WTF? I just read that Dexter Jackson beat Jay Cutler.

[dave22]

Is this the end for Cutler? Is this the start of a grand career for Dexter? Man, what's next?

But here's a funny question, when Ronnie retires, who will inherit his throne? King Kamali, 2 years ago said he would. Yeah, we all saw what happened with him.

I personally believe that if Cutler trained for the next 2 years, no contests, and put on like 10-12 pounds of actual lean muscle mass, he could be Mr. Olympia. But that's probably not going to happen, he'll do the Ironman, then the Arnold Classic, then who knows what.

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by dave22
Is this the end for Cutler? Is this the start of a grand career for Dexter?

I sure hope so.

[dave22]

Originally posted by Mighty Mikey G
I sure hope so.

So you want to see Cutler knocked down a peg?

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by dave22
So you want to see Cutler knocked down a peg?

I hate his physique.

[themainman]

Originally posted by dave22
Is this the end for Cutler? Is this the start of a grand career for Dexter? Man, what's next?

But here's a funny question, when Ronnie retires, who will inherit his throne? King Kamali, 2 years ago said he would. Yeah, we all saw what happened with him.

I personally believe that if Cutler trained for the next 2 years, no contests, and put on like 10-12 pounds of actual lean muscle mass, he could be Mr. Olympia. But that's probably not going to happen, he'll do the Ironman, then the Arnold Classic, then who knows what.

Where did you read this and what contest?

[dave22]

Originally posted by themainman
Where did you read this and what contest?

GNC show of strength. read it on this web site.

[Xtreme4Life]

Originally posted by dave22
Is this the end for Cutler? Is this the start of a grand career for Dexter? Man, what's next?

It's definitely not the end for Cutler. Nowhere close.

The Blade and Jay Cutler are two different type of bodybuilders. They both excel in their own departments, BUT, IMO, if Jay's conditioning is on the money Dexter simply can't take him. Dexter was on for both the O and the SOS and Jay was a little off for both. Probably due to too many shows this year for Jay.

Dexter has improved but Jay still has too much mass for him. It should be interesting to see how they improve next year.

[BPP]

runs to look

[JakeSTSM]

Show of Strength results:

1 Dexter Jackson USA
2 Jay Cutler USA
3 Kevin Levrone USA
4 Dennis James USA
5 Gunter Sclierkamp Germany
6 Darrem Charles Trinidad
7 Chris Cormier USA
8 Melvin Anthony USA
9 Toney Freeman USA
10 Johnnie Jackson USA
11 George Farah USA
12 Rodney St. Cloud USA
13 Aaron Maddron USA
14 Stan McCrary USA
15 Claude Groulx Canada

[drewbie 51]

From the pictures its very tough to say. Just depends on what your looking for I guess, although you cant be one of those *******s who just looks from one point of view. dexter is an absolute freak of nature and other than his calves, he does not have a weak point. Jay also dosnt have a weak point and is much bigger than dester, but his waist is also much bigger which throws off his v taper. If I was a judge I probably couldnt have made a choice. In general I think jay has dex just because of sheer mass, butt tonight dex's legs were right their with jays and his back detail was amazing and blew jay away so Im completely understand the judging

[xx0725]

Damn, my boy didn't look so hot... On a good day he could have taken the contest.

[omariok2]

Originally posted by dave22

I personally believe that if Cutler trained for the next 2 years, no contests, and put on like 10-12 pounds of actual lean mass

take two years off to acheive that?! i think hed be dissapointed in himself if thats all he gained after taking one year off
ronnie gained 25 odd this last year so jay couldnt have been too far off that amount

[user34566548717114]

Ronnie is the ULTIMATE GENETIC FREAK, no one has close to his ability to build muscle, and he also has such a fast fast metabolism that he can cut down to virtually no body fat, in the Mr. Olympia pictures look at the undercuts in his double bicept front pose, I mean no one else had defination close to that.....

With his attitude and freak genetics, Ronnie is never going to lose untill he decides he wants to, not saying I like his body, but for what it takes to win the olympia he knows what to do

[Assassinator]

Originally posted by dvv
Ronnie is the ULTIMATE GENETIC FREAK, no one has close to his ability to build muscle, and he also has such a fast fast metabolism that he can cut down to virtually no body fat, in the Mr. Olympia pictures look at the undercuts in his double bicept front pose, I mean no one else had defination close to that.....

