When I went to my parents' house for dinner Sunday night, my dad told me to stop squatting when I happened to bring up the topic of lifting. He said that it will wear down the cartilage in my spine and make me shorter. I think this is bull****, but perhaps he does have a point, since you have all that weight pushing down on you. But, the weight isn't pushing directly down on your spine, since your back is diagonal to the floor when you squat. If anything, I think that standing calve raises would wear down the spinal cartilage, since there the weight is indeed pushing straight down on your back. What do you think?
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Thread: My dad told me to stop squatting
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10-05-2004, 05:52 AM #1
My dad told me to stop squatting
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10-05-2004, 05:58 AM #2
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10-05-2004, 05:58 AM #3
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10-05-2004, 06:09 AM #4Originally Posted by DanMc
Last edited by Tim; 10-05-2004 at 06:21 AM.
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10-05-2004, 06:15 AM #5
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I think you're talking about degenerative disc disease...a form of degenerative joint disease (osteoarthritis) in the vertebral discs.
proper squatting isn't going to wear out or thin your discs. But (disclaimer: I am biased) you should be under Chiropractic care if you are concerned about having a healthy spine and discs.
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10-05-2004, 06:16 AM #6
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10-05-2004, 06:23 AM #7Originally Posted by midian
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10-05-2004, 06:40 AM #8
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10-05-2004, 06:56 AM #9Originally Posted by midian
Tim
As for the compression of cartlage or osteoarthritis its a natural event that as we get older these types of things can happen naturally. Strengthen the hell out of your abs / core. A few yrs ago after my back surgery my doc told me you'll be back within 4 yrs do to a bad disk. Its nearly 7 yrs now and I have less back trouble than ever. Lift smart and safely at all times and you should not have any issues.
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10-05-2004, 06:59 AM #10
I say it's BS. Think about it....the weight's only on you for a matter of seconds, really. It's not enough to make you permenantly squash you down in height.
If you believe this myth.....then do weighted pullups. They'll make you taller!In 1945, Adolf Hilter died and went to Hell. Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" He replied, "I am responsible for the massacre of millions" Satan said, "well done, sit to the right of my throne." In 1953, Joseph Stalin died and went to Hell. Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" He replied "I killed millions to stay in power" Satan said "good, sit to my left" 2010, Ronnie James Dio died and went to Hell, Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" Dio replied, "Bitch, get the fuk off my throne!"
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10-05-2004, 07:49 AM #11
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10-05-2004, 09:11 AM #12
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10-05-2004, 10:34 AM #14
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10-05-2004, 10:42 AM #15
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10-05-2004, 01:15 PM #16
i asked my personal trainer about this since a fat guy told me not to lift more that my body wieght. i asked about compression and he told me "no more than anything else" and basically just keep good form posture etc.
so unless millions of others have a problem, don't worry about it
a 2nd ptrainer said she never heard of that, so maybe it was a special situation due to his wieght etc.I rep back, and rep anyone in the USMC!
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10-05-2004, 01:38 PM #17
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10-05-2004, 01:39 PM #18
BS
People will find the stupidest excuses to make to avoid working hard.
Like when girls say, "I don't want to lift weights because I don't want to get all superwoman bulky looking." I say to that, if you know the secret to accidently getting all bulky overnight, let me know. Otherwise, shut up and bust that iron.
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10-05-2004, 02:14 PM #19
I'm not going to say 'yes' or 'no' on this. This is something that has been debated forever. Both sides may have arguments that make sense, but in the end, noone really knows. Just because someone is short doesn't mean that squats did that to him. And just because someone is tall and squats, doesn't mean that they couldn't have been even taller without squatting. Noone has ever done a study on on identical twins where you have one of them squat for years, and the other one not squat.
So it's pretty much a choice you gotta make for yourself. Just be informed and decide for yourself.My vids
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10-05-2004, 02:45 PM #20
Animal studies have shown that regular and significant weightbearing activites makes the skeletal structure broader, stronger, and more compact. Since it's impossible to load animals to the same degree as humans, research in this area is not thorough. As a side note, physiology of animals is extremely similar, but do differ in certain ways from those of humans. Hyperplasia is a regularly occuring phenomenon for them in weight studies, however, in humans, it's generally accepted by the medical community that this doesn't occur to a significant degree for human athletes.
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10-05-2004, 03:32 PM #21
Lifts where the spine is loaded with weight can compress the spinal discs inbetween the vertebrae, which can mess up your spine over time (although a change in height would probably be neglible if any). You do decompress during sleep though, and there's not an incredible amount of compression. But it can't hurt to be safe about it, so if you want to prevent too much compression...
You should do some spinal decompression exercises. I learned one from a book by Pavel (of dragondoor.com), where you hang from a pullup bar, breathe in with pressure and tense up every muscle in your body, then let all the pressure and tension go, and if your discs are compressed you should drop a little, from decompression. Shaking around some with your legs or pelvis could also help during this hang.
Others opt to hang from a pullup bar while supporting extra weight (like someone/something hanging onto your legs) or people who do Yoga may get an inversion sling, where they hang upside down to decompress the spine. Or perhaps you can find some other way to hang upside down.Last edited by Stagger; 10-05-2004 at 03:37 PM.
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10-05-2004, 05:11 PM #22
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10-05-2004, 06:14 PM #23
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10-05-2004, 07:16 PM #24Originally Posted by miltoneyIf a guy is muscular but cant lift worth **** he is nuthing but a cosmetic pussy ,non functional muscle size =pointless silicon implants as far as i `m concerned
-> A-Rod
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10-05-2004, 08:00 PM #25
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10-05-2004, 08:01 PM #26Originally Posted by White PrinceIf a guy is muscular but cant lift worth **** he is nuthing but a cosmetic pussy ,non functional muscle size =pointless silicon implants as far as i `m concerned
-> A-Rod
You want big muscles, girly man? Find big rock. Pick up big rock. Raise big rock overhead. Repeat as neccesary.
-> rent-a-lambo
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10-05-2004, 08:08 PM #27
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10-05-2004, 09:55 PM #28Originally Posted by PROSA"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
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Burn that into your head and quit looking for quick fixes and secrets. Because they don't exist."
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