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12-17-2008, 06:09 AM #2431
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12-17-2008, 06:43 AM #2432
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Bodybuilding.com sells it. It's the end result of DHEA. It won't spike your testosterone or estrogen like DHEA and doesn't have the side effects.
It's the "mother" gland that keeps you young in your body and helps you in a lot of things. I was reading about it, just haven't heard anything from people...
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12-17-2008, 09:29 AM #2433
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12-17-2008, 09:46 AM #2434
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12-17-2008, 10:27 AM #2435
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Hey DJIN, you HAVE to be the cornucopia of supplements that you've tried!! Looking good, I actually see definition in the arms and the lats. Boy, you've come a long way!! Why not try the 7-Keto stacked with some of the other stuff you have used..... Where's the Controlled Labs guy when you need to ask a question?
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12-17-2008, 11:45 AM #2436
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I'm trying. It's not over yet. This is just another phase. This is still so new to me and so far I think I've been doing a pretty awesome job.
I have tried a lot of supplements. I'm think about 7-Keto, CLA, L-carnitine and my protein... perhaps even a thermo to help get all that extra fat off my body.
It's nice too also see some definition. A lot of work and dedication. Even when I didn't want to work out, I got up and just went. WHen I was done I felt A LOT better. It's my new drug I'm hooked on.
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12-17-2008, 01:25 PM #2437
Which of the 3?
SO I just want to drop my fat percentage like crazy. Im not a builder, I just want to maintain lean muscle mass. Dont want to bulk up or get big.
Whats the best fat burner out of the three:
Hydroxycut - Lipo6 - REDuction
Im debating between the three. I have read a lot of diffrent things on all three and Im really just undecided.
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12-17-2008, 10:33 PM #2438
Is REDuction safe? I mean PEA and GABA (a way to treat the comedown off of alcohol abuse) are mood effectors and the last thing I want is to become hooked on a mood stabilizer...
I would love to try it after hearing so much good about it, but did it mess anyone up after going off of it, like sad or depressed?
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12-18-2008, 09:16 AM #2439
it was discontinued, we now have REDuction, a much better formula
right here. what is the question?
you have done amazingly well, kudos to you sir
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12-18-2008, 09:52 AM #2440
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12-18-2008, 09:54 AM #2441
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12-18-2008, 09:55 AM #2442
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5' and 128lbs. Hmmm. I would say any would work well, but you can't lose weight or get firm if your diet is garbage.
If you eat clean and work out you can achieve your goals. You also can work out with weights and not get big. A lot of women (I'm assuming you're a women from your height and weight) think if they pick a weight up it will make them massive, this couldn't be any more false.
I would start with cardio and light weights to help get your metabolism in high gear. I am not a fan of MuscleTech (they make Hydroxycut) because of the hype and price they think they can charge people. I have had good results with Lipo6 and REDuction. Lipo6 has guggle in it, which some people think it's the worse thing ever made... It's not bad for a women (unless you're a super tiny man)... and REDuction is a 24 hour 'mild' stimulant that will give you a steady flow of energy through the day, and the PM formula will help you fall a sleep and still keep your metabolism in gear.
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12-18-2008, 11:22 AM #2443
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post261402171
Well here is my other post just so I dont have to repeat....but thats for the work out advice in any other situation. I am very educated onthe work out science as much as I have been through and been educate about it now.
I just have never tried any fat burning stimulants before and I am thinking now may be al I have left....
Anywho - I will have to try this REDuction. I went into buy Lipo6 but I was told that the womens formula (HydroxycutMax) was much more raved about than Lipo6...and it was on sale and cheaper than the Lipo6 so I figured they obviously werent just trying to make me spend more money gearing me towards the cheaper one.....he said that was the feedback he got from other consumers. After that is over I may have to try that though so thanks....
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12-18-2008, 02:37 PM #2444
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12-18-2008, 05:44 PM #2445
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weight loss
I am 6 ft 217 lbs and 24 yrs old. I am looking for a way to cut fat especially in the abs area. I am unsure of where to start supplements wise. I have heard alot about reduction, lipo 6x and animals cuts. Which is best to work with and please I am not just looking for a simple, THEY ARE ALL GOOD type of answer. Might it be possible to combine any of them? I am looking to cut fat and put on muscle, but not bulky.
