoxymethyltestosterone

**Blackjackcat** · 07-09-2007, 07:28 PM

I have a bottle of the original hyperdrol that I was going to stack with Mass FX. You saying that there might be something "extra in the older version?

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Blackjackcat

I have a bottle of the original hyperdrol that I was going to stack with Mass FX. You saying that there might be something "extra in the older version?

reread the article

**Blackjackcat** · 07-09-2007, 07:37 PM

I did and thats what I got out of it. I just wasn't sure if you were refering to JW only.

**beer20** · 07-09-2007, 07:40 PM

final;y a jungle warfare and what went wrong thread....

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by beer20

final;y a jungle warfare and what went wrong thread....

**Biceps** · 07-09-2007, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by smh31

The hype of HDX2 and Mass FX was pretty strong, but Patrick Arnold, and many users said Mass FX does nothing. So there you go - all these products were only good because they were bad.

"MANY" users have said MassFX did nothing for them? MassFX was bad? I'll tell you what, compile us a list please and back up that statement. Because I'll compile a list of my own if you'd like me to of countless users of MassFX who got awesome results. Check out Timdull2's log to start

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1032251&page=4

There is no one supplement that works for everyone. I'm sure there are some who didn't see the massive strength and size gains that the overwhelming majority of users have achieved. I've been a non-responder to certain products that have worked wonderfully for many others. But that doesn't mean a product doesn't work. Any time a company rep or even owner speaks negatively about another company's product, you have to take it with a grain of salt and consider that financial profit may be a motivating factor behind such statements. This includes PA.

**Absolute0** · 07-09-2007, 09:20 PM

Has anyone else besides the OP and myself run both the new bottle and the old bottle of JW?

**Dean6917** · 07-09-2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Absolute0

Has anyone else besides the OP and myself run both the new bottle and the old bottle of JW?

i did the old bottle over the winter for 8 weeks and im on day 8 of new bottle..i still have not gotten a definate answer to which one is laced with steroids

**Absolute0** · 07-09-2007, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dean6917

i did the old bottle over the winter for 8 weeks and im on day 8 of new bottle..i still have not gotten a definate answer to which one is laced with steroids

alright i'm interested in hearing your results when you're done. My results were very similar to the OP's.

**gekkoboy14** · 07-09-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Absolute0

Has anyone else besides the OP and myself run both the new bottle and the old bottle of JW?

yea i ran the first one over the winter, runnin the current version now

**smh31** · 07-09-2007, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dean6917

i did the old bottle over the winter for 8 weeks and im on day 8 of new bottle..i still have not gotten a definate answer to which one is laced with steroids

the new one should be cleaner
it could depend on batch number

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