Is it just me or is my friend a complete idiot?

**user1265412089** · 05-10-2007, 08:22 AM

My mate right, reckons it's better to do.. say 100 reps of 10kg curls than a weight you can only handle for ten reps and lifting the weight for ten reps.. I try to explain the effect of him overtraining his muscles.. but does he listen? No!

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:25 AM

it depends what your going for. Doing the higher weight with the lower reps will help you gtet stronger. BUt the 100 reps will give you a bigger more defined look and will also increase your muscular endurance

**Toffee Nose** · 05-10-2007, 08:27 AM

it isn't overtraining.. research the actual difference between his training and yours and show him - sounds like you don't know yourself

BUt the 100 reps will give you a bigger more defined look

i hope you are joking?

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:28 AM

actually im not,

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

it depends what your going for. Doing the higher weight with the lower reps will help you gtet stronger. BUt the 100 reps will give you a bigger more defined look and will also increase your muscular endurance

Wtf? 100 reps wont make you bigger im pretty sure of that, maybe some noob gains like everyone gets. Doing 10 reps of a weight which you can barely do 8 reps of, will tear the muscle and it will grow bigger and stronger. Lots of reps is just for toning a muscle it wont get bigger

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:32 AM

dude, i go to school for this ****, dont tell me im wrong

**user1265412089** · 05-10-2007, 08:33 AM

It also doesn't help that he's a bit fat and because his arms are 2' bigger than mine.. Not defined at all.. He guesses he must be doing something right.. He also refuses to do military press because it's boring.. And the only shoulder exercise he does is lateral raises with 3 kg dumbbells for about 70 reps, because he finds them fun.

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

dude, i go to school for this ****, dont tell me im wrong

100 reps will only give you slight noob gains and tone up the muscles, go to another school. Im sorry but I negged you for bad advice.

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:35 AM

your 16 and weigh 140 pounds. Where are you to tellme im wrong

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

your 16 and weigh 140 pounds. Where are you to tellme im wrong

Just because I weigh 140 doesnt mean I dont know whats right and whats wrong. I used to be a frickin noob in February doing a bench press for 35 reps and I was wandering why I wasnt growing. I came to this forum and I was TOLD to lower the reps and to my surprise I GREW. 130-140 in 3 months.

Please can someone back me up and tell this guy that 100 reps will only give you slight noob gains and it will only tone up your muscles.

**user1265412089** · 05-10-2007, 08:39 AM

My bad, i thought it would do nothing but decrease muscle size

**tomterp** · 05-10-2007, 08:39 AM

lol funny thread nedded wth -2 sucks complete rep kill but yea he is right lower weight higher reps = bigger , higher weight lower reps = stronger

thats why bodybuilders do sets of 10 or 12

**user178944** · 05-10-2007, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Toffee Nose

it isn't overtraining.. research the actual difference between his training and yours and show him - sounds like you don't know yourself

i hope you are joking?

X2...and on the "i hope you ar joking?" which is in reference tio the post above that is a good example of the advice in this section goin down hill.

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:41 AM

thank you tom. Reps given. SAT least someone else knows what they are talking about. Someone that weighs a decent amount

**tomterp** · 05-10-2007, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by lancepimpdurmom

this section goin down hill.

i agree crappy noob questions no oncer why the teen section is dieing oh well hopefully it will be what it once was . i'm reppin you .

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by tomterp

lol funny thread nedded wth -2 sucks complete rep kill but yea he is right lower weight higher reps = bigger , higher weight lower reps = stronger

thats why bodybuilders do sets of 10 or 12

Thank you.. I didnt want to start an arguement but we dont want noobs coming on this forum thinking, "hey ill do 100 reps and get huge"

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:43 AM

I honestly dont think if you weigh 140 pounds, you should be the one giving advice at all. And i especially think that when you weigh that little, you shouldnt have the rigt to argue with someone bigger and stronger than you are.

**tomterp** · 05-10-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

thank you tom. Reps given. SAT least someone else knows what they are talking about. Someone that weighs a decent amount

anytime and ive been lifting for about 3 1/2 years now theres alot of people who dont knowmuch of anything causing people to revieve the wrong advise etc.. trin your own way and do your own thing thats how you can be the best you can possibly be and dont let anyone like these ppl on here being you down

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jamie16

Thank you.. I didnt want to start an arguement but we dont want noobs coming on this forum thinking, "hey ill do 100 reps and get huge"

Jaime what are you talking about, he was backing me up. Read it again.

