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    Hcg

    Anybody know off-hand what the exact legal status of HCG is? I'm thinking of trying a lnger duration 1-ad, 4-ad cycle, but am hesitant to w/o HCG. Is it in the same league as nolva and clomid, prescription but with loopholes?

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    I really don't think that HCG is going to be necessary for a 1ad/4ad stack unless you're running it for like 9months
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    Re: Hcg

    Originally posted by Mr.Sinister
    Is it in the same league as nolva and clomid, prescription but with loopholes?

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    there are not as many loopholes for hcg. you can find it if you look hard enough. yes it is prescription only
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    Originally posted by gfletch
    I really don't think that HCG is going to be necessary for a 1ad/4ad stack unless you're running it for like 9months
    necessary no but its a good idea. only you have to inject it, why not run real gear?
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    Originally posted by kj2833
    necessary no but its a good idea. only you have to inject it, why not run real gear?
    Just trying to stay within the boands of the law.
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    Originally posted by Mr.Sinister
    Just trying to stay within the boands of the law.
    then no, ordering poses some risk.
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    HCG is used to promote fullness in the testicles so they can begin functioning after they've been athrophied from steroid use. If your balls didn't shrink, there's no need to use it.

    It is NOT in the same class as Nolvadex which is prescribed to treat breast cancer.

    It is a fertility drug for women as is Clomid so in that regard it's similar, but not chemically.

    It is not an anti-estrogen. It increases estrogen -- as does Clomid in some people, but that's another story.
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    Originally posted by Your Ad Here
    HCG is used to promote fullness in the testicles so they can begin functioning after they've been athrophied from steroid use. If your balls didn't shrink, there's no need to use it.

    It is NOT in the same class as Nolvadex which is prescribed to treat breast cancer.

    It is a fertility drug for women as is Clomid so in that regard it's similar, but not chemically.

    It is not an anti-estrogen. It increases estrogen -- as does Clomid in some people, but that's another story.
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    Anybody know off-hand what the exact legal status of HCG is? I'm thinking of trying a lnger duration 1-ad, 4-ad cycle
    how would his balls have shrunk if he hasnt even done the cycle yet?

    btw. in case you didnt notice he knows what it is.
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    Originally posted by kj2833
    how would his balls have shrunk if he hasnt even done the cycle yet?

    btw. in case you didnt notice he knows what it is.
    Then why were you telling him he had to inject it?
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    Originally posted by Your Ad Here
    Then why were you telling him he had to inject it?
    not everywhere that tells you what it is tells you that part. some do, some dont mention it.

    otherwise he wouldnt know that its needed for long cycles, so he knows something.

    i shouldnt have to tell you this, whats up with that
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    Originally posted by kj2833
    not everywhere that tells you what it is tells you that part. some do, some dont mention it.

    otherwise he wouldnt know that its needed for long cycles, so he knows something.

    i shouldnt have to tell you this, whats up with that

    Huh?
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    Originally posted by Your Ad Here
    Huh?
    which part are you confused on here? that not everywhere tells you that you have to inject hcg
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    Originally posted by kj2833
    which part are you confused on here? that not everywhere tells you that you have to inject hcg

    Not everyone knows that it isn't always needed or that it raises estrogen or that the clinical dosing is for women.
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    Originally posted by Your Ad Here
    Not everyone knows that it isn't always needed or that it raises estrogen or that the clinical dosing is for women.
    Ok im done here, you are not making any sense. I said nothing about your points, why bring them back up? are you bored or something?
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    Actually HCG is, if I've read the literature correctly, illegal to prescribe to women.

    From http://www.hcgnovarelresearch.com/hcg-disclaimer.htm


    " ATTENTION: FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS THE PRESCRIBING OF HCG (ALSO KNOWN AS HCG NOVAREL OR NOVAREL) TO WOMEN. THIS SUBSTANCE WAS ONLY APPROVED BY THE FDA FOR USE BY MEN. WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT ANY WOMEN CONSIDERING THE PURCHASE OF HCG FOR OTHER THAN ITS INTENDED PURPOSE SEEK THE ADVICE OF THEIR PHYSICIAN. FURTHERMORE, WE URGE YOU TO BE WARY OF ANY WEBSITES OFFERING TO PRESCRIBE HCG TO WOMEN… THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW."
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    Originally posted by Mr.Sinister
    Actually HCG is, if I've read the literature correctly, illegal to prescribe to women.

    From http://www.hcgnovarelresearch.com/hcg-disclaimer.htm


    " ATTENTION: FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS THE PRESCRIBING OF HCG (ALSO KNOWN AS HCG NOVAREL OR NOVAREL) TO WOMEN. THIS SUBSTANCE WAS ONLY APPROVED BY THE FDA FOR USE BY MEN. WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT ANY WOMEN CONSIDERING THE PURCHASE OF HCG FOR OTHER THAN ITS INTENDED PURPOSE SEEK THE ADVICE OF THEIR PHYSICIAN. FURTHERMORE, WE URGE YOU TO BE WARY OF ANY WEBSITES OFFERING TO PRESCRIBE HCG TO WOMEN� THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW."
    prescribing it would be for long term, which is only available to men if im thinking correctly. Women getting it for fertility would probably only get one dose, and that would not require a prescription, only for the doctor to administer it once. it would not be available for take home if you will.


    Some normal pregnancies will have quite low levels of HCG - and deliver perfect babies. Caution must be used in making too much of HCG "numbers". Ultrasound findings after 5-6 weeks of pregnancy are much more predictive of pregnancy outcome than are HCG levels.

    For women that have had an HCG injection as part of their infertility treatment, the hormone will take about 5-14 days to clear from the woman's system, depending on the dose and the individual woman. This can causes problems with interpretation of pregnancy tests done earlier than 14 days after an HCG injection.
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    kj2833,

    Thank you for that info. Always something new to learn.

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    Originally posted by Mr.Sinister
    kj2833,

    Thank you for that info. Always something new to learn.

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    no problem, what you have to also keep in mind. i didnt mention earlier is that sometimes for men they prescribe it for take home, and they teach you how to inject it so you dont have to come back to the doc.
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    It is not a prescription-

    Originally Posted by kj2833 View Post
    there are not as many loopholes for hcg. you can find it if you look hard enough. yes it is prescription only
    You can get it online or at GNC stores- but as a nasal spray or drops instead of an injectable.
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    It wouldnt hurt to run on an extended cycle. You would want to run it on cycle to keep balls hanging low but discontinue in PCT as it will keep you suppressed and make it tougher to rebound test. HCG on cycle, Nolva/Clomid PCT.
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    Non injection hCG

    Originally Posted by kj2833 View Post
    which part are you confused on here? that not everywhere tells you that you have to inject hcg
    My doc tells me there is a hCG topical and Sublingual Drops. She's comfortable with the pharm grade topical, no exp with the under the tongue version.
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