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    First off, I'd like to thank Universal/Animal for providing the opportunity to test these two products. I was already interested in Animal Pump for my next stack and have heard good things about Torrent as well so I'm eager to get this party started.

    Product Information:
    Animal Pump: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/pump.html
    Torrent: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/torr.html

    About me
    Age: 23
    Weight: 185 lbs
    Height: 6'2
    Bodyfat: 13.5%

    I've lifted a bit here and there since high school but didn't get serious about it until about 4 months ago. Now it's a way of life that's here to stay!!

    Current max lifts
    Bench: 215
    Squat: 285
    Deadlift: 285 (just started )

    Training Protocol
    Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
    Day 2: Back/Legs/Bi
    Day 3: Off
    Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
    Day 5: Back/Legs/Bi
    Day 6: Off
    Day 7: Off

    I'll also be doing cardio (mostly run/walk on treadmill) 3-4x a week on "Off" days and chest/etc days.

    Diet
    3300-3600 cals/day with a ~45:35:20 breakdown

    Status
    Recomping

    Other Supplements
    Purple Wraath (pre-during lifting)
    Green Mag (off days)
    One a Day multi
    Fish Oil
    Flax Oil
    ON Whey
    ON casein
    Primaforce Glutamine

    Log Duration
    There are 15 serving of Torrent supplied so the log will run until 15 days of training have occurred.

    I'll be updating this log daily (or close to) recording my workouts and making observations and comments on the stack and including any other relative information.

    I welcome all input so feel free to comment as you please.
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    Originally Posted by warbird00 View Post
    you workout?!?!
    say it aint so....i thought u were a real miscer
    Hahahaha NEGGED!!!

    j/k

    On another note, it looks like I made my banner too big. Ah well, I have no idea how to change it and it took me long enough to make that one (yes PS skills are limited).

    - Edit: Fixed it
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    Day 1 Chest/Shoulders/Tri + Taste review



    Day 1: Chest/Shoulder/Tri


    Taste Reviews

    Animal Pump: The pills were easy to swallow. No complaints there.

    Torrent: The flavor was pretty sweet, a bit too much for my preference. I used the called for 3 scoops and 20 oz of cold water. I think I may dilute it a bit more with ~10 oz more cold water. It mixed up great and the flavor reminded me of cherry flavored Airheads...

    The Workout: Chest/Shoulder/Tri

    Db Press
    55x14 warm-up
    75x10 PR
    75x6
    75x5

    Incline Db Press
    60x8
    60x4

    Incline Fly
    35x10
    35x12
    35x10

    Dips (bodyweight only)
    11x
    10x

    Db Shoulder Press
    50x4
    45x4

    Db front raise
    25x10
    25x10

    Lat Db Alternating Raise
    25x10
    25x10

    Rope Pulldowns
    60x10
    65x10
    70x6
    70x5

    Thoughts and Comments:
    I wasn't able to take the AP on an empty stomach today as I got back from Mother's Day dinner (PF Chang's) around 6 pm and the gym closed at 8 pm. I had one PR which felt good. However, my endurance was trash today and my shoulder press was pathetic. I attribute this to the previous weekend's poor eating/sleeping/drinking habits (college graduation, family in town, celebrating...). I'm looking forward to redeeming myself tomorrow.

    Evalutation:
    Strength: 7.5/10
    Endurance: 6.5/10
    Pump: 7/10
    Overall: 7/10
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    Thumbs up Day 2 Legs/Back/Bi



    Day 2: Legs/Back/Bi


    Comment on taste: I mixed 30 oz of cold water (compared to the called for 20) with 3 scoops (one serving) of Torrent today PWO and the flavor was MUCH better imo.

    The Workout: Legs/Back/Bi

    Squats
    135x12 (warm up)
    225x10
    225x8
    225x5

    Deadlifts
    185x10*
    185x10*
    185x10*

    Lat Pulldown
    135x15
    165x12
    180x7 PR
    180x5

    Seated Calf Raise
    115x20
    115x20
    115x20

    Lying T-Bar Row
    90x10
    90x10
    90x8

    Db Curls
    35x6
    35x7
    35x6
    35x5

    * I went light with the deadlifts since I felt a little strain in my lower back after squats. Also, this is my first week doing them (in a long time) as the gym I was going to previously (Planet Gayness) didn't have BBs so I couldn't do them. Now that I'm lifting at the SRC again, I'm looking forward to being able to do squats and deads...

