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    Well, I found myself a source for Borage oil @ 50$ for a 50 day supply (dosing at 7.5 grams/day).

    As soon as I see a lab test report or certification of purity, im going to buy some and log it

    Stay tuned

    EDIT: anyone know what the macros for this stuff would be? Since its oil ill take it 1g of fat per gram of oil?
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    EDIT: anyone know what the macros for this stuff would be? Since its oil ill take it 1g of fat per gram of oil?
    ^^^^ yes
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    ^^^^ yes

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    Originally Posted by The Brotherhood View Post
    Well, I found myself a source for Borage oil @ 50$ for a 50 day supply (dosing at 7.5 grams/day).

    As soon as I see a lab test report or certification of purity, im going to buy some and log it

    Stay tuned

    EDIT: anyone know what the macros for this stuff would be? Since its oil ill take it 1g of fat per gram of oil?
    that's awesome bro, bump this thread if/when you start your log
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    Originally Posted by The Brotherhood View Post
    Well, I found myself a source for Borage oil @ 50$ for a 50 day supply (dosing at 7.5 grams/day).

    As soon as I see a lab test report or certification of purity, im going to buy some and log it

    Stay tuned

    EDIT: anyone know what the macros for this stuff would be? Since its oil ill take it 1g of fat per gram of oil?
    Watch your fish oil intake then

    Barham JB, Edens MB, Fonteh AN, Johnson MM, Easter L, Chilton FH. Addition of eicosapentaenoic acid to gamma-linolenic acid-supplemented diets prevents serum arachidonic acid accumulation in humans. J Nutr . 2000;130(8):1925-1931.

    Not only will you have to deal with the long-standing question of fish oil + AA, but the fish oil may even prevent the borage from helping
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    Originally Posted by sumguy View Post
    Watch your fish oil intake then

    Barham JB, Edens MB, Fonteh AN, Johnson MM, Easter L, Chilton FH. Addition of eicosapentaenoic acid to gamma-linolenic acid-supplemented diets prevents serum arachidonic acid accumulation in humans. J Nutr . 2000;130(8):1925-1931.

    Not only will you have to deal with the long-standing question of fish oil + AA, but the fish oil may even prevent the borage from helping
    Will do. One thing is that I don't know if ill know if its working. Ive been dieting for over a year, I just had a 3 week deload, and I will finally be training with a surplus of calories. Im bound to make significant strength and muscle gains anyway. Ill also be restarting creatine, glycergrow, WMS, bulk lecuine megadose....How will I know if the AA is working?
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    Originally Posted by The Brotherhood View Post
    Will do. One thing is that I don't know if ill know if its working. Ive been dieting for over a year, I just had a 3 week deload, and I will finally be training with a surplus of calories. Im bound to make significant strength and muscle gains anyway. Ill also be restarting creatine, glycergrow, WMS, bulk lecuine megadose....How will I know if the AA is working?
    aside from a blood test... probably won't

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    Originally Posted by tweaked17 View Post
    aside from a blood test... probably won't

    increased DOMS?

    Ill have that anyway from the 3 week deload. Im only in India for another two months so waiting isnt an option. Guess ill just use it and hope it works lol.
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    Originally Posted by The Brotherhood View Post
    One thing is that I don't know if ill know if its working. Ive been dieting for over a year, I just had a 3 week deload, and I will finally be training with a surplus of calories. Im bound to make significant strength and muscle gains anyway. Ill also be restarting creatine, glycergrow, WMS, bulk lecuine megadose....How will I know if the AA is working?
    Ah yes. A good question.... that I don't have an answer for. How do you know if X-Factor is working?

    For now, I would suggest holding off on the GLA cycle untill I check into a few things.

    I will update this thread with info reguarding this issue as it becomes available.... let me do a little research.
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    Ah yes. A good question.... that I don't have an answer for. How do you know if X-Factor is working?

    For now, I would suggest holding off on the GLA cycle untill I check into a few things.

    I will update this thread with info reguarding this issue as it becomes available.... let me do a little research.
    Im only here for another two months...If I dont do it now its not happening, and borage oil is probably more expensive in the states.
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    Originally Posted by sobelik View Post
    To everyone who PMd me or wants a PM about that 50 dollar Cycle of X-Factor, it is no longer applicable...sorry..... If you had read my post more carefully, I said I HAD.... Sorry guys
    umm I believe you said I have found it...

