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    Question light deadlifts better than no deadlifts?

    due to an injury, i can't do heavy deadlifts, so maybe 2 months ago i gave up on them and just did some hyperextensions to fill the void (i know - ****ty subsitute.) my question is, should i go back to doing deadlifts with light weight, or should i just stick with hyperextensions? when i say "light weight" i dont mean, like, just the bar...i just mean, i cant go balls out like with everything else...maybe like 135 or 155 (keeping in mind that i'm not a big guy), and im sure ill make progress, just very slowly, but it might be better than not doing DL's at all, right?

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    IMO I think that any dead-lift is better than no dead-lift.

    My friend/workout partner won't do ANY dead-lifts ever since he hurt his back a year and a half ago. I think he is selling himself short.
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    Originally Posted by tbomb
    due to an injury, i can't do heavy deadlifts, so maybe 2 months ago i gave up on them and just did some hyperextensions to fill the void (i know - ****ty subsitute.) my question is, should i go back to doing deadlifts with light weight, or should i just stick with hyperextensions? when i say "light weight" i dont mean, like, just the bar...i just mean, i cant go balls out like with everything else...maybe like 135 or 155 (keeping in mind that i'm not a big guy), and im sure ill make progress, just very slowly, but it might be better than not doing DL's at all, right?

    what do you guys think?
    Hmmm, I gave up stiff legged deadlifts and have been doing hyperextensions for the last few months. My lower back is looking much better than it ever did with sldl's.
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
    Hmmm, I gave up stiff legged deadlifts and have been doing hyperextensions for the last few months. My lower back is looking much better than it ever did with sldl's.
    SLDL's arent really for your lower back.

    i dont do SLDL's anymore no matter what - i have no need for them - my hams are exploding without them.

    i was just talking about regular ol' traditional deadlifts. the in jury isnt in my back, per se, so i think i might try them again next week and see what happens.
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    Originally Posted by tbomb
    SLDL's arent really for your lower back.

    i dont do SLDL's anymore no matter what - i have no need for them - my hams are exploding without them.

    i was just talking about regular ol' traditional deadlifts. the in jury isnt in my back, per se, so i think i might try them again next week and see what happens.
    Deadlifts are overrated to me anyways. No one in my family has done them for years and they are not lacking any size, especially on their backs. I don't know why some of the members here act like they are so necessary.
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    if given that choice, myself, i wouldn't do any and just wait until i'm healthy to do them (actually i was in that position a few years ago, and that's what i did - didn't do them until i could).
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    Originally Posted by hyp3r3xt3nsion
    if given that choice, myself, i wouldn't do any and just wait until i'm healthy to do them (actually i was in that position a few years ago, and that's what i did - didn't do them until i could).
    heh, well, its not like that injury is ever gonna "heal" itself. its a pinched nerve which NEVER aggrivates me unless i have a tremendous amount of weight pulling down on my arms (ive had it for years.) deadlifts are surprisingly the only exercise that i get pain from...shrugs are fine...and im not really planning on surgery anytime soon, if ever. a year and a half ago i had surgery on my left wrist - i dont want another year of downtime, though, the wrist couldnt really have been put off.
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    Originally Posted by tbomb
    due to an injury, i can't do heavy deadlifts, so maybe 2 months ago i gave up on them and just did some hyperextensions to fill the void (i know - ****ty subsitute.) my question is, should i go back to doing deadlifts with light weight, or should i just stick with hyperextensions? when i say "light weight" i dont mean, like, just the bar...i just mean, i cant go balls out like with everything else...maybe like 135 or 155 (keeping in mind that i'm not a big guy), and im sure ill make progress, just very slowly, but it might be better than not doing DL's at all, right?

    what do you guys think?
    A 135-155# deadlift is not a bad deadlift. Sure, you aren't setting any records. But, i would bet there are many a guy in the gym that couldn't even do that with proper form.
    I would DEFINITELY do the deads. There is nothing else that works the lower back as well.
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    Originally Posted by Eric_FXST
    A 135-155# deadlift is not a bad deadlift. Sure, you aren't setting any records. But, i would bet there are many a guy in the gym that couldn't even do that with proper form.
    I would DEFINITELY do the deads. There is nothing else that works the lower back as well.
    i doubt there are many able bodied people who cant dl 135
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
    Deadlifts are overrated to me anyways. No one in my family has done them for years and they are not lacking any size, especially on their backs. I don't know why some of the members here act like they are so necessary.
    few exercises are as good for functional strength as the deadlift
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    I agree that lite deads are better than no deads at all
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    Originally Posted by tbomb
    heh, well, its not like that injury is ever gonna "heal" itself. its a pinched nerve which NEVER aggrivates me unless i have a tremendous amount of weight pulling down on my arms (ive had it for years.) deadlifts are surprisingly the only exercise that i get pain from...shrugs are fine...and im not really planning on surgery anytime soon, if ever. a year and a half ago i had surgery on my left wrist - i dont want another year of downtime, though, the wrist couldnt really have been put off.

    same here (not same condition, just same not ever going to heal itself). i don't deadlift anymore, and when i feel good and up to it a rack pull. i can still move a lot of poundage rack pulling (500+ ) and can read my body such that if it isn't doing good, i don't do it.
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    Do the light deadlifts...

    as for good mornings, I tend to feel those more in my Hams,(almost like a SLDL except the weight is on my back). I feel it a little bit in my back, but mostly hams. Most people I talk to feel the same way.
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    Lighter to hold form...

    FWIW I usually fatigue part way thru my 4 dead sets if I have "moved up" in weight. When this happens (fatigue in general on DLs) I get *really* tired and worry a lot about form with weights anywhere near my std 6 rep norm. In response I drop my weight pretty seriously and concentrate on perfect form but higher reps to complete the workout.

    Been reading about plyometrics and maybe another interesting choice would be doing some explosive DLs at lower weight. Activates muscle and stresses the CNS differently then go-slow heavies, but if you can hold form could be interesting.

    I like the way DLs exhaust me and would not want to stop them.
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    Originally Posted by Furious E
    i doubt there are many able bodied people who cant dl 135

    Then you must think the whole world bodybuilds. I have many friends who are my age and can't even grip a 135lb bar, yet alone dead it. Many people say the average guy can bench this or whatever, but from what I've seen from peolpe around me, they are all pussies or maybe people like to exagerate what the average guy who doesn't lift can do?
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    Try a trap bar - it takes a lot of the stress out of the lower back.
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