    Comments:
    Overall it was a pretty good workout. I had one PR, which is always a good thing (even though it was on a machine). As mentioned previously, I had a little "strain" in my lower back which kept my deadlifts light. I'll keep them light for the next week or two to build up strength in my lower back before loading up too much weight. I was able to take the AP on an empty stomach and I definitely felt it much more today. My endurance was back and I felt strong through most of the lifts. I also had a decent pump going after a few sets.

    Evalutation:
    Strength: 8.5/10
    Endurance: 8/10
    Pump: 8.5/10
    Overall: 8.5/10


    On the menu tonight:
    Salmon, asparagus, and sweet potatoes...
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    Unhappy Day 3: OFF



    Day 3: Off


    Yesterday was an off day, I hate off days. I had a serving of Green Mag in the evening to keep my creatine level up.

    Day 4 entry coming soon...

    Bring on Chest/Shoulder/Tri/Abs!!!!
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    Awesome log man! Can't wait to follow along, love the set up Scribed!!
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    That salmon... looks... so... good... *drools*
    Yeah, it was pretty tasty. I grilled it with some fresh lemon juice and a very small amount of olive oil. I'm thinking about making Flank Steak tonight....
    Originally Posted by cboesger View Post
    Awesome log man! Can't wait to follow along, love the set up Scribed!!
    Thanks !

    Thanks for stopping by fellas.

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    Hopefully you will see some size and strength gains. I just bought a tub of size on but was thinking about buying this stack and may do so in the future since ive heard good things. Keep us updated
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    Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs



    Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs


    Today's workout got all fukced up.

    It started off incredible. I busted out 2 PRs on db bench press but afterwards, on my first set of db incline, I had a serious discomfort in my left shoulder. At this point I as irate. I was pumped with my PRs and looking forward to setting a couple more for the day. But, my shoulder hurt significantly so I couldn't proceed as expected. I wanted to hurl a 45 at the mirrors.

    FUKC!!!

    So after I quit crying I decided to man up and work lower weights for higher reps. My left shoulder wasn't having inclines so I tried crossovers. That went well for 2 sets but it began to hurt again so I moved on...

    It should also be noted that I went to Planet Fitness today, and not the SRC so the machine weights are different.

    Anyway, here is the workout:

    Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs

    Db bench press
    55x12 (warm up)
    75x11 PR
    80x6 PR
    80x6

    Db incline press
    60x9
    (insert intense left shoulder "discomfort" here)

    Cable crossovers
    80x19
    70x10

    Rope push downs
    70x25
    70x25
    70x18
    70x20

    Standing pulley across body(don't know name)
    20x10
    20x12
    20x12
    20x10

    Upright cable row
    80x16
    70x20
    70x15

    Rope push downs Again!!
    70x25
    70x20
    70x13

    Stiff leg raise
    20x
    20x

    Dips
    9x

    Ball crunch
    20x
    20x

    Stiff leg raise
    15x
    15x
    15x
    12x

    Comments:
    Besides the pain in my left shoulder, the workout ended up pretty well. I got an INSANE pump in my triceps after the high rep rope pulldowns (hence doing them twice). I tried to work around the pain and it ended up pretty well. I've been feeling strong lately, probably as a result of my new split, improved diet of late, and the addition of this new stack (although the latter is probably mostly mental as I just started it). Either way, I'm feeling good.

    Evaluation:
    Strength: 8.5/10
    Endurance: 9/10
    Pump: 9.5/10
    Overall: 9/10

    I added new progress pics on my bspace. You can check those out here:

    http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/SF...n=progresspics

    *I'm planning on going light/high rep on the next two chest/tri/shoulder days in order to let my rotator cuff (which I believe is the problem) heal up before I do any long term damage to it. I've looking into things I can do to speed recovery and prevent injury but I'd appreciate any suggestions that you may have.
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    Originally Posted by thatsdefyo View Post
    Hopefully you will see some size and strength gains. I just bought a tub of size on but was thinking about buying this stack and may do so in the future since ive heard good things. Keep us updated
    I plan on updating daily, so stay tuned.

