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    Protein need

    Hi guys,

    First time reader, long term disappointment here. After years of eating, drinking and generally ****ing my life up, I've decided to sort myself out. I've been off the booze for 4 weeks and the weight is coming off.

    So I've started lifting weights and I'm loving it. But, I have a question around Protein requirements.

    I'm a big guy, and everything I read says I need to be eating around 1g per lb of body weight. Now, I get that when you're lean and have hungry muscles. But I'm not lean. About 40% of my weight is disgusting fat that I want to lose.

    Do I still shoot for 1g per lb? Or is that overkill like I suspect it is?

    Thanks,
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    yeah it is overkill, 150 grams of protein is plenty and i'd say 120 is enough too
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    1 gram per lb LEAN bodyweight. Most big guys think they have way more muscle mass than they actually do... anything over 100 is a good place for most average joe trainers.
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    Jorn Trommelen, PhD recommends 160 grams of protein per day, across four meals, for those seeking the best results. Recommendations by Eric Helms, PhD go up to 0.8-1 grams per pound of bodyweight for building muscle. For most purposes, 120g-160g per day is a very good place to start, with room to add more if you want. The maximum that research has shown to be beneficial for muscle growth is 0.82g/lb, but there’s no danger or waste in going above that (as long as you don’t eat only protein).

    It's about lean body mass, regarding gs of protein/weight in lbs. Your muscles and bones use that protein, your fat doesnt.


    If you're say, 18% BF and 80kg, and you want to bulk up 145g of protein would be ideal. Less protein would mean a longer recovery and the bulk taking longer. I personally eat 200+g of protein just because it's been a habit for so long.
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    Congrats on the positive changes! For protein intake, aim for 0.8-1g per pound of lean body mass, not total weight. This way, you support muscle growth while cutting fat. Focus on nutrient-dense foods and adjust as needed. Keep up the great work!
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    In your case, focusing on protein intake can still be beneficial for weight loss and muscle growth. You may not need to go as high as 1g per lb, but aim for at least 0.8g per lb to support your goals. Keep up the great work!
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    Originally Posted by TheWobbler View Post
    Hi guys,

    First time reader, long term disappointment here. After years of eating, drinking and generally ****ing my life up, I've decided to sort myself out. I've been off the booze for 4 weeks and the weight is coming off.

    So I've started lifting weights and I'm loving it. But, I have a question around Protein requirements.

    I'm a big guy, and everything I read says I need to be eating around 1g per lb of body weight. Now, I get that when you're lean and have hungry muscles. But I'm not lean. About 40% of my weight is disgusting fat that I want to lose.

    Do I still shoot for 1g per lb? Or is that overkill like I suspect it is?

    Thanks,
    Not overkill, John Meadows recommends it.
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    Originally Posted by TheWobbler View Post
    Hi guys,

    First time reader, long term disappointment here. After years of eating, drinking and generally ****ing my life up, I've decided to sort myself out. I've been off the booze for 4 weeks and the weight is coming off.

    So I've started lifting weights and I'm loving it. But, I have a question around Protein requirements.

    I'm a big guy, and everything I read says I need to be eating around 1g per lb of body weight. Now, I get that when you're lean and have hungry muscles. But I'm not lean. About 40% of my weight is disgusting fat that I want to lose.

    Do I still shoot for 1g per lb? Or is that overkill like I suspect it is?

    Thanks,
    Especially not overkill when cutting
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    Originally Posted by TheWobbler View Post
    Hi guys,

    First time reader, long term disappointment here. After years of eating, drinking and generally ****ing my life up, I've decided to sort myself out. I've been off the booze for 4 weeks and the weight is coming off.

    So I've started lifting weights and I'm loving it. But, I have a question around Protein requirements.

    I'm a big guy, and everything I read says I need to be eating around 1g per lb of body weight. Now, I get that when you're lean and have hungry muscles. But I'm not lean. About 40% of my weight is disgusting fat that I want to lose.

    Do I still shoot for 1g per lb? Or is that overkill like I suspect it is?

    Thanks,
    .7 grams per pound bodyweight of animal protein when bulking should be ok though.
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    Originally Posted by TheWobbler View Post
    Hi guys,

    First time reader, long term disappointment here. After years of eating, drinking and generally ****ing my life up, I've decided to sort myself out. I've been off the booze for 4 weeks and the weight is coming off.

    So I've started lifting weights and I'm loving it. But, I have a question around Protein requirements.

    I'm a big guy, and everything I read says I need to be eating around 1g per lb of body weight. Now, I get that when you're lean and have hungry muscles. But I'm not lean. About 40% of my weight is disgusting fat that I want to lose.

    Do I still shoot for 1g per lb? Or is that overkill like I suspect it is?

    Thanks,
    I also aim for 2.5g leucine according to many recommendations (e.g. Jeff Nippard). Often .7 grams per pound bodyweight isn't enough to meet that threshold.
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