I'm talking about the basic squat in rippetoe's. I know your knees are supposed to point to the same direction as your toes, and at which angle you're supposed to keep your toes (and hence your knees) pointing. How far apart must you keep your feet though?
05-29-2007, 02:20 PM #1
Knee, toe and leg positionning during a Squat
05-29-2007, 03:22 PM #2
05-29-2007, 03:50 PM #3
were to point
05-29-2007, 03:55 PM #4
05-29-2007, 04:37 PM #5
05-31-2007, 09:36 PM #6
Ohh, I see!
I was at the gym and asked one of the monitors to verify my form, and he explicitly said "make sure your knees and toes point in the same direction." It's very logical to assume that your knees and toes point at the same place, but the fact that he warned me about it got me a bit worried.
Thanks for all the answers, it helped.
06-21-2007, 07:40 AM #7
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But also tried to work on my squat form with him . I think I am starting to grasp little bit where I have problems ( i think it is the unhinge hips first part, keep your knees as immobile as possible part)
Anyway this guys advide about knees seems sound but he want me to have my toes point straight ahead - which is very unnaturaly leg position ( I naturlly keep them at about 30 degress when squatting mid stance) . He insists on this thing .
I personally would prefer squat wider (that seem help unhinging my hips part) and that just require toes pointing at angle.I stumbled at what to do
06-22-2007, 09:52 AM #8
As far as getting the trainer, I think that is great. Always good to learn new information, and it is best to just do it the way he said's. When you are done with all the training sessions, just keep what you think works/is best and discard what you think does not. Just remember that not all trainers are created equal. There is a lot of information out there and many people will disagree with what works or not. There are many things to look for in a trainer, how many years have they lifted weights, have they tried many different programs, are they always trying something new and learning or not, are they certified, how good is that certification, are they degreed in that field, do they just quote information really well, or can they do more then quote it and look confident ( many people can quote information but getting results in the application is another story, so look at if they understand how to apply that big of information in mutable ways), do they understand the difference between what they feel is a fact (gym myth) to actual documented facts ( many don't know the difference), do they have a build that said's I really know my stuff or I kind of know my stuff and I look like Joe blow off the street. A trainer charges a lot of money, make sure you get your money worth. I have known trainers when I was one, that felt if they made you winded that was a good workout. So find a trainer that can really teach you a lot of information and really break it down, instead of one that can just make a few over generalized statements and stops form there.
06-22-2007, 10:34 AM #9
Wider stance, sitting back (knees behind toes) squats targets the hams/glutes.
Closer stance (shoulder-width), knees past toes targets the quads.
If you have tight hips it will be really hard to do deep shoulder-width stance squats..
Personally, I prefer the closer stance targetting the quads as I do deads on my leg day also and deads target the posterior chain (hams/glutes/lower back) sufficiently.
However, if you're used to the wider stance, you should progress to this stance and stretch out your back and hips frequently or else you will have poor form and may throw out your back or will not be able to go low enough for good quad activation...
Just my opinions though... take it for what it's worth.
06-22-2007, 10:39 AM #10
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Anyhow, I'm not deformed but I have to really push to get my knees out where they should be. This helps me keep my shins more upright and overall helps my squat.
As far as angle goes, I think you just want your feet to point in the same direction as your femur.
Edit: I forgot to mention. Everything I know is based on an athletic type squat. So I don't know what pertains if shooting for something wider or narrower.
Last edited by ogesII; 06-22-2007 at 10:41 AM.Crossfit with a 3x5 or 5x5 here and there
06-22-2007, 10:51 AM #11
06-22-2007, 11:05 AM #12
OgesII is right. Your knees will always point in the right direction, its the femur you should worry about. This only happens if you don't drive your knees outwards while you squat. Allowing them to buckle in is what makes you knees "not inline with your toes", in PT speak. I've found tat forcing your knees outward also helps focus on the glutes, which makes sense because you don't really need to force your knees out with a narrow stance.
06-26-2007, 12:06 PM #13