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12-18-2008, 06:36 PM #2446
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12-18-2008, 08:33 PM #2447
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12-19-2008, 02:38 AM #2448
yeah and 2 scoops of no-xplode pre workout as well.
I get up at 5am
have a super-powered-protein shake
drive to work and drink 2 coffees over breakfast
then have hydroxycut an hour later bout 9am
then have lunch at 12pm
followed by hydroxycut an hour later
then have 2 scoops of no xplode at 345pm
then train for a couple of hours from 430pm till 630
the caffeine doesn't really react with me.
I drink coffee more because I like it.
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12-19-2008, 06:14 AM #2449
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Well, here's the genitics of men. Their stomach and chest are the last to let go. To actually get abs, I heard you need a decently low bodyfat%. I think it was something like 13% or something. I could be mistaken with my memory.
I would add muscle first (I am doing that, but already lost 70lbs) and then I'm going to cut. Since muscle DOES burn more calories then fat the excess should come off a lot easier.
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12-19-2008, 08:13 AM #2450
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12-19-2008, 09:31 AM #2451
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12-19-2008, 09:47 AM #2452
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12-19-2008, 09:51 AM #2453
Ah. Well, I just finished a harsh bulk about 6 weeks ago. I will be getting bloodwork done soon and if my liver values are back to normal then the white willow will be ok. If it's not quite there (it was 7 time the normal range!) then I'll stay away. Thanks for the info bro.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115012401&page=4
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12-19-2008, 09:55 AM #2454
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12-19-2008, 10:09 AM #2455
To assess the effectiveness of my PCT and to ensure my body returns to homeostasis. I was on an 8 week PH cycle with 4 weeks being a harsh methyl. I logged it well and you can view my PCT outline and my post cycle/pre-pct bloodwork on page 5: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=110503001
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My contest prep/workout journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115012401&page=4
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12-19-2008, 10:11 AM #2456
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12-19-2008, 10:29 AM #2457
No, I think you're thinking of AAS. PH is just pro-hormones/designer supplements. This is your basic Haldrol, Havco, Bold, Pheraplex, Superdrol, ect. These are orals and are completely legal. HGH is your Human Growth Hormone. There are some that are illegal but there are other supplements that have HGH causing properties such as GABA (Gamma-Amino-Butric-Acid), which can be beneficial. AAS are your injectibles like Trenbolone and Deca Durabolin. Those are the illegal stuff. Oral PH/DS can be harsh on your system particularly if it is methylated. Then you have to worry about if it aromatizes, what it breaks down into, ect. Thus, much research is need to make sure you have a proper pct (post cyle therapy) in order to address all possible concerns. The best way to see if your pct worked is with pre and post pct bloodwork.
kingjameskjf @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115012401&page=4
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12-19-2008, 10:42 AM #2458
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Understood. I've taken GABA before. Do you know anything about 7-Keto? I've been thinking about taking NOW 7-Keto.
It is the end result of DHEA and doesn't spike your estrogen or testosterone (so they claim). It seems it would be promissing, but I'm not too sure about it. You seem well knowledged in this field.
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12-19-2008, 11:06 AM #2459
7-keto is works by activating thermogenic enzymes. Basically, it helps boost metabolism and the burning of calories. I've also read claims that statd that it inhibits fat storage in the body. It seems to be a good product to add to a cut.
Pharmacokinetic data reveals that based on a single 100-mg dose, 7-Keto peaks in concentration in plasma after around two hours and then returns back to baseline concentrations after around five to six hours. So it should be taken a couple of hours before exercise which will allow your body to benefit from the peak thermogenic effects. The most common dosing that others seem to find effective is two 100 mg caps a day.
There have been many studies on this, including human studies and they show 7-Keto to be safe for weightloss and effective. I think that's pretty promising and will likely use some in my cut.kingjameskjf @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
My contest prep/workout journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115012401&page=4
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12-19-2008, 11:09 AM #2460
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