    No big deal, lol, thought I'd be a dick and point it out

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    Question: this product is hown to have an ash content of maximum 18%. What does that mean? Does it mean that the components that cannot be classified as protein, carb or fat make up 18% of this product? If so, what would be the implications and would this make it unsafe to eat?

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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    Ah yes. A good question.... that I don't have an answer for. How do you know if X-Factor is working?

    For now, I would suggest holding off on the GLA cycle untill I check into a few things.

    I will update this thread with info reguarding this issue as it becomes available.... let me do a little research.
    Did you find any more information on this?
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    For now, I would suggest holding off on the GLA cycle untill I check into a few things.

    I will update this thread with info reguarding this issue as it becomes available.... let me do a little research.
    Sorry folks.... I did a little research and forgot to post it up.

    Even though the supplementation of GLA significantly up-regulates plasma AA concentrations, IMO.... there would be direct competition between GLA and AA for incorporation into membrane phospholipids, thereby reducing the amount of AA available for 2-series prostaglandin synthesis. Also, when DGLA is released via phospholipase A2, DGLA competes with AA for the COX and LOX enzymes.

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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    Sorry folks.... I did a little research and forgot to post it up.

    Even though the supplementation of GLA significantly up-regulates plasma AA concentrations, IMO.... there would be direct competition between GLA and AA for incorporation into membrane phospholipids, thereby reducing the amount of AA available for 2-series prostaglandin synthesis. Also, when DGLA is released via phospholipase A2, DGLA competes with AA for the COX and LOX enzymes.
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    Bump.
    Thanks for the info!

    Sorry for not fully understanding, but does this mean it would have NO benefit, or just less than initially thought. I'm not planning on employing it, just interested in the science.
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    Originally Posted by redhawk76 View Post
    Thanks for the info!

    Sorry for not fully understanding, but does this mean it would have NO benefit, or just less than initially thought. I'm not planning on employing it, just interested in the science.
    From a physiological standpoint, it could go either way.

    The substances will be in competition with each other, which means that the pathway for AA to complete it's inflammatory response, could just as easily be inhibited.... rather than enhanced by GLA/DGLA.
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    umm I believe you said I have found it...

    No big deal, lol, thought I'd be a dick and point it out

    What did you think of X-factor sobe?
    I liked XF alot actually, did two cycles and gained a good bit of strength and size.. I wish I logged it..
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    Originally Posted by sobelik View Post
    I liked XF alot actually, did two cycles and gained a good bit of strength and size.. I wish I logged it..
    Good to hear. I am awaiting my bottles in the mail as we speak.
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    Originally Posted by adidamps2 View Post
    eat egg yolks ~70mg per.
    12 yolks=~ 850mg
    not to shabby
    i am seeing the same results/side effects from eatting 4-12 whole eggs (raw and or cooked) ED as X-Factor claims..

    if you dont mind high fat diets (like keto) this is an exellent way to get AA.
    for those of you with a strong stomach try eatting 12 whole raw eggs for a week and see what happens and if you see the same results that X-factor claims.


    NOTE: i am in no way nocking X-factor...
    i think its a great product..but if you can get your AA from Egg yolk do it..if not take this for the AA effects it will provide.
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    Originally Posted by <7% View Post
    Check out this:

    http://www.aquafauna.com/Profiles-Al...ate%20Analysis

    it is basically dried algae (Schizochytrium Algae to be more specific) with nothing added to it. 37% of the Fatty Acids in this product are Arachidonic Acid.

    The only thing it is made to be fed to fish, not for humans. However, people do eat other species of dried algae and I was wondering if this would be safe to eat...

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    you can buy bulk xfactor 50 day supply for $35...would be interesting to watch someone try this though.
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    Originally Posted by Sgt T-Man View Post
    you can buy bulk xfactor 50 day supply for $35...would be interesting to watch someone try this though.
    People have been buying it in bulk for a long while now, just not at that cost.
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    Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    People have been buying it in bulk for a long while now, just not at that cost.
    Care to say where beside the other planet ? They're sold out

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