    I've heard nothing but good things about this stack so far, so I'm looking forward to the gains in a couple weeks...
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    Yo S, made a good point about Torrent... Though 20 oz. of water is suggested, you can feel free to experiment and add more/subtract based on taste. Glad to hear more water works for you.
    Yeah, using ~30 oz works well. The 20 oz mixture was too sweet for me. The 30 oz is pretty tasty though.
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    Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
    Day 2: Back/Legs/Bi
    Day 3: Off
    Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
    Day 5: Back/Legs/Bi
    Day 6: Off
    Day 7: Off

    I'll also be doing cardio (mostly run/walk on treadmill) 3-4x a week on "Off" days and chest/etc days.
    Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Training:

    ..Mon - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs; Cardio
    ..Tues - Legs/Back/Bis/Calves
    ..Wed - Cardio
    ..Thur - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs; Cardio
    ..Fri - Cardio
    ..Sat - Legs/Back/Bis/Calves
    ..Sun - OFF
    Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
    I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.
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    As far as your shoulder (rotator cuff), I would avoid decline like the plague... even flat bench should be minimized... Stick to incline... I had to take 2 months off decline and flat bench and do exclusively incline to get my shoulder better after going heavy one day on flat and decline... Almost the exact same situation as you ran into

    Anyway, the good news is that doing tons of incline did wonders for my chest, and now it's my primary chest routine, with a little bit of flat bench and I rarely do decline anymore because I don't want to risk hurting my shoulder again...

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    Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
    I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.
    Hits each bodypart twice a week... That's not bad! I might take this kind of split into consideration... though it seems like it would take about 2 hours to do if I do a complete workout for each body part... Plus other complication such as soreness and etc might come into play. I'll have to think about this for myself though.
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    Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
    I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.
    I think you're onto something...

    I still have mixed feelings on this split. Chest/etc day is fine but having legs and back together is kicking my ass! Also with doing legs 2x a week, I haven't been able to do much cardio since my legs are always "tender". I'm going to switch to one light day and one heavy day which should remedy that (that was the initial plan anyway). I'm used to doing a 5 day split so it's tough to limit the # of sets for each group...

    That being said, I've had some great strength gains even in the first 2 weeks on this split so I really can't complain. I guess I'll see how it goes.

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    As far as your shoulder (rotator cuff), I would avoid decline like the plague... even flat bench should be minimized... Stick to incline... I had to take 2 months off decline and flat bench and do exclusively incline to get my shoulder better after going heavy one day on flat and decline... Almost the exact same situation as you ran into

    Anyway, the good news is that doing tons of incline did wonders for my chest, and now it's my primary chest routine, with a little bit of flat bench and I rarely do decline anymore because I don't want to risk hurting my shoulder again...

    PS - I am starting Torrent today for the first time! (I'm not going to post a log)
    That's strange because my shoulder usually bothers me on incline rather than on flat bench. I'm going light/high rep for the next 2-3 workouts which will hopefully give it some time to heal/strengthen (yes optimistic).

    You should like the Torrent, most people do. It was a bit too sweet for me initially with 20 oz so I diluted it with an additional 10 oz.

    Originally Posted by extremenergy3 View Post
    Hits each bodypart twice a week... That's not bad! I might take this kind of split into consideration... though it seems like it would take about 2 hours to do if I do a complete workout for each body part... Plus other complication such as soreness and etc might come into play. I'll have to think about this for myself though.
    Well the idea (for me anyway) is to do about 1/2-3/4 of the regular sets that you'd do for each group, twice a week. That allows me to go heavier/harder on each group and to do more sets total for most groups. By doing less sets per workout, my body can recover quicker and is ready for the next day. Also, you should think about utilizing a heavy/light split as well which allows your muscles ~3 days off after heavy days.

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    Day 5: B Heavy
    Day 6: OFF
    Day 7: OFF
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    You should like the Torrent, most people do. It was a bit too sweet for me initially with 20 oz so I diluted with an additional 10 oz.
    Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"
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    Originally Posted by SFriday425 View Post
    I think you're onto something...

    I still have mixed feelings on this split. Chest/etc day is fine but having legs and back together is kicking my ass! Also with doing legs 2x a week, I haven't been able to do much cardio since my legs are always "tender". I'm going to switch to one light day and one heavy day which should remedy that (that was the initial plan anyway). I'm used to doing a 5 day split so it's tough to limit the # of sets for each group...