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

I honestly dont think if you weigh 140 pounds, you should be the one giving advice at all. And i especially think that when you weigh that little, you shouldnt have the rigt to argue with someone bigger and stronger than you are.

Wow this forum is a pretty ****ed up piece of wank.. Just out of interest can you tell us how many reps you do in each set plz?

If you're really doing 100 I think you should fist your ass.

**tomterp** · 05-10-2007, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jamie16

Thank you.. I didnt want to start an arguement but we dont want noobs coming on this forum thinking, "hey ill do 100 reps and get huge"

yea true i agree with that they need to do something called reading what people post especialy ones who actualy know what their talking bout (stickies , articles , fourm posts etc..)

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by tomterp

yea true i agree with that they need to do something called reading what people post especialy ones who actualy know what their talking bout (stickies , articles , fourm posts etc..)

Ok Im just confused now wth.. I was told on this forum by people that I should do 3 sets of 8-12..

I must admit ive never seen sets of 100 before but if thats what you do, then I might start doing 3 x 500

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:49 AM

It doesnt matter what i do. Thats the magic of bodybuilding, everyone is different, and they all do their own thing, giving them their own results. In 2 years ive upped my bench from 120 to 250. I can row 280 pounds. I can lat pulldown 270 pounds. and all this when i weogh only 165 pounds. AS much as you think i dont know what im talking about i actually do. I go to college to become a personal trainer and i have plenty of personal experience. SO i thiink im going to stick withm my routine and my own opinion.

**Kanji4488** · 05-10-2007, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

I honestly dont think if you weigh 140 pounds, you should be the one giving advice at all. And i especially think that when you weigh that little, you shouldnt have the rigt to argue with someone bigger and stronger than you are.

i weigh 175. you are wrong. throwing up like 10 pound dumbels 100 times will overtrain the muscles. youll get gains but theill be noob gains. doing light weight high reps applies to mabey 15-20 reps with light weight, no more then that. on a side note, if the kid does this he wont get strong and after the noob gains he wont have a foundation to build upon

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Jpcbadboy16

It doesnt matter what i do. Thats the magic of bodybuilding, everyone is different, and they all do their own thing, giving them their own results. In 2 years ive upped my bench from 120 to 250. I can row 280 pounds. I can lat pulldown 270 pounds. and all this when i weogh only 165 pounds. AS much as you think i dont know what im talking about i actually do. I go to college to become a personal trainer and i have plenty of personal experience. SO i thiink im going to stick withm my routine and my own opinion.

Fair enough but im just still stunned how two people AGREE that 100 reps is the right thing to do.. Ok maybe it will get you stronger thats pretty obvious.. But bigger? I dont get how two people who have been on this forum for a while say that 100 reps is the right thing to do to get big?

Lets just forget it then ..

**user1265412089** · 05-10-2007, 08:53 AM

Finally, something to do with the thread that doesn't make me look like an idiot

**Jamie16** · 05-10-2007, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kanji4488

i weigh 175. you are wrong. throwing up like 10 pound dumbels 100 times will overtrain the muscles. youll get gains but theill be noob gains. doing light weight high reps applies to mabey 15-20 reps with light weight, no more then that. on a side note, if the kid does this he wont get strong and after the noob gains he wont have a foundation to build upon

Woooooooooooooo. Sorry had to say that, nice.

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:54 AM

whoa whoa whoa.....nobody said doing 100 reps will get you stronger. Where are people getting this idea. The arguement started because i said doing 100 reps will give you a "bigger more defined look" and thats what people agree on. It is a know fact that to gain strength, higher weight and less reps is the ideal combination.

**Jpcbadboy16** · 05-10-2007, 08:59 AM

any other wise ass remarks?

**_Mazza_** · 05-10-2007, 08:59 AM

WOAHHHHH

I know I'm only a noob to this but

< 6 reps = strength
7 - 14 reps = building muscle
15 - 30 reps = endurance

100 reps = you might as well go jogging because you'll just burn off fat.

JPCbadboy and Jamie16 are saying the same thing, but i think Jamie is thinking JPC thinks 100 reps will make someone massive, when he is just saying higher reps = more defined look.

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