Glutamine...A Sham Supplement

[Nailbomb9]

In the November issue of Men's Health that has the following article on page 56. Taking glutamine has no effect on athletic performance, concludes a new research review in Current Sports Medicine Reports. Glutamine is involved in energy production, and training boosts athletes' blood levels of the acid. But not only was supplementation useless, it was found to increase LDL cholesterol levels.

OUCH!!!

[sonicology]

This has been discussed many, many times before. Glutamine is good for gut health, but claims of it being an ergogenic aid are misleading to say the least.

[Sevada]

it works for me, I take it post workout and I don't get as sore as I would if I hadn't taken it

[Dbol26]

mens health, nuff . I rate it

[-Aaron-]

mens health, nuff . I rate it

x2

That's the same magazine that said Ball-Park Hotdogs w/ Buns and Ketchup are healthy for everyday use.

[INGENIUM]

yes, it has been found time and time again to be plentiful in the diet and basically useless in supplementation...

but people are still intent on finding some use for it...

"but wait, its great for gut health" or "what about it lowering the PRAL score of meals?"

meh

[GermanNexus]

Formulated From Research
A recent study in Current Therapeutic Research, scientists examined the effects of adding the precise formulation of glutamine and branched chain amino acids found in Beverly's Glutamine Select Plus BCAAs on experienced weight trainers. Sixteen men were divided into two groups. Subjects in each group followed a similar diet, including a 40-gram daily serving of whey protein, and a supervised weight training program for ten weeks. The experimental group received additionaly 5 grams L-Glutamine and 3 grams BCAAs (1500 mg of leucine, 750 mg of isoleucine and 750 mg of valine). Precise body composition measures and repetition maxes on the bench press (at 100% bodyweight) and leg press (200% bodyweight) were recorded at the start of the experiment and again ten weeks later.
Results
The glutamine plus BCAAs group improved more than double on average than the control group on both performance test measures (bench press and leg press). In addition, the glutamine plus BCAAs group increased lean body mass by an average of 2.6 lbs. more than the control group. Besides increases in lean body mass and strength, the experimental group also experienced improved recovery post training.

[-Aaron-]

yes, it has been found time and time again to be plentiful in the diet and basically useless in supplementation...

but people are still intent on finding some use for it...

"but wait, its great for gut health" or "what about it lowering the PRAL score of meals?"

meh

Orly?

Formulated From Research
A recent study in Current Therapeutic Research, scientists examined the effects of adding the precise formulation of glutamine and branched chain amino acids found in Beverly's Glutamine Select Plus BCAAs on experienced weight trainers. Sixteen men were divided into two groups. Subjects in each group followed a similar diet, including a 40-gram daily serving of whey protein, and a supervised weight training program for ten weeks. The experimental group received additionaly 5 grams L-Glutamine and 3 grams BCAAs (1500 mg of leucine, 750 mg of isoleucine and 750 mg of valine). Precise body composition measures and repetition maxes on the bench press (at 100% bodyweight) and leg press (200% bodyweight) were recorded at the start of the experiment and again ten weeks later.
Results
The glutamine plus BCAAs group improved more than double on average than the control group on both performance test measures (bench press and leg press). In addition, the glutamine plus BCAAs group increased lean body mass by an average of 2.6 lbs. more than the control group. Besides increases in lean body mass and strength, the experimental group also experienced improved recovery post training.

Bam.

[sumguy]

Formulated From Research
A recent study in Current Therapeutic Research, scientists examined the effects of adding the precise formulation of glutamine and branched chain amino acids found in Beverly's Glutamine Select Plus BCAAs on experienced weight trainers. Sixteen men were divided into two groups. Subjects in each group followed a similar diet, including a 40-gram daily serving of whey protein, and a supervised weight training program for ten weeks. The experimental group received additionaly 5 grams L-Glutamine and 3 grams BCAAs (1500 mg of leucine, 750 mg of isoleucine and 750 mg of valine). Precise body composition measures and repetition maxes on the bench press (at 100% bodyweight) and leg press (200% bodyweight) were recorded at the start of the experiment and again ten weeks later.
Results
The glutamine plus BCAAs group improved more than double on average than the control group on both performance test measures (bench press and leg press). In addition, the glutamine plus BCAAs group increased lean body mass by an average of 2.6 lbs. more than the control group. Besides increases in lean body mass and strength, the experimental group also experienced improved recovery post training.

BCAA's are good stuff

[u5711]

Formulated From Research
A recent study in Current Therapeutic Research, scientists examined the effects of adding the precise formulation of glutamine and branched chain amino acids found in Beverly's Glutamine Select Plus BCAAs on experienced weight trainers. Sixteen men were divided into two groups. Subjects in each group followed a similar diet, including a 40-gram daily serving of whey protein, and a supervised weight training program for ten weeks. The experimental group received additionaly 5 grams L-Glutamine and 3 grams BCAAs (1500 mg of leucine, 750 mg of isoleucine and 750 mg of valine). Precise body composition measures and repetition maxes on the bench press (at 100% bodyweight) and leg press (200% bodyweight) were recorded at the start of the experiment and again ten weeks later.
Results
The glutamine plus BCAAs group improved more than double on average than the control group on both performance test measures (bench press and leg press). In addition, the glutamine plus BCAAs group increased lean body mass by an average of 2.6 lbs. more than the control group. Besides increases in lean body mass and strength, the experimental group also experienced improved recovery post training.

huuuuuuuge flaw, very easy to see. They have 2 variables in one group (i.e. BCAA + glutamine). They seemed to have left out glutamine on its own as well as BCAA. Come on... this should be blatantly obvious.