    That being said, I've had some great strength gains even in the first 2 weeks on this split so I really can't complain. I guess I'll see how it goes.

    Oh, and I'll be following you log.
    Ahh, I see.. I have been doing upper/lower before, so this is lot kinder to the legs and lets me do more cardio, since I've literally halved my leg work.. heh, yeah still leg/back is a frkn killer for sure.
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    Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"
    Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...
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    Originally Posted by Dwizzo View Post
    Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"
    Haha, I'm sure you'll find one that tastes good.
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    Thanks for stopping by. I've been checking out your log on the forvm, looks good.
    Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Ahh, I see.. I have been doing upper/lower before, so this is lot kinder to the legs and lets me do more cardio, since I've literally halved my leg work.. heh, yeah still leg/back is a frkn killer for sure.
    Yeah, I guess I need to man up!
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    Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...
    I obviously didn't mean that the quality/effectiveness would be "diluted", just that the overwhelming (for me) sweet flavor was diluted to a concentration that I enjoyed with the addition of ~10 more oz of water.
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...
    OK... Just did my first torrent after a huge back and bi workout... (Sorry to hiijack your thread) Anyway, I agree that this stuff is too sweet... I did 1/2 the shake with the recommended 20oz of water, then decided to add another 10 oz of water... Then added another 10 oz of water... So a total of 40oz of water... I like the taste though... Just never had a sweet cherry shake like this... I mean, I can drink NO Shotgun like it's nothing, so that says a lot about my taste buds

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    Originally Posted by Dwizzo View Post
    OK... Just did my first torrent after a huge back and bi workout... (Sorry to hiijack your thread) Anyway, I agree that this stuff is too sweet... I did 1/2 the shake with the recommended 20oz of water, then decided to add another 10 oz of water... Then added another 10 oz of water... So a total of 40oz of water... I like the taste though... Just never had a sweet cherry shake like this... I mean, I can drink NO Shotgun like it's nothing, so that says a lot about my taste buds

    Universal Rep: Why did you guys make this product so sweet? I assume you use test groups to determine the best flavor, but this seems so sweet compared to other products... Just curious...
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    1. Don't worry about the hijack, always happy to help.
    2. You're going to want to drink a full serving (3 scoops) post workout.
    3. It's sweet because there are ~26 g of dextrose and also some maltodextrin in it (I deduced from reading the label). Those two compounds are great for you PWO but are obviously sweet as hell.
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    Originally Posted by SFriday425 View Post
    Three things:

    1. Don't worry about the hijack, always happy to help.
    2. You're going to want to drink a full serving (3 scoops) post workout.
    3. It's sweet because there are ~26 g of dextrose and also some maltodextrin in it (I deduced from reading the label). Those two compounds are great for you PWO but are obviously sweet as hell.
    Yup, I did 3 heaping scoops with 40oz water... (Had to piss 3 times after)

    BTW, am I reading this correct, that 3 scoops is 20g of protein? Doesn't seem like enough if that's the case... I think I might want to supplement it with another 20g of whey... Thoughts?
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    Day 5: Legs/Back/Biceps
    Thursday, May 17 2007


    Legs/Back/Biceps:

    Squats
    135x12 (warm-up)
    225x10
    225x8
    245x4

    Romanian Deadlift
    185x10
    195x10
    195x6

    Overhand mid grip pullups
    10x
    7x
    6x

    Cable row w/triangle
    135x10
    150x8
    165x5

    DB lunges w/35s
    7x
    6x
    6x

    Overhand mid grip pullups
    8x
    5x

    Bent db rows
    80x10
    80x10

    Db curls
    35x7
    35x6
    35x5

    Overhead cable curl
    5x8
    5x8
    5x6

    Comments:
    I had a pretty solid workout today. I concentrated on perfect form on squats and DLs so although the weight didn't increase much, I worked the wheels harder on those two exercises compared to last week. I felt strong and had decent endurance. I was really feeling the workout with some of my favorite lifts: pull-ups, squats, dls, and lunges. Also, my focus was right on throughout the workout. I had the "I'll do just one more exercise before I leave" compared to the "I'll skip that last set and go home" mentality.

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