It does seem very promising. I think your dosing would be perfect. I would switch it around for mine since I only like working out at night, but basically the same in reverse. When I start my cut, I will be picking a thermogenic to stack and I will be logging my process with it. I plan to cut until I reach my goal of 8% BMI.
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12-19-2008, 11:15 AM #2461kingjameskjf @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
My contest prep/workout journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115012401&page=4
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12-20-2008, 07:58 AM #2466
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Fat Burners...
Hi - I am 6'0, 240lbs with 29% bodyfat. Obviously I am looking to shed some poundage and fat!
I have a good diet/weight training program down, but would like some recommendations for a good fat burner. I have been looking at Isatori's MX-LS7 and VPX Meltdown.
Any information would be greatly appreciated - have a big conference in Cancun in June of 2009 and want to look my best!!!!
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The weight should come off pretty fast at your size. I have used Meltdown and wasn't really impressed, but then again my diet and work out wasn't nearly as hardcore as it is today. MX-LS7, never heard of that.
Just hit the cardio, do weight training and make SURE your diet's in check. I have found good results with REDuction, MAN Scorch, Tetrazene Extreme, Lipo6X and a few others. Most are just caffenie and some other things in there... just find one that seems it is good and what you're looking for and go from there. What works for one person might not work for you. It sucks and it sometimes can be costly, but once you find that thing that works for you it's worth every penny.
*Smacks Forhead* Duh. Never heard of FASTIN, but I am fasting today nonetheless.
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12-20-2008, 11:03 AM #2470
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fat burners
I am a wrestler and have been cutting weight for what seems to be forever. I have tried a bunch of fat burners including Yellow Bullet, REDuction, Hydroxicut Hardcore, and now venom hyperdrive. Bullet was the best for fat loss,it jumpstarts your heart rate and i lost fat quickly.Appitite controll was also great while on it. I did notice some muscle loss, but nothing that cant be gained during bulking season. I think it would work great precontest or before your headin to the shore to mak with the ladies.
REDuction sucked. I use almost only controlled labs products and this is def the worst of their line.
Hardcore is also terrible, expecially if you are trying to do cardio/lifting. You feel like ****, and it made me want to puke, keep in mind i have a high tolerance to caffine.
Venom has been good. Great for appetite suppression, your body adabts quickly though. i actually just started, so i will keep you updated.
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Yea. Well my diet is solid. I'm a certified personal trainer with the NSCA. I eat 5 to 6 meals a day, mostly protein and slow digesting carbs. I supplement with whey protein after workouts which are usually 5 days a week when i'm out of season. On my leg days i do double sessions, quads in the mourn, everything else at night. 6 hour rest in between.
My strength is pretty good. I d-lift 510 on my last set for about 6. Bench is around 260 for the same reps and squat about 365. I usually pyramid sets and incorportate intensity techs such as supersets and drop sets. My body fat is about 10 percent with my weight being 200lbs, maybe less now that i am in season.
I can give u a sample of a week if you would like.
Cardio wise i usually wrestle and run. My runs are an average of 3 miles maybe 3 times a week. If i go more days I'm doing short distance. It really depends on how i am feeling.
I think the only good thing about reduction is the pm pill. I think a lot of people don't get the 8 hours of sleep needed and that pill may help some. As far as energy or diet suppression i didn't notice it. I have good discipline with my diet and maybe had too high hopes for the product.
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I would not take them both together as they both contain stims.
Here is feedback on Animal Cuts:
http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=317Free Agent
Instagram.com/naturalguy2.0
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12-21-2008, 07:13 AM #2481
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animal cuts
my roommate used animal cuts and had good results. He did say he lost a bit of water weight too cause he was pissing all the time. He recommended the product to me, but i hate taking all those damn pills after trying animal pack. So no personal experience here with the animal cuts, but Universal is usuallly pretty solid.
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12-22-2008, 08:25 AM #2489
what is best product for women wanting to lean out
Hello:
I have been a lurker on bb.com for a few months now.
I am 5'7", 162 lbs. From Sept to Dec I lost 27lbs and lots of inches mainly waist, hips and chest. My thighs started at 24" and they are still 24"...go figure.
I am looking to lean out some more especially in my lower body. I know you cant spot reduce, but if I could shed some more and then shape tone with my existing cardio, calistenics (sp?) and weight traning. I'd be satisfied.
What are the best suppliments out there.
I should tell you I am pretty stimulant resistant. In the past I have taken phentermine, Hydrocycut, Xenedrine EFX, trimspa and some herbal my acupuncturist recommended called Essence 999, works likje phentermine. Truthfully the best results I ever got were off of Xenedrine when it had ephedra, but those days are over. so I need suggestions
the upside is for the past 21 days I did a fruit and veggie fast/detox with my church so, I am thinking if I take a suppliment now I should get good results. Not to mention that fruits tend to make me retain weight, so dropping them will help out as well.
Any/All suggestions and tips are welcome
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12-22-2008, 09:19 AM #2490
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I have been researching and asking others as well. The Lipo 6 liquid caps seems to be popping up a lot.
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