I dont see much about how they designed their experiment or how they assigned groups, but without even mentioning the word "significance" I cant help but think this study wasnt very academic.

[INGENIUM]

Formulated From Research
A recent study in Current Therapeutic Research, scientists examined the effects of adding the precise formulation of glutamine and branched chain amino acids found in Beverly's Glutamine Select Plus BCAAs on experienced weight trainers. Sixteen men were divided into two groups. Subjects in each group followed a similar diet, including a 40-gram daily serving of whey protein, and a supervised weight training program for ten weeks. The experimental group received additionaly 5 grams L-Glutamine and 3 grams BCAAs (1500 mg of leucine, 750 mg of isoleucine and 750 mg of valine). Precise body composition measures and repetition maxes on the bench press (at 100% bodyweight) and leg press (200% bodyweight) were recorded at the start of the experiment and again ten weeks later.
Results
The glutamine plus BCAAs group improved more than double on average than the control group on both performance test measures (bench press and leg press). In addition, the glutamine plus BCAAs group increased lean body mass by an average of 2.6 lbs. more than the control group. Besides increases in lean body mass and strength, the experimental group also experienced improved recovery post training.

LOL...that does nothing at all to make glutamine legit...(or anything for that matter)

the body of research against glutamine is overwhelming

here is an interesting one to check out...it found no significant effect from ~45g/day....that quite a dose

Effect of glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults.
Candow DG, Chilibeck PD, Burke DG, Davison KS, Smith-Palmer T.

[-Aaron-]

LOL...that does nothing at all to make glutamine legit...(or anything for that matter)

the body of research against glutamine is overwhelming

What does that tell you? It should say that, it's an individual thing.

[INGENIUM]

What does that tell you? It should say that, it's an individual thing.

what does what tell me?

research? it has disproven nearly every theorized use for glutamine...

its good for lowering the PRAL score of a meal. yay. so does fat...and vegetables

[thesly123]

Man I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what, but since I started taking Glutamine (few years back) It has seriously dropped my level of DOMS and speed recovery time.

There's already 4g of it in every scoop of ON whey anyways. So I really don't see the need to supplement with more then that. I don't know about you all but I drink 2-3 shakes a day. That's plenty of GLu in my opinion.

[u5711]

Man I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what, but since I started taking Glutamine (few years back) It has seriously dropped my level of DOMS and speed recovery time.

There's already 4g of it in every scoop of ON whey anyways. So I really don't see the need to supplement with more then that. I don't know about you all but I drink 2-3 shakes a day. That's plenty of GLu in my opinion.

just an FYI, the shorthand for glutamine is gln. Glu is glutamic acid.

[RADIRON]

Regardless of whether glutamine has many benefits or zero, I don't place much credence in anything that Men's Health says. They know absolutely nothing about bbing. If you want general info, and aren't truly in the iron game, then read Men's Health. If you are a bber, read Flex, first and foremost. Followed by M&F (and even that is pretty lame sometimes). MuscleMag Int'l has some good info once in a while and MD, IMO, is useless unless you use.

[little lats]

Regardless of whether glutamine has many benefits or zero, I don't place much credence in anything that Men's Health says. They know absolutely nothing about bbing. If you want general info, and aren't truly in the iron game, then read Men's Health. If you are a bber, read Flex, first and foremost. Followed by M&F (and even that is pretty lame sometimes). MuscleMag Int'l has some good info once in a while and MD, IMO, is useless unless you use.

I would advise all to not try the sex tactics in men's health. My studies have showed that they work on single woman, or those not faithful in their own marriage, but they do not work if the woman is your wife. Please, for your own safety do not try these moves on your wife....

[thesly123]

just an FYI, the shorthand for glutamine is gln. Glu is glutamic acid.

Thanks, learn something new everyday.

[qw3r]

Man I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what, but since I started taking Glutamine (few years back) It has seriously dropped my level of DOMS and speed recovery time.

just started taking thermolife's g-tek 7.5g post workout this week and i really think im noticing decreased doms and increased recovery. waste of money or not, its not half bad at bb.com's old sale price of $5.99 for two bottles

[Nathan1]

Some people are deflecting the facts by trying to discredit the source.


There have been many sources prior to this ONE.


If you think it works or that Flex is informative and not trying to push product, buy it.

The smart ones will save their money.

[Sean Loveridge]

I think the smart ones will experiment accordingly to how they respond to glutamine and other amino acids.