The Evolution of Liberals

**lordofchaos** · 05-07-2007, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by MushMouth

You know, I can live with the hate-mongering. But its the inconsistency that get to me. Either be anti-intellectual or not. This "liberals are stupid non-thinkers" thing running at the same time as "liberals are effete socialist academics/scientists hoisting their one world anti-capitalist conspiracies (e.g. evolution and global warming) on the traditional Christian U.S.A" is annoying.

Pick a stereotype and stick with it, at least.

see. I see most of the socialist/comunists as being people who don't think things through so I don't see a problem with what I said. If anything, I see the people who are on the far left side seeing socialism/comunism as good as being people who base their descisions off of feeling rather than thinking (like the socialists calling themselves liberals who wrote the assault weapons ban in the Clinton era who admitted they didn't know anything about guns, and based their descisions on what to ban off what looked scary... way to base your policy off of an emotion instead of thought/logic/facts...)

**MediaDeit** · 05-07-2007, 11:15 AM

Has a Picture ever been more honest?

http://boortz.com/images/funny/democ...icial_seal.gif

well?

**lordofchaos** · 05-07-2007, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

Has a Picture ever been more honest?

http://boortz.com/images/funny/democ...icial_seal.gif

well?

nah, I think they do well with what they describe themselves as, a jackass that likes to cry/bray about everything while not being to bright...

Disclaimer: this poster does not think that all democrats or true liberals are unthinking jackasses, he does however believe that the socialists/comunists that have been mascarading as "liberals" even though they are way left of liberal are unthinking jackasses and feels that it is appropriate that they should flock to the democratic party that is represented by one...

**1dayIWillBeBig** · 05-07-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

Has a Picture ever been more honest?

http://boortz.com/images/funny/democ...icial_seal.gif

well?

About as honest as this: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/...seal_cuffs.jpg

**IraHays** · 05-07-2007, 11:22 AM

LOL at both "seals"

**Rambo26** · 05-07-2007, 11:24 AM

LOL thread made me laugh

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by IraHays

LOL at both "seals"

Yeah, both are pretty funny.

But for each liberal joke, a conservative joke is out there to match and vice versa.

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Experiment

Expect to see an "Evolution of Conservatives" soon from me.

'Evolution of Conservatives' . . . an oxymoron?

Then they try to cleverly outplay the OP by posting their own version of jokes....but jokes that are much more clever.

I am sorry, but a joke where someone thinks that humans were divided between liberals and conservatives from an early age (at least he is smarter than the typical republican who denies evolution!) is not at all funny. He then calles liberals 'girliemen' (lets ignore his poor spelling . . .), he then goes on to call liberal women very masculated, he probably means lesbians.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute
truth of this history

A conservataive this stupid is hard to come by.

Oh, and I hasten to add that even conservatives laugh at conservatives!
Yes, thats right, European conservatives like to make fun of American conservatives, hell, even the European facists, nazi's and commies like to make fun of you.

Disclaimer: this poster does not think that all democrats or true liberals are unthinking jackasses, he does however believe that the socialists/comunists that have been mascarading as "liberals" even though they are way left of liberal are unthinking jackasses and feels that it is appropriate that they should flock to the democratic party that is represented by one...

Finally some intelligence in this thread.

To be honest, I bet that most 'conservatives' don't really know what liberalism is.

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

To be honest, I bet that most 'conservatives' don't really know what liberalism is.

Sure I do......it's a mental disorder.

**PSMF** · 05-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

To be honest, I bet that most 'conservatives' don't really know what liberalism is.

Because their source of information are Bill O'rlly and Rush Lambah (Now a days Opinionest lol)

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 11:37 AM

I know that you've taken this thread way too seriously.

Yeah, Iits not as if the R/P section is for discussing serious things, is it? Oh, wait . . .

Sure I do......it's a mental disorder.

Thank you for proving my point.

**JuanDenver** · 05-07-2007, 11:43 AM

if we have learned anything from this thread, its that shaun1990 was not a hunter hahahhhahahaa

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by PSMF

Because their source of information are Bill O'rlly and Rush Lambah (Now a days Opinionest lol)

Write back when you learn how to spell so that I can read what you type.

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Yeah, Iits not as if the R/P section is for discussing serious things, is it? Oh, wait . . .

And it's still a joke thread.

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lothar

Write back when you learn how to spell so that I can read what you type.

Your English skills must be really lacking then, I noticed only two spelling error's; Opinionest and Lambah. If you could not have worked out that the former was meant to be 'opinionist' then I feel sorry for you (they are even pronounced the same way!), and 'Lambah' was obviously meant to be 'Limbaugh'.

And it's still a joke thread.

Originally Posted by the bit of text underneath the R/P section subforum link

Discuss these issues in their own special area!

Nowhere do I see 'jokes' there . . .

**IraHays** · 05-07-2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

To be honest, I bet that most 'conservatives' don't really know what liberalism is.

Says the self proclaimed nihilist....

**MediaDeit** · 05-07-2007, 11:58 AM

Shaun let me ask you something, do you believe I wrote the story?

Do you think the people who thought it was funny believe it is true?

If you answered "no" for both questions than WTF is the point of your crying, moaning, and bitching? And if you answered "yes" than you trully are a complete and utter idiot.......of course that would be my opinion.