With his attitude and freak genetics, Ronnie is never going to lose untill he decides he wants to, not saying I like his body, but for what it takes to win the olympia he knows what to do

ya get a BUMP from me

[dave22]

Originally posted by omariok2
take two years off to acheive that?! i think hed be dissapointed in himself if thats all he gained after taking one year off
ronnie gained 25 odd this last year so jay couldnt have been too far off that amount

Ronnie probably gained like 6 pounds of pure muscle. He didn't gain 25 pounds of pure muscle.

If he did, you saying that if you took 25 pounds of steak, layed it on a table, that's how much he gained?

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by drewbie 51
Jay also dosnt have a weak point and is much bigger than dester, but his waist is also much bigger which throws off his v taper.

A big waist that throws off a V taper is a major weak point man.

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by dave22
Ronnie probably gained like 6 pounds of pure muscle. He didn't gain 25 pounds of pure muscle.

If he did, you saying that if you took 25 pounds of steak, layed it on a table, that's how much he gained?

Than the other 19 lbs that he gained was fat? Didn't Cormier say something about steak and muscle at the Olympia?

[qbanboy14]

gnc contest is a joke, i remember when Gunter Schlierkamp beat Ronnie Coleman last year

[omariok2]

Originally posted by dave22
Ronnie probably gained like 6 pounds of pure muscle. He didn't gain 25 pounds of pure muscle.

If he did, you saying that if you took 25 pounds of steak, layed it on a table, that's how much he gained?

i know, its hard to beleive sometimes but considering the fact that his conditioning was top notch this year(even better than last year) and he came in 25lbs heavier one would have to assum thats lean mass.....
you can check all the olympia reports,theyre all stating that ronnie gained that much since last year

[dave22]

Originally posted by Mighty Mikey G
Than the other 19 lbs that he gained was fat? Didn't Cormier say something about steak and muscle at the Olympia?

Maybe it was water, even Lee Haney himself said that he was lucky to gain a pound of pure muscle a year.

Like when someone says that they did a cycle of 1-AD stacked with 4-AD, and gained 12 pounds of muscle. They didn't, they might have gained a pound of muscle, and the rest could be water and fat.

But Ronnie didn't gain 25 pounds of muscle for this olympia. Even Cormier said that he didn't. He probably gained like 6 pounds top.

[ToxicCorpse]

I just checked out the comparison pics on flexonline.com. Looks like Jay should have won...

[fupafighter2]

i ll give jay the size edge but dex was diced....his bak looks way more mature than jays... dex obviously has a prettier physique... jay is a ****ty poser and probably lost in the later rounds

[RealDeal2099]

Originally posted by dave22
Is this the end for Cutler?

Hardly, Jay entered EIGHT pro shows in one year, winning five of them and placing second at the other three, two of which included Ronnie Coleman. Seldom do any of the bigger guys compete in as many shows, and no one I can think of has a better track record for this year. Peace!

[Mark21087]

Ronnie was 270 at last years GNC Show where he was holding alot of water, and he was 293 at the Olympia night show, so you figure it out.

As for Cutler gaining that much mass, he himself said that it would be ver hard for him to gain over 3 lbs. now.

[stever]

In the future watch out for Mark Ruhl(wide body), Kevin Levorne(cut up), and my boy King Kamali if he can get it together. Thats just my opinion also who's looking good is richard jones, he's on the cover on this months flex.

[soleus]

Originally posted by stever
In the future watch out for Mark Ruhl(wide body), Kevin Levorne(cut up), and my boy King Kamali if he can get it together. Thats just my opinion also who's looking good is richard jones, he's on the cover on this months flex.

In the future look out for these guys who are present and future...Dexter, Jay, Dennis James, and Cormier (if he too can get it together)

Markus is a big boy, but he has to get away from the Blocky look if he wants to win the O.
Levrone (who is 38) doesnt have much time left and will probably retire soon.

[RealDeal2099]

Originally posted by soleus
Levrone (who is 38) doesnt have much time left and will probably retire soon.

Bump, Kevin is truly the last of the old guard, the guys who used to stay toe to toe with Dorian and give him a run for his money...I'm talking about Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Nasser el Sonbaty, etc...all who are more or less done competing now. Levrone still has one hell of a physique, and just placed third at the 2003 Show of Strength, but his likelihood of taking the Olympia now is slight. Peace!

[GettnHuge]

coleman is definitely a LOT, probably 20lbs, bigger this year.
coleman 2002

[GettnHuge]

2003

[reanimator485]

God ronnies physique is just disgusting. His time is running out. Sooner or later, hes gonna just drop dead from all the roids. I dont see how anyone can abuse steroids so much and still be alive. I hope hes enjoying his run because it will end, one way or another. You know the old saying about drugs: the faster you gain it when youre on, the faster you loose it when youre off...