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

Shaun let me ask you something, do you believe I wrote the story?

I dont know, nor care.

Says the self proclaimed nihilist....

Yes . . . and?

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Your English skills must be really lacking then, I noticed only two spelling error's; Opinionest and Lambah. If you could not have worked out that the former was meant to be 'opinionist' then I feel sorry for you (they are even pronounced the same way!), and 'Lambah' was obviously meant to be 'Limbaugh'.

Nowhere do I see 'jokes' there . . .

Jesus...you're way way off....on both parts!

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

I dont know, nor care.

LOL....you should campaign with John Kerry!!!

**MediaDeit** · 05-07-2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Nowhere do I see 'jokes' there . . .

Black and white with no grey area, is that how you see the world?

Go cry moan and bitch to a mod on how offended you are.

**IraHays** · 05-07-2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Yes . . . and?

I consider anyone who claims to be a nihilist to either not know what it means or has a mental disorder.

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by IraHays

I consider anyone who claims to be a nihilist to either not know what it means or has a mental disorder.

Elaborate.

**IraHays** · 05-07-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Elaborate.

Rejection of morals, believing that humans are worthless, wanting the destruction of authority, ect. Baiscally a total rejection of reason.

I think anyone that has this type of belief system crazy.

**PSMF** · 05-07-2007, 12:13 PM

Republicans in this thread
http://gratisnet.com/images/elephantdung.jpg

**lordofchaos** · 05-07-2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

Elaborate.

well, seeing as true nihilist's believe that there is no real truth or morals, and that secular ethics are impossible, they believe that life is pointless and that no act is in and of itself capable of being preffered over any other.

Nihilism is also a belief that is rairly overtly chosen by an individual because if you follow it strictly, as in believe that life has no purpose, no morality, and no ethics, then you truely believe that there is no right or wrong, which this thread has pointed out to me atleast is not one of the beliefs you hold as you feel it is wrong to post jokes in here, and you feel it is wrong to make sweepig generalizations of things. Not to mention a true nihilist wouldn't really be a liberal or believe in human rights, as a true nihilist doesn't believe in anything, which is why Nietzsche said that it would destroy all convictions and lead to the biggest crisis in human history..

but that is just me...

**Shaun1990** · 05-07-2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by IraHays

Rejection of morals,

This is false, we do not 'reject' conventional morals, we only believe that they dont exist, nothing is universally right or wrong, morallity depends on the enviroment. Thus we come to the conclusion that universal morals simply do not exist. Logical? Yes, I think so.

believing that humans are worthless

Again, false, we only believe that what we do has no meaning, that what ever we do makes no difference on the grand scheme of things.

, wanting the destruction of authority, ect.

False - again. We only think that authority should be questioned, not destoryed.

Baiscally a total rejection of reason.

You are good at coming to conclusions by missing out certain things.

I think anyone that has this type of belief system crazy.

Good. I think anyone that believes in universal morals is crazy, anyone who blindly accepts all authority is crazy, anyone who thinks what we do makes a big difference is crazy, anyone who thinks that life has meaning is crazy.

**IraHays** · 05-07-2007, 12:20 PM

Like I said, you don't know what a nihilist is.

**Lothar** · 05-07-2007, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

This is false, we do not 'reject' conventional morals, we only believe that they dont exist, nothing is universally right or wrong, morallity depends on the enviroment. Thus we come to the conclusion that universal morals simply do not exist. Logical? Yes, I think so.

Again, false, we only believe that what we do has no meaning, that what ever we do makes no difference on the grand scheme of things.

False - again. We only think that authority should be questioned, not destoryed.

You are good at coming to conclusions by missing out certain things.

Good. I think anyone that believes in universal morals is crazy, anyone who blindly accepts all authority is crazy, anyone who thinks what we do makes a big difference is crazy, anyone who thinks that life has meaning is crazy.

Hey, I thought you didn't like jokes...

**lordofchaos** · 05-07-2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun1990

This is false, we do not 'reject' conventional morals, we only believe that they dont exist, nothing is universally right or wrong, morallity depends on the enviroment. Thus we come to the conclusion that universal morals simply do not exist. Logical? Yes, I think so.

Again, false, we only believe that what we do has no meaning, that what ever we do makes no difference on the grand scheme of things.

False - again. We only think that authority should be questioned, not destoryed.

You are good at coming to conclusions by missing out certain things.

Good. I think anyone that believes in universal morals is crazy, anyone who blindly accepts all authority is crazy, anyone who thinks what we do makes a big difference is crazy, anyone who thinks that life has meaning is crazy.

hmm... exactly where did you get your tenets of nihilsm from as Nietzshe disagrees with you...
"Every belief, every considering something-true, is necessarily false because there is simply no true world" (Nietzsche in Will to Power)
"Nihilism is . . . not only the belief that everything deserves to perish; but one actually puts one's shoulder to the plough; one destroys" (Will to Power).
he also believed that Nihilism would bring on the worst crisis in the history of mankind, which would possibly end our species, but thought that was a good thing as out of the crisis mankind might see the truth
I praise, I do not reproach, [nihilism's] arrival. I believe it is one of the greatest crises, a moment of the deepest self-reflection of humanity. Whether man recovers from it, whether he becomes master of this crisis, is a question of his strength. It is possible. . . . (Complete Works Vol. 13)

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